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TSah_heng
post Feb 19 2021, 11:43 PM, updated 5y ago

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I've just been vaccinated. AMA... #Pfizered
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post Feb 19 2021, 11:49 PM

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how the hell??.... wait.....
this is helang move....
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post Feb 19 2021, 11:52 PM

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can you check in after 3 months...
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post Feb 20 2021, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(soul78 @ Feb 19 2021, 11:52 PM)
can you check in after 3 months...
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Sure!! tongue.gif
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post Feb 20 2021, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(matiko95 @ Feb 19 2021, 11:49 PM)
how the hell??.... wait.....
this is helang move....
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What do you mean by helang move?
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post Feb 20 2021, 12:03 AM

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do you apply for volunteer?
any side effect after being vaccinated?
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post Feb 20 2021, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(soulz69 @ Feb 20 2021, 12:03 AM)
do you apply for volunteer?
any side effect after being vaccinated?
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I happen to fall under the "higher risk" group. So I've got to get it earlier than the usual group who are in my age group.

Not sure about side effects just yet but expected to have weak arms for a few days and running nose.
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post Feb 20 2021, 12:19 AM

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how many dose u gonna get?
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post Feb 20 2021, 12:21 AM

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QUOTE(kyogre @ Feb 20 2021, 12:19 AM)
how many dose u gonna get?
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2... Usually between 4 to 12 weeks after the first one.
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post Feb 20 2021, 02:25 PM

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how do u feel after being jabbed? any kind of sideeffects?
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post Feb 20 2021, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(aawonufh @ Feb 20 2021, 02:25 PM)
how do u feel after being jabbed? any kind of sideeffects?
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Everything seems to be ok so far apart from hand pain. Same like last time when i took the flu jab
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post Feb 20 2021, 10:27 PM

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How do you get notified that you are among one of the first to get the vaccine?
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post Feb 20 2021, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(zhenhao @ Feb 20 2021, 10:27 PM)
How do you get notified that you are among one of the first to get the vaccine?
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Not sure about it in Malaysia but in the UK I’ve got notified via sms sent from the doctor.
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post Feb 20 2021, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(ah_heng @ Feb 20 2021, 10:54 PM)
Not sure about it in Malaysia but in the UK I’ve got notified via sms sent from the doctor.
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how long should one unable to do exercise/go to gym after taking the vaccine?
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post Feb 21 2021, 12:59 AM

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QUOTE(NGV22 @ Feb 20 2021, 10:56 PM)
how long should one unable to do exercise/go to gym after taking the vaccine?
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Ermm... I went for a quick run a few hours after the vaccine. It’s ok to do any sports I guess as long as you have the energy.
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post Feb 22 2021, 01:04 AM

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Any rashes?
TSah_heng
post Feb 22 2021, 03:49 AM

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QUOTE(Blofeld @ Feb 22 2021, 01:04 AM)
Any rashes?
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Not that I notice. It feels like a massive hangover the day after. But on the 2nd day, it all feels normal again and arm is not longer pain...
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post Feb 23 2021, 11:03 AM

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Any swelling or headaches after the jab? Did you pop a Panadol after the jab?
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post Feb 23 2021, 05:45 PM

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QUOTE(Mr Mercedes @ Feb 23 2021, 11:03 AM)
Any swelling or headaches after the jab? Did you pop a Panadol after the jab?
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Luckily no swelling or any physical effect (rashes etc...). I don't have any headache as well despite it being listed as a potential side effects. The only thing I can felt after the jas was my arm was "uneasy" and feels like a bad hangover for the whole day the day after the jab.

