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post Mar 1 2021, 07:18 PM

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QUOTE(RectangleX @ Mar 1 2021, 12:12 PM)
Remove the SSD out and connect it directly to a motherboard, do a Secure Erase might help to return it to default factory settings. Initialize the drive and repartition after that could fix the issue. If still failed, send it back to Kingston for a warranty claim.
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Wow. OMG.
I did a secure erase with the Kingston SSD Manager and partitioned it with Windows Disk Management. Surprisingly it can be partitioned and the drive is now usable.
Thank you masta. notworthy.gif

But here comes the worry part: Should I continue to use that SSD? FYI, I use it for my critical data backup of my main PC.
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post Mar 1 2021, 07:30 PM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Mar 1 2021, 07:18 PM)
Wow. OMG.
I did a secure erase with the Kingston SSD Manager and partitioned it with Windows Disk Management. Surprisingly it can be partitioned and the drive is now usable.
Thank you masta.  notworthy.gif

But here comes the worry part: Should I continue to use that SSD? FYI, I use it for my critical data backup of my main PC.
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Well, if my method fixed the issue, most probably it was just a glitch or a corrupted partition issue. I had fixed this issue with this method many times before on my customers and friends SSD, so far none of them come back to me. Worried? Then just use it for non important data storage.
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post Mar 1 2021, 07:44 PM

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Tips: It would be wise to always create two copies of important data in two different storage drive, not just one drive. Because, the chances of two different drives failing at the same time are very slim to none.
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post Mar 1 2021, 11:04 PM

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I store my data on 3 different drives, nobody stores data on single drive if it's really important.
Consider raid 5 then
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post Mar 2 2021, 10:05 AM

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3-2-1 backup rules for important data
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post Mar 2 2021, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Mar 1 2021, 08:26 AM)
Welcome to the world of SSD... unfortunately SSD failure is more scary than HDD as if often showed no sign of why and when it is gonna happen. I used to had a work laptop which I swapped the HDD with SSD. Those early days low capacity SLC drive with dram cache some more. Even that failed suddenly around a year or so. Luckily I backup everything when it started to hang occasionally whenever I arrived at work (never shut down). I never expected the drive to fail though, therefore I just back those autocad files that I needed just in case. The ssd was only half filled (60GB).
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When was that?
My laptop just change to ssd about a year ago.
It show bsod when i just changed to ssd. Surprisingly the problem just gone like that after i update the graphic driver. Now it seem to come back, on n off screen freeze with weird sound.
Ssd doesnt last long huh? Or the 1st few year ssd is of poor quality?
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post Mar 2 2021, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(Zhik @ Mar 2 2021, 10:16 AM)
When was that?
My laptop just change to ssd about a year ago.
It show bsod when i just changed to ssd. Surprisingly the problem just gone like that after i update the graphic driver. Now it seem to come back, on n off screen freeze with weird sound.
Ssd doesnt last long huh? Or the 1st few year ssd is of poor quality?
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It was a pretty old laptop and ssd still in infancy state that time. Personally I felt like the hibernate or sleep not working properly. I always had bsod or hang initially. Then I turned off every power saving (since I don't use battery) and leave it on forever like a desktop. Never thought it would fail around 1 year+.
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post Mar 2 2021, 03:36 PM

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Happened to me once ; it just failed RMA it Kingston warranty for SSD is 5 years ,please check if your SSD is still covered.

Since it was in a USb 3 casing,have you updated its firmware?
https://www.kingston.com/en/support/technic...firmware-update

use Kingston SSD manager utility to check,upgrade SSD firmware based on your drive model no. . Before you send for RMA use it also to erase data securely.
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post Mar 2 2021, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(jibpek @ Feb 28 2021, 10:18 PM)
I have Samseng SSD failed just after 4 months of use.
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Can I know whats your model and capacity?
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post Mar 2 2021, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(MicroFury @ Mar 2 2021, 04:26 PM)
Can I know whats your model and capacity?
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850 EVO 1TB, bought when 1st launched, USD470 from NY
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post Mar 2 2021, 04:45 PM

