Hey guys,

need some recommendation between this 2 wellknown brands. Planning to get the R32 version. I know Daikin is more famous and widely use but recently i heard Gree is doing pretty damn well for its price point. I need to fit in 9 units in my house. So should i go for only 1 of this brand or maybe i should mix around?

any current user here care to share their input on this?

thanks everyone

edited infos:

after some reading, im now also considering acson brand as well. here are the models that fit into my budget. any input on them?










This post has been edited by hasyir: Mar 2 2021, 07:50 PM

GREE is just shit china brand. Get Daikin

Gree is china biggest

Had experience with Daikin and still using it (already 7th year)
Parts are hard to get (if required).

Gree; do not have any idea (good or bad)

Daikin for me a good brand, but why limted to these two brands only?

Panasonic, York are also good.
Acson (cheaper version of York) also a good option for less.

carrier man can

Acson=Daikin. If Acson is cheaper than Daikin, get Acson.

Inverter or conventional? If inverter just get Midea.

Daikin = York
Since 2014. Daikin took over York.

daikin/panasonic.

personally i like the old york before take over by daikin. sejuk woi and long lasting.

my father-in-law kena con by aircon repair man previously. he said my FIL acson AC expensive to repair so he suggest to just replace with a different 2nd hand unit. my FIL thought he replace with acson as well and just trust the guy. when my brother-in-law came to visit he noticed its not Acson, instead its Gree brand. by then too late to ask for refund dy coz it had been a few weeks dy.

that gree was old model so i dont know if gree has improved since then. but the gree was a LOT louder than the acson and rough. the remote very difficult to understand. not intuitive at all. cooling wise was roughly the same. but too loud, how to sleep?

luckily it was in the spare bedroom so its only used when guests/family stay over.

Gree..

they just put one angmoh named Stacey there only

and put base in NZ

I don't think Daikin is York, Daikin Industries is not Johnson Controls (York)

I may be wrong, do correct me if I am.

They are more or less the same fundamentally.

I have seen Midea and Hisense. Never seen Gree in any house

Daikin lo apa lagi

Sorry that happened to your FIL.
My AC guy, says that Acson and York are easily fixed & parts are easy to get. I do not know it cost a lot for repair (probably depends on what needs to be repaired/replaced)
Anyways, if you need my AC guy number (Gombak, KL coverage), I can share his contact...good to have some comparison among different service contractors...

After a couple years, my Daikin AC became far less sejuk.

Yes got regular servis

Daikin la. Now got promo 1 year extra warranty for general.

Gree no comment, it might be good. The thing about China electronics is high power consumption.

Better go for popular brand like Daikin/Panasonic since easy and cheap to get spare part.

guys , if pasang aircond , on 8 hours a day agak agak bill naik how much ?

This post has been edited by harriss: Mar 2 2021, 11:13 AM

>9000

too much variables. Need to see ac berapa hp, the energy saving stars etc.

Gree or Midea is fine for the budget minded, it will serve its intended purpose. Just remember to always service them at least once every six (6) months.
I have leak coil issues with york, daikin, panasonic & midea.
Components is more or less just that popular brands like pana will be easier to source out for spare parts.

This post has been edited by feekle: Mar 2 2021, 11:18 AM

Outdoor temp vs indoor set temp
Insulation of the location
Distance between indoor and outdoor unit
Number of people or items producing heat
Etc
Etc

am using gree.

besides the ridiculously cheap pricepoint, i'd got no negative comments.
sound wise i agree that it may seems louder than others. the wind sound but it's tolerable to me and my fmaily.

never bother about spare parts as electronics is better to be changed than repair.
and gree pricepoint is so cheap

Indoor unit coil leak quite common after a few years

From my exp:

York - after 5 years
Daikin - After 3 years
Midea - After 2 years
Panasonice - After 1.5 years (luckily still under warranty)

both are Good AC .
better to provide the shopee link or AC model to evaluate . price , features and performance .

