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 I've just been vaccinated. AMA...

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Captain89
post Mar 19 2021, 07:13 PM

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Any symptoms in first 24 hours? I will be getting mine soon. Just be prepared
Captain89
post Mar 19 2021, 07:16 PM

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QUOTE(Tham @ Mar 18 2021, 10:23 AM)
mRNA vaccines are experimental gene therapy.
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Yea yea Pfizer vaccine use mRNA
Sinovac use live attenuated
Captain89
post Mar 19 2021, 07:19 PM

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QUOTE(freeman1 @ Mar 19 2021, 07:17 PM)
Zombies inkambing for pfizered
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No la. I felt like Pfizer vaccine safer than the rest idk
Cuz I’m getting live attenuated vaccine
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Captain89
post Mar 19 2021, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(ah_heng @ Mar 19 2021, 10:17 PM)
Main thing is that my arm was pain the next day. Apart from that, I woke up feeling like a bad hangover smile.gif I felt a bit weak too the next day but nothing more than that. No fever or temperature. And the day after that like nothing happens smile.gif
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Hmmm still bearable I guess. Pain should the least concern for me 😂 just worried about sudden high fever, vomiting, no appetite only. Bro thanks for info 👍
Captain89
post Mar 19 2021, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(ah_heng @ Mar 19 2021, 10:31 PM)
Should be fine. Get ready some paracetamol just in case. But they have vax so many people already.
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Sure. Hopefully can get myself back as soon as possible
Want to get my life back to normal
Captain89
post Mar 20 2021, 12:09 AM

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QUOTE(Tham @ Mar 20 2021, 12:03 AM)
Sinovac (Coronavac), Sinopharm and Bharat
(Covaxin) are all killed, not
attenuated, vaccines.

The rest are all mRNA or vectored.
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But stated there weakened virus. How to induce immunity with killed virus? All types of vaccines are supposed to be inactived/ weakened state cannot killed.

If killed then why they want to regulate temperature? Since it’s a killed virus temperature isn’t a factor anymore
Captain89
post Mar 20 2021, 01:32 AM

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QUOTE(slimey @ Mar 20 2021, 12:54 AM)
virus is not something that is "alive" .

it is rendered "unable to infect" before it becomes vaccine.

any foreign "object" that enters the body would induce immune reaction. it does not have to be alive or even the whole unit( there are vaccines that contain only a part of bacteria or virus or just the toxin itself)

temperature is more toward prevent denature of the protein spike on the virus
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Virus need to infect in order to achieve effective immunity, just that they weakened it to prevent severe symptoms to humans. Unlike virus from environment inhaled airborne droplets into respiratory tract, those are active and could be fatal.

If you say ‘unable to infect’ means immune system will recognise it as ‘foreign substances’ only
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post Mar 20 2021, 01:35 AM

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QUOTE(Tham @ Mar 20 2021, 01:05 AM)
Inactivated means dead. They
kill the viruses with beta propionolactone, as in Coronavac.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inactivated_vaccine
https://www.google.co.id/amp/s/www.news-med...ed-Vaccine.aspx
" The COVID-19 vaccines that Sinovac, Sinopharm, and Bharat Biotech have developed are inactivated vaccines. "

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/c...d-vaccines-work
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Inactivated for you means dead... inactivated for me means half dead but can be reactivated once introduce into the body. Currently they trying on Ritonavir, remdesiver, Azithromycin that’s what I know for now. Just reduce side effects
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post Mar 20 2021, 02:02 AM

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QUOTE(slimey @ Mar 20 2021, 01:55 AM)
no need.

it just have to be there and induce an immune response
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?? How??? Just to be there you mean? Let’s take during pregnancy, fetus ‘is there’ so they will induce immune cells to attack fetus also. Simply attack, placenta don’t play a role here

They need to infect first, just like we say hi when visiting other people house

 

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