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Seem HDD more stable that SSD
So many disk fail case
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post Mar 2 2021, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(DSLevantine @ Mar 1 2021, 05:07 PM)
From my experience, most of the time SSD fail without any warning.
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https://www.pcmag.com/news/windows-10-to-st...ent-ssd-failure
hope this will help
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post Mar 2 2021, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(PJng @ Mar 2 2021, 04:45 PM)
Seem HDD more stable that SSD
So many disk fail case
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Yes. Now dilemma whether I should buy hdd instead.
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post Mar 2 2021, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Mar 2 2021, 05:30 PM)
Yes. Now dilemma whether I should buy hdd instead.
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It's just the matter of luck. Buy whatever you wish to buy, don't think too much, lesser white hairs.
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post Mar 2 2021, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Mar 2 2021, 05:30 PM)
Yes. Now dilemma whether I should buy hdd instead.
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my Toshiba canvio 2tb rarely removed from pc, been using it from 2017, no sign of going bad.
it your pc is unstable eg, crash a lot and need to hard reset, it will kill the hdd and even ssd
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post Mar 3 2021, 03:33 AM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Mar 1 2021, 07:18 PM)
Wow. OMG.
I did a secure erase with the Kingston SSD Manager and partitioned it with Windows Disk Management. Surprisingly it can be partitioned and the drive is now usable.
Thank you masta.  notworthy.gif

But here comes the worry part: Should I continue to use that SSD? FYI, I use it for my critical data backup of my main PC.
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since the erase trick work, I guess it just fine, can continue to use it.
btw, modern SSD is not designed for cold backup, pls use other method instead.
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This post has been edited by hashtag2016: Mar 3 2021, 03:36 AM
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post Mar 3 2021, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(huislaw @ Mar 2 2021, 04:56 PM)
That is good to know. thank you
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post Mar 3 2021, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(hashtag2016 @ Mar 3 2021, 03:33 AM)
btw, modern SSD is not designed for cold backup, pls use other method instead.
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speaking of cold storage, does that mean i shouldn't leave my usb thumbdrive unused for months?

This post has been edited by Skylinestar: Mar 3 2021, 10:43 AM
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post Mar 3 2021, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Mar 3 2021, 10:43 AM)
speaking of cold storage, does that mean i shouldn't leave my usb thumbdrive unused for months?
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I got so many USB thumb drive (Kingston) laying around for more than 10 years unused, it's still working fine and the data inside is still retrievable without any issue. Like I said before, it's just a matter of luck, but do keep them in a clean dry place like a sealed storage box. Take good care of it, don't simply laying/leaving them around exposing to eg. sunlight, heat, moisture or dust openly.

This post has been edited by RectangleX: Mar 3 2021, 02:18 PM
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post Mar 3 2021, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Mar 3 2021, 10:43 AM)
speaking of cold storage, does that mean i shouldn't leave my usb thumbdrive unused for months?
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No worry, thumbdrive and microsd card are designed for that (especially good quality one) ,and we usually replace it with an newer/larger one , long b4 its healthy become a concern.
some microsd card even locked itself into readonly mode to protect your data integrity, if sth abnormal was detected.

For important data, u really need multiple backup. use an usb SSD as the only backup is not a good ideal, IMHO.
I'm not talking about the data integrity , I believed it shall be fine (mostly, if not all), the stablility it is .
Pls imaging that ,someday, If u suddenly find out your 1TB or 2TB USB SSD which hasn't been touched for 7 to 10 years is as slow as an USB2.0 thumbdrive (while copying data out), It would be a nightmare (u have to copy it out, regardless how slow it is ,coz it is ur only backup) drool.gif .
and if u have more than one drives like this to handle.. devil.gif drool.gif icon_question.gif doh.gif (although it may not necessary happnening this way.)

p/s: Eject the usb storage properly b4 unpluging it from any device is very imporant, it is the best way to reduce data corrupt.

QUOTE(RectangleX @ Mar 3 2021, 01:35 PM)
I got so many USB thumb drive (Kingston) laying around for more than 10 years unused, it's still working fine and the data inside is still retrievable without any issue. Like I said before, it's just a matter of luck, but do keep them in a clean dry place like a sealed storage box. Take good care of it, don't simply laying/leaving them around exposing to eg. sunlight, heat, moisture or dust openly.
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yes , it is fine (mostly).

This post has been edited by hashtag2016: Mar 6 2021, 12:26 PM

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