Now I feel like normal now and (touch wood) I hope my body is now "accepting" the vaccine.
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post Feb 26 2021, 07:14 PM

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dd got extra inch like ccp vaccine?
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post Feb 26 2021, 07:27 PM

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QUOTE(SliparJepun @ Feb 26 2021, 07:14 PM)
dd got extra inch like ccp vaccine?
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dd perform as usual tongue.gif
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post Feb 28 2021, 01:04 AM

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Did u receive any certs or card after that?
TSah_heng
post Feb 28 2021, 03:49 AM

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QUOTE(Blofeld @ Feb 28 2021, 01:04 AM)
Did u receive any certs or card after that?
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Just a small piece of card informing you which vaccine you have taken just in case you forgot or they forgot which one they have given you.
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post Mar 1 2021, 05:14 PM

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so after a week.. everything sudah ok la?
have u try contact with cv19 patient?
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post Mar 1 2021, 06:38 PM

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QUOTE(salimbest83 @ Mar 1 2021, 05:14 PM)
so after a week.. everything sudah ok la?
have u try contact with cv19 patient?
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In fact after 2 days it feels like normal already.

Why would I go and expose myself with someone who got covid and risk bringing back the virus to my family and friends?
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post Mar 1 2021, 11:32 PM

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when is the next shot?

heard the side-effect like flu or pening-pening only start when you take the second shot due to lipid reaction
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post Mar 2 2021, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(marukopi @ Mar 1 2021, 11:32 PM)
when is the next shot?

heard the side-effect like flu or pening-pening only start when you take the second shot due to lipid reaction
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My next shot not until 11 weeks from now. Maybe earlier... So won't know the 2nd shot side effect yet. So far my 1st shot (touch wood) everything is ok apart from arm pain on the 2nd day and woke up like a bad hangover. No headache or high temp.
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post Mar 2 2021, 12:10 AM

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do you have diabetes, hypertension or heart disease or a combination of any?
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post Mar 2 2021, 12:23 AM

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QUOTE(MrWrath @ Mar 2 2021, 12:10 AM)
do you have diabetes, hypertension or heart disease or a combination of any?
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hypertension sad.gif
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post Mar 2 2021, 08:45 AM

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How u feeling now? Got tired?
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post Mar 2 2021, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(miromiro @ Mar 2 2021, 08:45 AM)
How u feeling now? Got tired?
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I felt a bit weaker the day after the vaccine. After that it's like normal. So don't worry smile.gif
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QUOTE(ah_heng @ Mar 2 2021, 05:07 PM)
I felt a bit weaker the day after the vaccine. After that it's like normal. So don't worry smile.gif
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God to hear that,wanna ask do you need to quarantine alone? If got family staying togather how?
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QUOTE(miromiro @ Mar 2 2021, 05:46 PM)
God to hear that,wanna ask do you need to quarantine alone? If got family staying togather how?
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After vaccination, we do not need to be quarantined. Just need to follow the usual lockdown SOP where ever you are in. Vaccination doesn't mean I've got a transmissible virus smile.gif It's not contagion.
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post Mar 4 2021, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(salimbest83 @ Mar 1 2021, 05:14 PM)
so after a week.. everything sudah ok la?
have u try contact with cv19 patient?
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This is indeed a stupid question lol... *facepalm*
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post Mar 5 2021, 09:08 AM

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QUOTE(ziling60 @ Mar 4 2021, 05:38 PM)
This is indeed a stupid question lol... *facepalm*
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ala.. lawak je la
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post Mar 9 2021, 05:23 PM

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TS do you feel fine physically? No headache or fever after vaccination?
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post Mar 9 2021, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(leftycall9 @ Mar 9 2021, 05:23 PM)
TS do you feel fine physically? No headache or fever after vaccination?
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Thanks for your concern. (TOuch wood) I don't have any headache or fever after the vax. Physically is just the arm pain the next day and woke up like a bad hang over the next day. The hang over is like for the whole day but. after another sleep everything reverts back to normal. Nothing at all.
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QUOTE(ah_heng @ Mar 9 2021, 05:41 PM)
Thanks for your concern. (TOuch wood) I don't have any headache or fever after the vax. Physically is just the arm pain the next day and woke up like a bad hang over the next day. The hang over is like for the whole day but. after another sleep everything reverts back to normal. Nothing at all.
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Having hang over all day long isn't good no? hhhmmm i'm kinda a bit worried now. Is it better to take vaccine after working hour so can straight go home and rest?
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post Mar 10 2021, 01:20 AM

