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post Mar 3 2021, 11:37 AM

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Clearly its a mobo fault. I assume you didn't perform any undervolt or overclock activity right?
The nb still under warranty right? In that case just insist on warranty. Keep in mind warranty is not an one to one exchange.
Did they provide any prove of no fault found from their end to refuse warranty?
I please tell me you did not play on bed or turn down fan speed while under load.
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post Mar 3 2021, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(Gentleman_League @ Mar 3 2021, 10:18 AM)
I've tried requesting from them, they dont allowed it. They kept insisting my graphic card is fine after few diagnose.cry.gif

They kepy doing the same thing when i send it in, but problems came back after weeks!
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Did they provide any screen shot? If it has no problem on their side, is there any thing might be wrong on your side? Have you check during problem if the power adapter is plug in and has power? Did you use external monitor to confirm and did the issue only happen with external monitor?
Refusing warranty is not a small thing for me. So it is likely their tech is being honest with you.
If you have any screen shot, I recommend you to provide it to them and insist on warranty regardless of their diagnostic conclusion. But keep in mind warranty is not an one to one, so adjust your expectation.
If you have a second screen, I recommend to open a monitoring software during load such as hwmonitor to see if it overheat. Also disable auto restarts in advance system properties so that you can see the error code if any. Capture any prove on your side and you should be able to ask for a warranty. Provided you can wait. One to one after 5 months is not likely going to happen.

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post Mar 3 2021, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(Coldf3ar @ Mar 3 2021, 11:58 AM)
thats the thing. he buy from illegear. illegear is the one who build the laptop. not others. thats mean they have to replace it by their cost. so now die die dunwan  responsible
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Warranty might not equals to a replacement. However, I would encourage ts to insists on warranty from the retailer.
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post Mar 3 2021, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(kopitiamtard @ Mar 3 2021, 12:08 PM)
Read all the posts.... wow what a shitty company.
Thanks for the info, time to avoid "boutique" companies like this...

Actually, this type of company have very small modal only, they roll based on customer orders... when customer orders dries up (MCO), they will have cash flow problems...

This type of company need to die.
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Have you read through any of the Asus, msi, global brand forums lol. What you expect from a local company that did not manufacture anything that they sell while even the international brands have so many complains.
I believe everything on the market has its purpose and reason to be there. One needs to understand what ones buy and what to expect.
I personally would not buy from these local brand. Didnt even know pc shops have boutique style retail before this.
Why ts don't buy from lowyat retailers? Sure they have complains too, but at least its cheaper right?


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post Mar 3 2021, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(Gentleman_League @ Mar 3 2021, 12:15 PM)
They did take picture while running on high graphic games / anything could possible running the GPU. Just that the problem did not came out on the spot, it came back after it send back to me.

I record everything with my phone every time the problem occur, i had plenty of videos i can send it to you if u want.
Blackscreen, GPU not detected etc.

Im not a hardcore user, just work and light gaming. Im just connecting my laptop to a 29inc samsung monitor ntg more.
what possibly would go wrong at my end.
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Like I mentioned, have you check if adapter has power? Can you confirm if the issue only happen when the screen is connected? Also try to use hwmonitor to see if it overheats.
It is likely that the tech on their side is honest with you if they have picture to prove its no fault found on their end.
So if you have concluded that it is surely not your end problem, just formally submit your pictures and insists on warranty from them provided that you did not insists them to give you a new one on the spot.
For me, if you have picture of no nvidia in device manager, it should be enough to ask for warranty. Unless your nb is those type that has detactable gpu.
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post Mar 3 2021, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(Ichibanichi @ Mar 3 2021, 12:22 PM)
haiz....
based on TS post, he/she is not computer savvy.
All he/she want is that nVidia GPU is doing the graphic processing work instead off CPU internal GPU.
TS already given the seller sufficient time to resolve this issue but the problem still occur.
This mean seller side is not doing the warranty claim professionally.
Why TS need to take the liability to push hard his/her claim?
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Usually the dispute starts when customer ask for one to one on the spot. Warranty does not warrants an one to one in most cases in computer. Just a guess on my part. Otherwise, I do think ts should push for warranty.
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post Mar 3 2021, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(Gentleman_League @ Mar 3 2021, 10:23 AM)
I HDMI-ed my laptop to a monitor which i need Graphic driver to do that, intel graphics cant. They dont provide door to door service, i need to courier it in every time when i had problems  cry.gif

Not sure i could reveal the brand name in here, would i get into trouble?
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If you have prove of fault, and they refuse warranty, I guess its only fair to disclose their name. But I suggest to only do it after you have aquire all services from them. You know what they say about annoying the people who handles your food right? lol
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post Mar 3 2021, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(Gentleman_League @ Mar 3 2021, 12:34 PM)
not gonna push around for warranty anymore, since the had declined my 1.1 exchange or refund. i will just stand my right to lodge a report.
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1 to 1 or refund after 5 months... hmm, seems unlikely. You know nuclear buttons are often a mutual thing right?
Since you mentioned they have prove the nb is OK to you before, maybe better to check again or send to a different shop for a second opinion. Even if you do want to push the nuclear button, do it with as much data on your hand as possible instead of acting on an emotional note.
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post Mar 3 2021, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(chinti @ Mar 3 2021, 10:59 AM)
how is tht fine when the problem still there?
they hire SPM grad as their IT technician ke?
u need to stand ur ground man, dun get push around
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Who in the right mind that has a degree want to work as a low pay tech lol. Of course techs in retail level are spm grads lar.
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post Mar 3 2021, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(Wazzzap @ Mar 3 2021, 11:00 AM)
I also have a similar experience, can't detect GPU and they say my Motherboard faulty, can't be fixed better to buy a new one.