Depends a lot on luck. Some will last long. Some die just after warranty expires.

yeah, nowadays the cooling coil tube is damn thin regardless the brand.

Try panasonic at Senheng. Current promo Deluxe inverter 1 hp inclusive installation for rm1620. If you can claim the 200 rebate can become rm1420. Since you want 9 ac unit only one unit can get the 200 rebate.

I got 1.5hp deluxe inverter panasonic for 1700 inclusive installation.

Apparently both daikin and panasonic got standard and deluxe inverter. Pana got another tier which is primier.

please validate your statement .

you dont know what you saying
better to keep silent than expose been a fool

Usually at the c bend at the left side of evaporator coil. Usually at the lower c bend rather than upper.

Usually extremely hard to braze the join to seal the leak. Better change aircon.

Exactly! braze it once and it lasted for few months.

Daikin. no need pick

https://hec.tnb.com.my/Public/ApplianceComp...SingleAppliance

But you still need to see other factors e.g. if it is an inverter model, what is the temperature outside and what is your set temperature etc.

Even though the air cond is rated as 1.5 hp, it doesn't mean you are drawing all 1.5 hp all the time.

Personally, I estimate one of my 1 hp air cond units to use ~RM50 per month.

Try and let us know what it is like for you?

All aircond are the same just difference between noises of thier compressors and cooling power

Non inverters compressor are louder than inverters

Other than that all same

Owned Pana, Hisense, Midea, Sharp, Haier, Hitachi

Have not heard of gree before honestly. Now baru tau.

by the way, is Daikin really the best?

I have 2 Daikin and 1 Toshiba and somehow my Toshiba is better.

come my house you can see
i have 2 gree AC .
price/performance/features was great so i decide to try .

How long have you had the Gree units? Any breakdowns other than normal servicing? I am still considering changing.

>gree
🤭🤭

already 8 months in use , 1 unit daily 6 to 12 hours . my normal set temp 25 to 26 Deg
i would say can put in buy list . and a buy if price is great .

it has plasma air and iFeel feature .
i wanted to try the iFeel feature in a hall .. it works great

I FEEL is one of the unique features , where a temperature sensor is built into the remote controller. When activated, the ‘I FEEL' mode will maintain the set temperature where the remote controller is located. This allows more temperature control wherever you may be located.
ie Localise cooling .
a few other china branded AC has this feature.

Are you sure .

Google say this !
The York brand has been owned since August 2005 by Johnson Controls, when it was sold to them for $3.2 billion. At the time of the acquisition, it was the world's largest independent manufacturer of air conditioning, heating, and refrigeration machinery.

Around RM 2-3 per day.

LoL.

GREE is one of the world largest HVAC manufacturer / supplier

GREE is no.1 top sales in CN.

D MY lets just say is diff range from D SG or D TH model. Diff quality one.

wow... oh wow....

YORK is bought by Johnson Controls

now all their AC units are manufactured in China. even their chillers also


on a side note, DAIKIN & ACSON shares the same factory in malaysia. hence, the same remote control, and same wifi technology. actually almost everything the same, only cosmetics differences

Daikin now is Acson Malaysia


This post has been edited by kkk8787: Mar 2 2021, 12:15 PM

Treat it like a mobile phone - after 3-5 years max change to a new model.
You happy, the manufacturer is even happier !!

i am not sure why you get too many leak coil issues... more than normal i would say .


possible causes
service using strong chemicals
temp setting very low .
your area the air is more acidic than normal.

are you not considering multi split unit since you want to install 9 units?

from my observation.. about RM60 per month..

been using GREE for almost 1 year

no problem whatsoever

cold summore. everynight ON.

cold like, have to turn off at 3-4am

constant temperature at 24-26. when raining 28.