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QUOTE(leftycall9 @ Mar 9 2021, 11:59 PM)
Having hang over all day long isn't good no? hhhmmm i'm kinda a bit worried now. Is it better to take vaccine after working hour so can straight go home and rest?
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Yes.. factor in that you have to rest the whole day the day after the vax. It's similar to when I took the flu jab last time actually. You still can work and do stuff but I definitely can feel that it's weaker. At least for me...
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QUOTE(ah_heng @ Mar 10 2021, 01:20 AM)
Yes.. factor in that you have to rest the whole day the day after the vax. It's similar to when I took the flu jab last time actually. You still can work and do stuff but I definitely can feel that it's weaker. At least for me...
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Thanks for your input appreciate it. smile.gif
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I got my vaccination on wednesday morning, back to gym this morning carried weight as usual.

the only side effect is numbing pain at the injection site after few hours which lasted less than 12 hours, felt like someone punched my arm many times.
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QUOTE(jialat @ Mar 12 2021, 12:16 PM)
I got my vaccination on wednesday morning, back to gym this morning carried weight as usual.

the only side effect is numbing pain at the injection site after few hours which lasted less than 12 hours, felt like someone punched my arm many times.
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Congrats!!! Thanks for sharing. Yah.. i am surprise such a small needle can cause such discomfort at the injection site smile.gif
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post Mar 18 2021, 10:23 AM

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mRNA vaccines are experimental gene therapy.
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post Mar 18 2021, 07:24 PM

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QUOTE(Tham @ Mar 18 2021, 10:23 AM)
mRNA vaccines are experimental gene therapy.
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Hope they will made better human beings tongue.gif
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post Mar 19 2021, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(ah_heng @ Mar 18 2021, 11:24 AM)
Hope they will made better human beings tongue.gif
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You are very naive.

Messing around with your RNA/DNA
is playing with wildfire.

It can trigger off autoimmune disorders,
even cancer, years later.


https://science.sciencemag.org/content/299/5605/320

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18357342/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12835668/



Already multiple cases of multiple sclerosis,
Guillain-Barre, Sjogren's, SLE, rheumatoid
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If you want to get it, then go for those using
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Sinovac
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post Mar 19 2021, 07:13 PM

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Any symptoms in first 24 hours? I will be getting mine soon. Just be prepared
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QUOTE(soul78 @ Feb 19 2021, 11:52 PM)
can you check in after 3 months...
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Else ts rip...

This post has been edited by freeman1: Mar 19 2021, 07:16 PM
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post Mar 19 2021, 07:16 PM

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QUOTE(Tham @ Mar 18 2021, 10:23 AM)
mRNA vaccines are experimental gene therapy.
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Yea yea Pfizer vaccine use mRNA
Sinovac use live attenuated
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post Mar 19 2021, 07:17 PM

