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post Feb 18 2021, 08:58 PM, updated 5y ago

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I used to be a PC gamer. My last built PC was in 2015. My last laptop was 2016. I am currently using a recycled workstation HP Z400 from 2011. I think it's about time I upgrade to my next PC. Yes, I am kedekut that I wait till the tech gap is big enough before jumping on.

I've been eyeing Illegear Onyx V R7 4800H (RTX 3060) that goes for around RM5.2k.

I know I don't really need RTX 3060 because I don't game that much on PC anymore. But I still have the urge.

So alternatively, I've been suggested ASUS TUF GAMING R5 4600 (GTX1650) at RM3.6k

My question is, how big a generation gap is it between these two? I only game at 1080p. I'm fine with lower detail as long as the frame rate's good. Will I miss anything much, assuming I'm not buying a new laptop within the next 5 years?


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post Feb 18 2021, 09:13 PM

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Been using lenovo legion 5
ryzen 7 4800
16gb RAM
gtx 1650ti

No issue with 1080p... (yeah need to tune it down a bit to get 60fps)
got it at 3.6k before...
and alot of freebies...

Maybe it just me... coming from entry level gpu
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QUOTE(Amzach @ Feb 18 2021, 09:13 PM)
Been using lenovo legion 5
ryzen 7 4800
16gb RAM
gtx 1650ti

No issue with 1080p... (yeah need to tune it down a bit to get 60fps)
got it at 3.6k before...
and alot of freebies...

Maybe it just me... coming from entry level gpu
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That sounds like a better spec than the ASUS I listed above...
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post Feb 18 2021, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(Amzach @ Feb 18 2021, 09:13 PM)
Been using lenovo legion 5
ryzen 7 4800
16gb RAM
gtx 1650ti

No issue with 1080p... (yeah need to tune it down a bit to get 60fps)
got it at 3.6k before...
and alot of freebies...

Maybe it just me... coming from entry level gpu
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How's the battery life for general usage like using word, fb, youtube etc ?
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post Feb 18 2021, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Feb 18 2021, 08:58 PM)

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how much you're willing to spend and wait?
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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Feb 18 2021, 11:13 PM)
how much you're willing to spend and wait?
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RM5k is about my budget. I need it in about a week or two.
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post Feb 19 2021, 12:30 AM

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my advice 1660S minimum... 1650 is abit too low to play AAA game...
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Feb 19 2021, 12:28 AM)
RM5k is about my budget. I need it in about a week or two.
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Illegear Rogue Ryzen (2060)
Commandos Glock 5 Ace G2 (2060)
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post Feb 19 2021, 02:16 AM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Feb 18 2021, 10:13 PM)
That sounds like a better spec than the ASUS I listed above...
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It’s normal, the term “AsusTax” didn’t pop out of thin air without some basis, LOL.

Asus’ pricing is generally on the higher side as compared to other OEMs.

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QUOTE(msacras @ Feb 19 2021, 02:16 AM)
It’s normal, the term “AsusTax” didn’t pop out of thin air without some basis, LOL.

Asus’ pricing is generally on the higher side as compared to other OEMs.
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I'm not aware of the AsusTax term laugh.gif.

So it's a brand thingy?
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post Feb 19 2021, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(xenith @ Feb 18 2021, 10:41 PM)
How's the battery life for general usage like using word, fb, youtube etc ?
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Sorry for late reply...
Mine is 60wh batteries...
been on battery conservative mode since day one (60%)...
can last around 2.5 hours with brightness at 100% for work (word, excel, powerpoint)...
As for youtube & browsing, i think should be the same.
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QUOTE(Amzach @ Feb 19 2021, 10:10 AM)
Sorry for late reply...
Mine is 60wh batteries...
been on battery conservative mode since day one (60%)...
can last around 2.5 hours with brightness at 100% for work (word, excel, powerpoint)...
As for youtube & browsing, i think should be the same.
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Conservative mode can last 2.5 hours only? That's not alot.

Are all laptops like this nowadays?
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Feb 19 2021, 09:15 AM)
I'm not aware of the AsusTax term laugh.gif.