16? confirm i demam the next day

An ex owner of 2 Daikin AC, 1hp. Bought because it's dirt cheap. Both leak like mad, cooling coil freezes a few times and looses wind the moment the blade is slightly coated with dust. After totally the cost of servicing and cleaning, I think it cost me more than any Daikin,

daikin tookover york few years already

they even publicly advertised it at that time so people know york is now daikin(on billboard, on prime time TV)
but did they maintain the quality, that i can't answer because i'm still using york

This post has been edited by MR_alien: Mar 2 2021, 04:29 PM

thank you everyone for taking your time to reply to my question. i updated my 1st post to reflect on the exact models that im considering to purchase. any personal experience input is highly appreciated

Actually instead of getting non inverter 1hp at 850..or paying same money or more money yet still NON inverter..
why not get 9700btu class inverter at 1099 for few bucks more? The ROI from inverter easily earn back.

https://www.lazada.com.my/products/hitachi-...5421424354.html
Hitachi RAS-X10CJ
BTU/h : 9,730 (2,047-11,500)
5* ST
2/10 warranty
More detail can see here https://www.homeappliances.hitachi.com/my/p...e_catalogue.pdf

The only thing, this is not latest (Gen 2 R32 inverter) from Hitachi. This is the previous model Gen 1 R32 that's why the btu rating very powerful.
For the price its certainly cheaper than any other Jap brand inverter at 9700 btu class (many so so design at 9000-9200 btu, cost cutting).
Even the current CKM series spec lose to this (CJ series) spec.

----

Gree GWC09ACC 9000btu only
Acson A3LC10F 8800btu / A3LC10FN 9500btu
Daikin FTV28P / RV28F-3WM-G1F 9500btu

This post has been edited by ceo684: Mar 2 2021, 08:06 PM

thats approximately rm250 extra for each unit. considering that im getting 9 units for my house, that will be rm2250 extra in total. gotta keep it within budget since i have to spend more on other stuff as well. but thank you for your suggestion

You can always mix and match, for those lesser used room doesn't really matter, but the CAPEX wise comparing with Daikin non inverter/Acson non inverter is 100-plus bucks.
The OPEX of non inverter I already kena 700 bucks extra on bill (0.51/0.54 tier) before for 1 unit 24/7 1.5hp in 1 mth.

Hence that's why I said you can easily earn back the ROI in OPEX (running cost) in very short while.

This post has been edited by ceo684: Mar 2 2021, 08:14 PM

Since you are installing 9 units, consider how many of the units you will often use and how many units are only for occasional/situational basis. Some area in the house you will install AC as decoration but will never really use it, maybe less than 10 times a year.

I'm using 2 premium inverter from Panasonic. Upfront cost is expensive and more expensive than any other brands but operating cost is cheap and I've saved more on my bill comparing to previous usage. Upgraded from 2 HP total to 4 HP total yet saved more on energy bill.

Panasonic

Yeah make total sense to put it that way.
But sadly CAPEX is rarely calculated for many as it’s not being “seen” yet.
For the regularly used location/rooms, better get the better units with inverter and put the non inverter units at the least used locations.
Some of us have aircon near the kitchen area and we really only use it for like few times a year, during festive celebrations

This post has been edited by Newgen: Mar 20 2021, 05:12 PM

Acson is cheaper alternative to daikin.

both almost the same

Renovating my new house now. Just installed 2x 1hp Daikin, 1x 1.5hp Daikin, 1x 1hp Sharp, 1x 2hp Sharp and 1x 2.5hp Panasonic

Imo. Buy cheapest one, if can tahan 2 tahun. Then anything after can change whole aircond.

DAIKIN

The manufacturer is OYLM... Last time they license the york brand. After johnson control stop licensing it and they also bought over by daikin. So now they sell daikin brand.

Gree, really cold.

Panasonic for spareparts.

Anyway, beware of shady services. Just clean it yourself.

Mitsubishi mana Mitsubishi?

how the poor gets poorer

Nah. If u fixed rm 300 plus. Must as well beli baru.