But I wasn't satisfied with their service so I went to a specialist and they say it's not a Motherboard problem but it's the GPU. So he got it fixed and no problem now.

Never going to buy from this shitty company again. After-sales service is rubbish. They even charge for checking after the warranty period.
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Hmm, most nb gpu is soldered on to mobo, so its technically not wrong for the tech to say its mobo fault, unless its those detachable one.
And most retail shop tech operate on board level instead of component or circuit level. Means if gpu on mobo fault, they swap the mobo.
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post Mar 3 2021, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(Coldf3ar @ Mar 3 2021, 12:25 PM)
they still need to replace faulty part/pcs. its still a cost to them.
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Other than labor, I would think the cost is bear by supplier or manufacturer. They just have to claim it from their supplier, so I don't see why they would refuse a warranty unless ts ask for one to one on the spot.
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post Mar 3 2021, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(Gentleman_League @ Mar 3 2021, 12:30 PM)
When i was switching BIOS which is only running on GPU only, i did consult ILLEGEAR they said its not recommended it but they did not tell me why.  I suppose because it will running in backscene that's why they don't recommended it? im not sure im not really a tech guy, i just follow what instruction they had gave me and google information i could gather, that's it.

Power adapters are running fine, my monitor and laptop are newly bought just by the same time when my laptop arrived. i even changed my HDMI cable, change anything i could possibly do on my side.
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For a gaming nb that has dual gpu, intel and nvidia, you should not need to manually switch it for it to work. Even if you can fix it by manually switch it in bios to nvidia only mode, it means something is wrong already.
I recommend you to just submit all your picture to them and formally ask for a warranty from supplier or manufacturer side. Sau that you insists on warranty even their side has no fault found. Just give them time to arrange replacement of the mobo if your gpu is not detachable one.
Since you have already spend so much time, I guess its just right if you push the nuclear button on this one. But do make sure there is nothing else you want from them, or other things that still can be bring to bear to resolve it.
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post Mar 3 2021, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(Eulm585 @ Mar 3 2021, 12:49 PM)
Don't send to other shop please. Later they got even more reason to reject warranty. Just keep sending them the laptop for warranty. After few times tell them your shit giving me too much problem change 1 to 1
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Can one. Ask the shop to run diagnostic and temperature monitoring. Diagnostic can be perform without opening the nb. They dont even need to do very detail work, ts intention now is to push the nuclear button, so ts just need a diagnostic service receipt to help prove his case.
Also if another shop cannot find fault, then it could be the fault is on ts side. Which can help to narrow down the source of the issue.
Ultimately, I think the shop should at least try to send for warranty on their side before it comes to this...
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post Mar 3 2021, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(Gentleman_League @ Mar 3 2021, 01:03 PM)
so am i allowed to seek for second opinion? previous post that mentioned warranty will be void and they will blame it back at me.

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Tribunal will still proceed.
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It is always ok to get as much information as you can before making a decision, just ask the shop to run diagnostic test to check if it is OK or not without opening the nb.
Most shop would run typical diagnostic without plug in a second screen. Ask them to plug in a second screen, have hwmonitor and other monitoring software to diagnos. And provide print screen of test result. Could be done in a few hours, also you might want them to run it overnight. If problem didn't occur.

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post Mar 3 2021, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(Gentleman_League @ Mar 3 2021, 01:12 PM)
Ive texted Illegear this morning, still waiting for reply.  icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif
Updated: 3/3 1.00pm

I get a reply from Illegear, they request me to send in again for diagnose.

And they will cover warranty for me this time, what if they still never find out the problem after DDU the driver? i will back to square one?
oh and this time i have to bare the shipping cost.  unsure.gif
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If still possible at this point, insists on a new mobo form them.
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post Mar 9 2021, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(ZzZzCcCc @ Mar 8 2021, 08:12 PM)
Be careful when u buy dell laptop , my fren new laptop bluescreen , RMA dell change all hardware from mobo till screen canot find out what problem thn replace NEW model bluescreen again , replace all hardware aso till canot fix bluescreen . 100% is NVME problem , if got option choose SSD instead of nvme . I had 10 PC 8 out of 10 nvme overheat and some cant detect in less thn a yr , the nvme controller is the culprit .
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I have diagnos my fare share of nvme issue. Soeed is faster, but heat is not better. Also given the location of the nvme port are mostly near heat sink or gpu, better use sata ssd, not that the speed is noticeable in real world usage.
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post Aug 26 2021, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(Gentleman_League @ Aug 26 2021, 10:39 AM)
Hi Guys, recently my RAM kept spiking to 90% USAGE and i tried google some solution it reduces alot (Approx 40-50% usage) but it spike to 90% after a week. Im running on 16GB, and did some browsing (Google Chrome) and android emulator only.

Should i upgrade to 32GB or my RAM is faulty?
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Use edge jer lar.

 

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