So it's a brand thingy?
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Mainly their gaming branded stuffs such as Strix/ROG. TUF often made it to the list too.
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post Feb 19 2021, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(Amzach @ Feb 19 2021, 10:10 AM)
Sorry for late reply...
Mine is 60wh batteries...
been on battery conservative mode since day one (60%)...
can last around 2.5 hours with brightness at 100% for work (word, excel, powerpoint)...
As for youtube & browsing, i think should be the same.
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Thanks for reply boss... looks like it's quite acceptable for gaming laptop at brightness of 100%...

for the lcd display, which specification you choose ? like 60hz, 120hz or 144hz ?

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So what would you guys recommend apart from Asus? Around the budget of RM4-5k?
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post Feb 19 2021, 01:57 PM

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How about these then: How big a difference is 1650 vs 1650TI
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post Feb 19 2021, 02:55 PM

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How about Asus zehpyrus G14 ? This got good review in Youtube and better than Legion 5.... If you eyeing this, let me know how much and where you buy ya ....


But most other mfg does not have configurable warranty addons like Lenovo.
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Feb 19 2021, 12:28 AM)
RM5k is about my budget. I need it in about a week or two.
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I don't think you can get Illegear RTX 3060 in 1 - 2 weeks time.

Last week they said expecting the units to arrive somewhere around in March, or at the end of March.

Anyway, can drop their sales a message to check if stock arrived.



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QUOTE(huislaw @ Feb 19 2021, 03:39 PM)
I don't think you can get Illegear RTX 3060 in 1 - 2 weeks time.

Last week they said expecting the units to arrive somewhere around in March, or at the end of March.

Anyway, can drop their sales a message to check if stock arrived.
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Yup, that's what I've been informed too.

So right now, I'm trying to decide on whether to get GTX1650 based laptop right now, or wait for the RTX3060 about a month++ later.
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Feb 19 2021, 03:42 PM)
Yup, that's what I've been informed too.

So right now, I'm trying to decide on whether to get GTX1650 based laptop right now, or wait for the RTX3060 about a month++ later.
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or checkout their ready stock https://www.illegear.com/laptops/#readystock



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QUOTE(azarimy @ Feb 19 2021, 10:41 AM)
Conservative mode can last 2.5 hours only? That's not alot.

Are all laptops like this nowadays?
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Conservative mode is not power saving mode.
it is for prolonging battery life.
The battery is only charged to 60% max in conservative mode.
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QUOTE(xenith @ Feb 19 2021, 11:08 AM)
Thanks for reply boss... looks like it's quite acceptable for gaming laptop at brightness of 100%...

for the lcd display, which specification you choose ? like 60hz, 120hz or 144hz ?
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Yeah quite acceptable... I think can go to at least 5 hours on 100% battery and 100% brightness (youtube, browsing, typing)
My display come with 144hz... ready to ship stock if I remember correctly...
The cheaper 120hz is better for 1650ti if gaming at 1080p.
But have to wait more than 8 weeks to receive.
Luckily I got very good deal with my purchase.
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azarimy if u want 1650, u could get this. but it was 2.3k last month. you missed the promo. good thing is, they will ship within 6 working days.

https://www.lenovo.com/my/en/laptops/ideapa...U6/p/82EY003YMJ

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Feb 18 2021, 08:58 PM)
I used to be a PC gamer. My last built PC was in 2015. My last laptop was 2016. I am currently using a recycled workstation HP Z400 from 2011. I think it's about time I upgrade to my next PC. Yes, I am kedekut that I wait till the tech gap is big enough before jumping on.

I've been eyeing Illegear Onyx V R7 4800H (RTX 3060) that goes for around RM5.2k.

I know I don't really need RTX 3060 because I don't game that much on PC anymore. But I still have the urge.

So alternatively, I've been suggested ASUS TUF GAMING R5 4600 (GTX1650) at RM3.6k

My question is, how big a generation gap is it between these two? I only game at 1080p. I'm fine with lower detail as long as the frame rate's good. Will I miss anything much, assuming I'm not buying a new laptop within the next 5 years?
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May I ask what happen to your previous built in PC?Are they still working for now?For basic using purposes?
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QUOTE(keluarpattern @ Feb 23 2021, 01:00 AM)
May I ask what happen to your previous built in PC?Are they still working for now?For basic using purposes?
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I'm currently using the Z400 workstation at home. It's working fine for most purposes. But it starts to struggle when multitasking. Even doing hi-res photoshop stuffs while having 2-3 browsers open will cause it to struggle. It's very limited when it comes to multi-tasking.

My 2015 PC is still at the office. I still use that one except for doing advanced Revit or Lumion rendering (3D renderings).


