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post Mar 3 2021, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(Gentleman_League @ Mar 3 2021, 10:21 AM)
I request for an 1 to 1 exchange since its new, they insist . They kept saying my graphic cards runs perfectly (after cleaning / reinstall my driver). They cant even explain to me what is going on, they just kept repeating doing the samething when i had my laptop sent in.
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At this rate I think it's better you file a complaint to https://e-aduan.kpdnhep.gov.my/ since the shop is stress testing you.


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post Mar 3 2021, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(Gentleman_League @ Mar 3 2021, 10:29 AM)
Im not a person like to create these kind of chaos, i just want my laptop to be fixed  sad.gif
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It's not about chaos but your rights as a consumer. If they feel that you're a pushover who won't take harsh action, why bother resolving your issue. Once the warranty period ends, they'll be singing a different tune.

Also suggest you keep records of your communication with them including those in the thread which they have closed in the notebook section. Take screenshots in case posts goes missing as they have in the past.

It's your laptop, your money, your call.
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post Mar 3 2021, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(Gentleman_League @ Mar 3 2021, 10:42 AM)
Tried everything, ask for refund ask for 1 to 1 exchange (no avail)

they insist on my Laptop had issue

this is what they replied me since the last time i had send in rclxub.gif

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Bro, you quoted me but what I advised you to do, you were reluctant to do cos you said you didn't want to "cause chaos". So you haven't tried everything.

I'm also not the only one here suggesting you to go pursue your consumer rights. Since the shop is not responsive and you are stuck with something you paid for already and can't use, what have you got to lose?
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post Mar 3 2021, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(DValentine @ Mar 3 2021, 11:55 AM)
but now leloumo also haram la the delivery date

u customize all and see the date

wadapaq haram 8 weeks laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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Reminds me of what happened in the company's main thread last year. So it was kind of the peak of stress test-gate and one of their fanboys posted the lenovo estimated delivery period as sometime this year. So it was about 6 months wait and they were making fun of Lenovo. So I replied that hey that's the difference between a company behaving responsibly and providing realistic delivery times compared to one that promises you a short delivery but then delays on you over and over again.

That reply disappeared not long after it was posted but the post making fun of Lenovo stayed. I thought it was that thread's TS working his magic so I ignored it. In Dec, another one of my posts went missing and this time I tilted and called them out. Turns out it was a staff who had deleted my comment and he restored my comment back saying it was deleted because it was an unrelated personal opinion. Mind you, we were discussing the company's business practices and customer service at the time.

So it got me thinking about that Lenovo comment way back when, if my comment was deleted because it was an unrelated personal opinion (I'm guessing here since I wasn't given an explanation), why was the post making fun of Lenovo not deleted at the same time?


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post Mar 3 2021, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(amir.asyraf @ Mar 3 2021, 12:49 PM)
no, why would they? Illegear don't own lowyat.net
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Some staff behave like they do. See my reply above. By staff I mean forum staff tag.

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post Mar 3 2021, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(Gentleman_League @ Mar 3 2021, 04:54 PM)
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wooiii dont report first, wait till my case is solved  icon_question.gif

since my post kena deleted at notebook section, so let me post here ask for k/ help.

dont nuke my post.. sad.gif
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Wait what? Your post about notebook got deleted in the notebook section?
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post Mar 3 2021, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(Gentleman_League @ Mar 3 2021, 05:07 PM)
dont report me leh, just wanna get my laptop fixed  mega_shok.gif
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Tell us about the deleted post of yours in the Notebook section.
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post Mar 3 2021, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(Gentleman_League @ Mar 3 2021, 05:13 PM)
Post 270 page 14 bro.
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Ok that's the content. Did you start a new thread and it got deleted or did you reply to an existing thread?

Did it just go missing or did you get a message from moderator/staff saying why it was deleted?
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post Mar 3 2021, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(AZIM@ILLEGEAR @ Mar 3 2021, 05:24 PM)
Hi Kopitiam,

We wish to clarify a few things:

1. We are happy to help Gentleman_League with this issue and are ready to help him with this RMA as soon as we receive it. He messaged us on WhatsApp at 12.52PM today asking for help, and we replied him at 1.12pm (today is our off day).

2. We have not rejected any RMA claim from Gentleman_League, and we would never reject warranty claims from customers if the product is still within warranty period.

3. Gentleman_League only has carry-in warranty which means he is responsible for sending in the laptop to us for diagnosis and warranty claim. However, for the first 2 times he sent in his laptop regarding the Nvidia RTX 2060 GPU suspected of being faulty, we provided free return shipping to him as a courtesy, and we have always done our best to help him resolve any issue with the laptop.

4. Gentleman_League has sent in his laptop to us for 3 times only, and not 4-5 times as he has mentioned. The first time he sent in to us, was because his Samsung 1TB PM981a NVMe SSD was not detected and we replaced it immediately upon receiving and sent back the laptop to his Penang address free of charge. We received his laptop on 11 November 2020 and the RMA was completed on 13 November 2020.