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QUOTE(Captain89 @ Mar 19 2021, 07:16 PM)
Yea yea Pfizer vaccine use mRNA
Sinovac use live attenuated
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QUOTE(freeman1 @ Mar 19 2021, 07:17 PM)
Zombies inkambing for pfizered
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No la. I felt like Pfizer vaccine safer than the rest idk
Cuz I’m getting live attenuated vaccine
BBV152
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post Mar 19 2021, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(Captain89 @ Mar 19 2021, 07:19 PM)
No la. I felt like Pfizer vaccine safer than the rest idk
Cuz I’m getting live attenuated vaccine
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Ok. U become mutant not zombie.
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QUOTE(Tham @ Mar 18 2021, 10:23 AM)
mRNA vaccines are experimental gene therapy.
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how is it gene therapy when it doesnt alter the gene?
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QUOTE(Captain89 @ Mar 19 2021, 07:13 PM)
Any symptoms in first 24 hours? I will be getting mine soon. Just be prepared
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Main thing is that my arm was pain the next day. Apart from that, I woke up feeling like a bad hangover smile.gif I felt a bit weak too the next day but nothing more than that. No fever or temperature. And the day after that like nothing happens smile.gif
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QUOTE(ah_heng @ Mar 19 2021, 10:17 PM)
Main thing is that my arm was pain the next day. Apart from that, I woke up feeling like a bad hangover smile.gif I felt a bit weak too the next day but nothing more than that. No fever or temperature. And the day after that like nothing happens smile.gif
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Hmmm still bearable I guess. Pain should the least concern for me 😂 just worried about sudden high fever, vomiting, no appetite only. Bro thanks for info 👍
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QUOTE(Captain89 @ Mar 19 2021, 10:23 PM)
Hmmm still bearable I guess. Pain should the least concern for me 😂 just worried about sudden high fever, vomiting, no appetite only. Bro thanks for info 👍
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Should be fine. Get ready some paracetamol just in case. But they have vax so many people already.
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QUOTE(ah_heng @ Mar 19 2021, 10:31 PM)
Should be fine. Get ready some paracetamol just in case. But they have vax so many people already.
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Sure. Hopefully can get myself back as soon as possible
Want to get my life back to normal
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QUOTE(Captain89 @ Mar 19 2021, 10:59 PM)
Sure. Hopefully can get myself back as soon as possible
Want to get my life back to normal
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You will!! Frankly, now I find myself less scared to go out and meet people tongue.gif And there's a light at the end of the tunnel.
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QUOTE(Captain89 @ Mar 19 2021, 11:16 AM)
Yea yea Pfizer vaccine use mRNA
Sinovac use live attenuated
Sinovac (Coronavac), Sinopharm and Bharat
(Covaxin) are all killed, not
attenuated, vaccines.

The rest are all mRNA or vectored.
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QUOTE(Tham @ Mar 20 2021, 12:03 AM)
Sinovac (Coronavac), Sinopharm and Bharat
(Covaxin) are all killed, not
attenuated, vaccines.

The rest are all mRNA or vectored.
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But stated there weakened virus. How to induce immunity with killed virus? All types of vaccines are supposed to be inactived/ weakened state cannot killed.

If killed then why they want to regulate temperature? Since it’s a killed virus temperature isn’t a factor anymore
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QUOTE(slimey @ Mar 19 2021, 12:29 PM)
how is it gene therapy when it doesnt
alter the gene?
It does not need to alter the DNA
directly.

You are instructing your cells to
produce a protein foreign to your
body.

Explained here.

https://youtu.be/_fqDWQsegT4


Petition by French doctors, lawyers and citizens.


https://www.nakim.org/israel-forums/downloa...%A7%D7%99%D7%9D


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QUOTE(Tham @ Mar 20 2021, 12:47 AM)
It does not need to alter the DNA
directly.

You are instructing your cells to
produce a protein foreign to your
body.

Explained here.

https://youtu.be/_fqDWQsegT4
Petition by French doctors, lawyers and citizens.
https://www.nakim.org/israel-forums/downloa...%A7%D7%99%D7%9D
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yes. i know that.

but not a gene therapy
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Wow.. this is getting very technical. Glad to see more people are getting interested in the vax. I hope you guys will take it regardless of which one it is...
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QUOTE(Captain89 @ Mar 20 2021, 12:09 AM)
But stated there weakened virus. How to induce immunity with killed virus? All types of vaccines are supposed to be inactived/ weakened state cannot killed.

