CMS best performing cement company in malaysia. east malaysia all buy from him no competition.
CIMA not doing very good i heard.
Malayan cement no comments
🧱【Top 6】Cement Companies in Malaysia 🇲🇾
🧱【Top 6】Cement Companies in Malaysia 🇲🇾
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CMS best performing cement company in malaysia. east malaysia all buy from him no competition.
CIMA not doing very good i heard. Malayan cement no comments |
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Mar 6 2021, 08:52 AM
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QUOTE(Mike3 @ Mar 6 2021, 08:50 AM) CMS best performing cement company in malaysia. east malaysia all buy from him no competition. How about hong leong and ytl one??CIMA not doing very good i heard. Malayan cement no comments 5)CEMENT INDUSTRIES (SABAH) SDN BHD (CIS) Head Office Address : Sepangar Plant Sepangar Industrial Estate, Menggatal 30KM North of Kota Kinabalu P.O. Box 13525, 88839 Kota Kinabalu Sabah, Malaysia How about this sabah company??? Sabah people also buy from cahya mata sarawak bhd? This post has been edited by plouffle0789: Mar 6 2021, 08:53 AM |
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Mar 6 2021, 08:55 AM
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Mar 6 2021, 08:58 AM
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No wonder my site having problem acquiring cement for screeding..... Damn u cartel !
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Mar 6 2021, 08:59 AM
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not my problem. i just sell neck pillow
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Mar 6 2021, 09:00 AM
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why need so many cement companies
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Mar 6 2021, 09:01 AM
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[quote=plouffle0789,Mar 6 2021, 08:55 AM]
[quote=Angelic Layer,Mar 6 2021, 08:45 AM] Cement is not an issue, can import as well when price is too high. The problem is always sand aggregate. Do you means this?? Cement very cheap at malaysia What brand they brought from foreign company? [/quote] Because you need to use river sand for aggregate, if you salt water sand the concrete will crack. Lousy or songlap contractor will use "washed" sea water sand, but it is never clean, that's why you see a lot of building with crack or compromised concrete. Malaysia all river sand kena exploited and sell either to Singapore or China company. |
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Mar 6 2021, 09:02 AM
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Mar 6 2021, 09:04 AM
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Mar 6 2021, 08:52 AM) How about hong leong and ytl one?? hong leong is consolidating its operation last i heard. 5)CEMENT INDUSTRIES (SABAH) SDN BHD (CIS) Head Office Address : Sepangar Plant Sepangar Industrial Estate, Menggatal 30KM North of Kota Kinabalu P.O. Box 13525, 88839 Kota Kinabalu Sabah, Malaysia How about this sabah company??? Sabah people also buy from cahya mata sarawak bhd? between hume cement and tasek cement. previously same owner different management. Ytl together with malayan cement is the largest cement producer in malaysia followed by hongleong (tasek and hume) then cima. For CIS, i did simple googling . i never heard before so i never comment just now. they are partial own by tasek, gov and state gov. from what i see they are just grinding plant. not integrated plant. they still need to buy clinker (material for cement production) from other parties. CMS on the other hand is integrated plant. meaning they produce cement from raw material (limestone and clay) YTL,Malayan,hume, tasek and cima is also integrated plant. |
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Mar 6 2021, 09:07 AM
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QUOTE(Angelic Layer @ Mar 6 2021, 08:45 AM) Cement is not an issue, can import as well when price is too high. dont think cement is imported in west malaysia. not sure about east tho.The problem is always sand aggregate. i heard CMS business is so good that during long maintenance they buy from west malaysia as well to sustain the consumption. producing will be cheaper unless in countries like myanmar. even if import/export they usually do clinker . they will still need to grind at the respective places to produce cement. Edit: if im not mistaken , clinker from japan abit cheaper as in japan cement is usually the byproduct. they actually use the cement kiln to burn of waste( something like alam flora). they earn money from the waste disposal. clinker they jsut sell off as a byproduct to earn more money. not sure about the quality tho. This post has been edited by Mike3: Mar 6 2021, 09:08 AM |
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Mar 6 2021, 09:25 AM