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QUOTE(azarimy @ Feb 23 2021, 08:00 AM)
I'm currently using the Z400 workstation at home. It's working fine for most purposes. But it starts to struggle when multitasking. Even doing hi-res photoshop stuffs while having 2-3 browsers open will cause it to struggle. It's very limited when it comes to multi-tasking.

My 2015 PC is still at the office. I still use that one except for doing advanced Revit or Lumion rendering (3D renderings).
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Wow looks like d pc is well built in

Still working after some years

Which is good

You don't plan to sell off d built in pc/trade in for securing other pc models?
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QUOTE(keluarpattern @ Feb 23 2021, 11:33 AM)
Wow looks like d pc is well built in

Still working after some years

Which is good

You don't plan to sell off d built in pc/trade in for securing other pc models?
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Not sure if anyone wants it. The workstation uses old Quadro, which is pretty crap for gaming (even in 2011), but good in computing stuffs. And they're also using SATA HDDs. So I'm just gonna keep them and use for casual stuffs and for my daughter's online classes.
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Feb 23 2021, 11:52 AM)
Not sure if anyone wants it. The workstation uses old Quadro, which is pretty crap for gaming (even in 2011), but good in computing stuffs. And they're also using SATA HDDs. So I'm just gonna keep them and use for casual stuffs and for my daughter's online classes.
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Your hdd inside d pc roughly got how much of storage?And how about d RAM?
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QUOTE(keluarpattern @ Feb 23 2021, 11:59 AM)
Your hdd inside d pc roughly got how much of storage?And how about d RAM?
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2 HDDs, both 1TB each.
4 GB Ram.
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Feb 23 2021, 08:53 PM)
2 HDDs, both 1TB each.
4 GB Ram.
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Wow actually not bad considering you built in at 2015
Is impressive
Btw in the between time

Did you doing upgrading again for the pc?

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QUOTE(keluarpattern @ Feb 23 2021, 08:55 PM)
Wow actually not bad considering you built in at 2015
Is impressive
Btw in the between time

Did you doing upgrading again for the pc?
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The original was 500GB HDD. Then I had to replace it in 2018 because it started to make weird sounds. I bought the 2nd HDD quite recent, around 2019 I think.

And no, I probably wont spend any more money on the PC, since I've bought a new laptop (based on the suggestions here).
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Feb 23 2021, 09:53 PM)
The original was 500GB HDD. Then I had to replace it in 2018 because it started to make weird sounds. I bought the 2nd HDD quite recent, around 2019 I think.

And no, I probably wont spend any more money on the PC, since I've bought a new laptop (based on the suggestions here).
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How much you bought the latest laptop

Any free gift for it?

No wonders

Because when you talking about 1tb HDD

Which I actually a bit surprising for year 2015

Which could be kinda new in here at that time

Hence curious asking only whether any upgrading doing between that.




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https://shopee.com.my/-RTX3060-Acer-Gaming-...3685.3184370922

Have you checked out Acer Nitro 5? I unironically use an Acer Nitro 5 for gaming. Hasn't given me any trouble in the past three months I've used it. The keys are tactile and the performance is solid. I love it.
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QUOTE(Kairyu @ Feb 24 2021, 11:24 AM)
https://shopee.com.my/-RTX3060-Acer-Gaming-...3685.3184370922

Have you checked out Acer Nitro 5? I unironically use an Acer Nitro 5 for gaming. Hasn't given me any trouble in the past three months I've used it. The keys are tactile and the performance is solid. I love it.
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How's the battery hours for gaming vs non-gaming usage?
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QUOTE(Kairyu @ Feb 24 2021, 11:24 AM)
https://shopee.com.my/-RTX3060-Acer-Gaming-...3685.3184370922

Have you checked out Acer Nitro 5? I unironically use an Acer Nitro 5 for gaming. Hasn't given me any trouble in the past three months I've used it. The keys are tactile and the performance is solid. I love it.
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seconded this the new acer nitro 5 with rtx 3060 thumbsup.gif
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QUOTE(Kairyu @ Feb 24 2021, 11:24 AM)
import unit, no warranty...
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QUOTE(chkwong @ Feb 24 2021, 11:51 AM)
How's the battery hours for gaming vs non-gaming usage?
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about 6 hours-ish for gaming and can stretch to 8 hours for non-gaming.

 

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