5. On 11th December, Gentleman_League notified us he had no display on his external monitor. We informed him to send in for diagnosis, as we suspected the Nvidia GPU/drivers had issue because it is directly connected to the external display output. We informed Gentleman_League that we needed to check and verify the Nvidia GPU was at fault, and if it was, we would replace a new unit for him.

6. We received the laptop on 15th December and used DDU to do a clean install of the Nvidia graphics drivers. Everything worked without issue, and we sent him a video of The Witcher 3 running smoothly at maximum settings. Therefore, we could not provide him with a new unit replacement. We tested the most demanding/modern games like Shadow of the Tomb Raider at highest settings, running overnight and there was no issue found for 4 days in a row. The laptop was sent back to him on 21/12/2020 before Christmas.

7. Everything was working well, until 11th January, Gentleman_League contacted us that the Nvidia GPU was not detected. We advised him to do a clean install of the Nvidia drivers using DDU and if the issue persisted, to send in to us for checking. We arranged for Gdex to pickup the laptop and received it on 22 January.

8. We reset his BIOS settings to default (since he set the laptop to run on dGPU). We also did a clean install of the Nvidia drivers using DDU. Again, we found that everything worked without issue, modern titles and demanding games were running smoothly with high FPS. We sent him a photo of Shadow of the Tomb Raider running at the highest settings as proof. We performed a reformat as well to make sure there was no software issue/conflicts, and tested the laptop over the entire weekend with no issues found. We shipped back the laptop to his address on 25th Jan.

Finally, we wish to reiterate that we are prepared to help Gentleman_League, and only require Gentleman_League to send in this laptop to us so we can begin the RMA process. Hope this clarifies the situation.
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So if you do the driver reinstall and everything works, will you do a root cause analysis to find out what went wrong? A recurring problem is not going to go away unless you fix the underlying issue. Will you check the hardware for defects or whether it is user induced software issue? Will you explain why a laptop that has a discrete GPU cannot run under dGPU setting?

If in fact it was a user issue, will you educate the user on how to install the drivers without an ALL FUCKING CAPS message or a "How I know I'm not the user" type of reply?

And why is it that despite the rigorous stress tests, there are so many issues being reported and not just by this one user?

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post Mar 3 2021, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(Gentleman_League @ Mar 3 2021, 05:55 PM)
Here's is the one to one replacement i was 'told' by illegear

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It doesn't say the replacement was done though. It just said was requested. Since the tests came back ok, I don't think it was done, otherwise it would have been in the next column.
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post Mar 8 2021, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(damnguy36 @ Mar 8 2021, 09:48 AM)
no far no issue for me, the support forum every brand also u will feel scary, ppl troll more than kopitiam biggrin.gif
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haha naturally in support forums you'd hear more negative stuff than positive since laptops are supposed to work. So there's nothing to say if if works as designed.

Curious though, have any of them complained the tech support taichi-ing back saying rudely it's a user error or replying in all CAPS?

Personally I dealt with Dell support twice, once out of warranty I broke the heatsink fan in my laptop and another my ex-gf's display went blank. Pleasant experience dealing with them even during the incident with my ex-gf's laptop where she was in her hometown without reliable phone line to do the self diagnostic.
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post Mar 10 2021, 02:27 PM

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Congrats! It's a tentative win for now until you can confirm it with your inspection and stress test.
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post Mar 11 2021, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(teamjoker @ Mar 11 2021, 11:16 AM)
Kat Sana tu thread dah kena tutup. Owner yang tutup. Tatau siapa la owner tu.
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Dah la orang tu ada kabel dengan red tag. Kalau ada komen tak sedap tu kena hilangkan pulak.
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post Mar 11 2021, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(chinti @ Mar 11 2021, 11:22 AM)
paise im blur today, u seriously dunno who the owner is? its Prince Joker
yang mana? u mean tht Lacus Sama?
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If you know you know whistling.gif
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post Mar 15 2021, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(Gentleman_League @ Mar 15 2021, 10:55 AM)
Hello k/, sorry for the late update was very busy throughout the weekend. I received my Laptop on Friday noon, i mange to tried it on the Saturday morning. It took me awhile for setting it up, and tried to run some games as well..

So far it runs perfectly, with my external monitor connected but too bad my monitor would only support 144Hz, cant manage to try 240Hz but anyhow i don't see any differences but its ok that's not the main concern. Hopefully my voyage will be much smoother compare with my previous experience!

Thanks k/ for such amazing response and opinion, helping me out the whole process. Much love, till then!

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Aight keep using it and keep us posted. All the best.
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post Mar 18 2021, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(Gentleman_League @ Mar 18 2021, 12:07 PM)
Hello an update for you guys, just received text from ILLEGEAR yesterday.

Based on the SC said, the warranty period is based on invoice which i believed is Date of Purchase not Date of RMA unit ya.
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yeah this is normal.
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post Mar 29 2021, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(megadisc @ Mar 29 2021, 02:46 PM)
yeah was planning to stick to dell since they support me when overseas

an wanted the amd and 3060 config too ...

does lieelager have it ?
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Dell warranty is only in the APAC region if I'm not mistaken. Not worldwide.

 

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