If killed then why they want to regulate temperature? Since it’s a killed virus temperature isn’t a factor anymore
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virus is not something that is "alive" .

it is rendered "unable to infect" before it becomes vaccine.

any foreign "object" that enters the body would induce immune reaction. it does not have to be alive or even the whole unit( there are vaccines that contain only a part of bacteria or virus or just the toxin itself)

temperature is more toward prevent denature of the protein spike on the virus
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QUOTE(Captain89 @ Mar 19 2021, 04:09 PM)
But stated there weakened virus. How to induce immunity with killed virus? All types of vaccines are supposed to be inactived/ weakened state cannot killed.

If killed then why they want to regulate temperature? Since it’s a killed virus temperature isn’t a factor anymore
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Inactivated means dead. They
kill the viruses with beta propionolactone, as in Coronavac.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inactivated_vaccine


https://www.google.co.id/amp/s/www.news-med...ed-Vaccine.aspx



" The COVID-19 vaccines that Sinovac, Sinopharm, and Bharat Biotech have developed are inactivated vaccines. "

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/c...d-vaccines-work

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thres only two side effect
one is RIP
one is nothing happen
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QUOTE(slimey @ Mar 20 2021, 12:54 AM)
virus is not something that is "alive" .

it is rendered "unable to infect" before it becomes vaccine.

any foreign "object" that enters the body would induce immune reaction. it does not have to be alive or even the whole unit( there are vaccines that contain only a part of bacteria or virus or just the toxin itself)

temperature is more toward prevent denature of the protein spike on the virus
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Virus need to infect in order to achieve effective immunity, just that they weakened it to prevent severe symptoms to humans. Unlike virus from environment inhaled airborne droplets into respiratory tract, those are active and could be fatal.

If you say ‘unable to infect’ means immune system will recognise it as ‘foreign substances’ only
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QUOTE(Tham @ Mar 20 2021, 01:05 AM)
Inactivated means dead. They
kill the viruses with beta propionolactone, as in Coronavac.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inactivated_vaccine
https://www.google.co.id/amp/s/www.news-med...ed-Vaccine.aspx
" The COVID-19 vaccines that Sinovac, Sinopharm, and Bharat Biotech have developed are inactivated vaccines. "

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/c...d-vaccines-work
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Inactivated for you means dead... inactivated for me means half dead but can be reactivated once introduce into the body. Currently they trying on Ritonavir, remdesiver, Azithromycin that’s what I know for now. Just reduce side effects
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QUOTE(Captain89 @ Mar 20 2021, 01:32 AM)
Virus need to infect in order to achieve effective immunity, just that they weakened it to prevent severe symptoms to humans. Unlike virus from environment inhaled airborne droplets into respiratory tract, those are active and could be fatal.

If you say ‘unable to infect’ means immune system will recognise it as ‘foreign substances’ only
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no need.

it just have to be there and induce an immune response
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QUOTE(slimey @ Mar 20 2021, 01:55 AM)
no need.

it just have to be there and induce an immune response
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?? How??? Just to be there you mean? Let’s take during pregnancy, fetus ‘is there’ so they will induce immune cells to attack fetus also. Simply attack, placenta don’t play a role here

They need to infect first, just like we say hi when visiting other people house
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QUOTE(Captain89 @ Mar 20 2021, 02:02 AM)
?? How??? Just to be there you mean? Let’s take during pregnancy, fetus ‘is there’ so they will induce immune cells to attack fetus also. Simply attack, placenta don’t play a role here

They need to infect first, just like we say hi when visiting other people house
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sigh............it will take to long to explain obstetrics and immunology to you.

i suggest you google on your own.
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QUOTE(Captain89 @ Mar 19 2021, 06:02 PM)
?? How??? Just to be there you mean? Let’s take during pregnancy, fetus ‘is there’ so they will induce immune cells to attack fetus also. Simply attack, placenta don’t play a role here

They need to infect first, just like we say hi when visiting other people house




The virus is totally dead. It is
just floating around in your
system.

Your neutrophils, macrophages,
T-cells, NK cells, etc, are reacting
to the receptors still on the
virus - spike protein, main
protease, and other pieces of
RNA/DNA code they think is
foreign.




 

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