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QUOTE(Mike3 @ Mar 6 2021, 09:07 AM) dont think cement is imported in west malaysia. not sure about east tho. Yes, you mean fly ash.i heard CMS business is so good that during long maintenance they buy from west malaysia as well to sustain the consumption. producing will be cheaper unless in countries like myanmar. even if import/export they usually do clinker . they will still need to grind at the respective places to produce cement. Edit: if im not mistaken , clinker from japan abit cheaper as in japan cement is usually the byproduct. they actually use the cement kiln to burn of waste( something like alam flora). they earn money from the waste disposal. clinker they jsut sell off as a byproduct to earn more money. not sure about the quality tho. I am not familiar with commercial construction here, but residential wise people uses steel frame mostly for new build modern house, either panel based construction or light weight foam concrete, so there isn't much use for fly ash but for maybe commercial buildings. I have heard that volcanic ash is even better, but so far I never heard it being used in Japan, there is a pioneering company into this I read in the book "Concrete planet" and was surprised it was actually a German company based in Malaysia! |
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Mar 6 2021, 11:40 AM
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QUOTE(Angelic Layer @ Mar 6 2021, 09:25 AM) Yes, you mean fly ash. there is special cement called fly ash cement. some grinding plant use it. meaning they buy those fly ash from power plant then mix with with clinker at a certain ratio to produce fly ash cement.I am not familiar with commercial construction here, but residential wise people uses steel frame mostly for new build modern house, either panel based construction or light weight foam concrete, so there isn't much use for fly ash but for maybe commercial buildings. I have heard that volcanic ash is even better, but so far I never heard it being used in Japan, there is a pioneering company into this I read in the book "Concrete planet" and was surprised it was actually a German company based in Malaysia! i remember it has a longer curing time but less heat during curing so we can cast at bigger block size without cracking (i hear before as one of building uses it) im not involved in construction. |
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Mar 6 2021, 11:51 AM
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QUOTE(Mike3 @ Mar 6 2021, 11:40 AM) there is special cement called fly ash cement. some grinding plant use it. meaning they buy those fly ash from power plant then mix with with clinker at a certain ratio to produce fly ash cement. It probably has more use in prefab than on site construction in Malaysia.i remember it has a longer curing time but less heat during curing so we can cast at bigger block size without cracking (i hear before as one of building uses it) im not involved in construction. Malaysia still relied on poured on mold concrete while overseas uses foam concrete (I just learnt that it uses fly ash mixture as well) when it is strong enough for residential. In fact foam concrete will be cooler for Malaysia weather, I wondered why constructor/developer isn't more open minded to developments. |
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QUOTE(Angelic Layer @ Mar 6 2021, 09:01 AM) Because you need to use river sand for aggregate, if you salt water sand the concrete will crack. Whoa. I didnt know different sand will cause these problems in concrete. lol. So for plastering new wall, sand also plays a factor in it? Because I have seen new wall plastered and within months crack again.. :\Lousy or songlap contractor will use "washed" sea water sand, but it is never clean, that's why you see a lot of building with crack or compromised concrete. Malaysia all river sand kena exploited and sell either to Singapore or China company. |
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Mar 6 2021, 12:02 PM
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QUOTE(Angelic Layer @ Mar 6 2021, 11:51 AM) It probably has more use in prefab than on site construction in Malaysia. A lot of bosses dont want to try newer technology.Malaysia still relied on poured on mold concrete while overseas uses foam concrete (I just learnt that it uses fly ash mixture as well) when it is strong enough for residential. In fact foam concrete will be cooler for Malaysia weather, I wondered why constructor/developer isn't more open minded to developments. first is cost . second is , if its aint broken why fix it mentallity. |
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Mar 6 2021, 12:18 PM
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all crony companies
esp ceemmmssss |
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Mar 6 2021, 07:09 PM
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QUOTE(bobowyc @ Mar 6 2021, 11:57 AM) Whoa. I didnt know different sand will cause these problems in concrete. lol. So for plastering new wall, sand also plays a factor in it? Because I have seen new wall plastered and within months crack again.. :\ No problem with plastering, maybe they are only shrinkage crack, not structural unlike concrete.That's why Cantonese say shoddy construction as "ham shui lou" - salt water building - earlier cases uses salt water sand as aggregate, not only concrete crack, the steel bar inside also corroded. |
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QUOTE(Angelic Layer @ Mar 6 2021, 07:09 PM) No problem with plastering, maybe they are only shrinkage crack, not structural unlike concrete. Are you in construction line????That's why Cantonese say shoddy construction as "ham shui lou" - salt water building - earlier cases uses salt water sand as aggregate, not only concrete crack, the steel bar inside also corroded. |
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gg. Ini tered basically TS knows nothing about the industry. lol
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