Hi, I am currently waiting for VP of sentul point bare unit, 743sf, and this is my first house. Quite unsure about the renovation budget. Hope to get advise on the renovation cost and purchase of furniture. How much to cost on renovate the kitchen and those electrical works? Hope to keep below budget of RM15k, if possible.

Thanks.

15k kinda low

kitchen cabinet ald 3-5k, havent include utensils, oven, hob, hood

sofa set 2k

bed set 2k min up till 5k

tv?

washing machine?



This post has been edited by hightechgadgets8: Feb 18 2021, 05:33 PM

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15k is not possible for "renovation".

Unless you're talking about basic things like installing lights, fan & AC, buy simple sofa set & dining table, washing machine & fridge. Should be doable with 15k.

It is possible ... if this were 1950s

Building materials and labour cost are getting more expensive each day. Despite the small size of the property, one still needs to get basic things such as aircond, fans, lights, switches, sanitary equipment, sinks, taps, curtains, furniture etc. At minimum there is a need to paint the unit and that alone will cost a couple of thousand.

15k is enough for downpayment for the work unless the unit will be left essentially empty and sleep on the floor?

15k will be very spartan as one has to cut corner everywhere.
30k can afford to splurge on more stuff.

Sofa basic 2 seater Klippan 699
Fridge 300L 1300
Ikea dry kitchen 8ft Kitcab (knoxhult) base around 16xx-18xx + installation say 600 included in the price 2200
Ikea Gerton 6ft table top with 4x RM10 legs - use for outdoor wet kitchen where it is cheap enough to be expendable for stove cooking- 399
Ikea solid wood Dining table with 3 chairs 399
Ikea dbl bed frame 599
Ikea dbl mattress 799
TV 50" 4k 1599
Fans KDK regulator twin pack (2pc fan) 290; self install but regulator box need additional minor works.

WH panasonic (assuming you have water point and electrical point ready) 280
Aircon 1hp inverter each exclude installation 1099
Paints if paint yourself whole unit exclude skim coat "nice to have" about 800-1000
Barebones above already RM10663

The remainder 4300 will cover some of these
Ladder
Basic tools like few screwdriver and hammer and china spanners
Power tools like rotary hammer to drill holes in concrete wall/ceiling
Extension cord
Lights just get surface LED mount or make all ikea pendant/bare bulb industrial style for cheap
Threekim grille for main door (yes I know got cheaper ones but your three more days of AL taken for rework and edit and rework also cost money) 1300-1700
Kitchen hardware like mwave oven, stove, gas tong deposit, air fryer, toaster, kettle
Ancillary stuff for kitchen eg cooking utensils, pots and pans
TV rack
Cheap ikea standing clothes rack
Washing machine top load 7L from "quality manufacturer" 799
Quality padlock like Abus or Yale or Viro (not ciplak lock) 50-200

15k is doable but there will be no fancy nice to haves like hack whole toilet or whole floor to change tiles.
May have to double up the dining table as WFH office table also.

This post has been edited by ceo684: Feb 18 2021, 06:36 PM

My general rule of thumb is 10% of the price of the house to get furniture and basic renovations (ie. kitchen cabinet, sofa, other necessities). More expensive if you're planning to get higher-end materials/design.
If you have the time, you can do a budgeting on your own, if not you have to just rely on a designer or something.

First outline the spaces you have (bedroom, bathroom, kitchen, living, dining), list the furniture you need, include the non-furniture stuff (flooring, wiring, plumbing, wall painting, ceiling, wiring), then search around on the prices and sum it up. I'm budgeting for my 450sq feet apartment, so far my budget is already between 17k-24k (including custom kitchen cabinet, wardrobe and partitions).

Kitchen cabinet is easily 3-5k. If you want furniture under 15k, then you have to settle for cheap china furniture.
Washing machine is already 1k for front load, fridge is already at 1-2k for 358L panasonic one, sofa is around 1-2k but you can get cheaper 2-seater sofa somewhere online. Stove is easy 2k. Water heater is around 500-1k.

do those essential works for you to move in first, 15k should be sufficient for that with simple reno

RM15k is a very tight budget, focus on the things you need to be done, then the rest live with it.

My friend also reno cost overrun to RM40k from initial 20k for almost the same apartment size.

If you have that budget then you just have to prioritize those that need to be done before moving in (eg.painting, plug points, grille, lights, fans, beds, etc). There are just limited things can be done and a lot of trade offs are required.

Despite what some people said it's doable but tight, all I can say is that this budget won't be enough to make a comfortable home. Renovation is not cheap nowadays.

If you can DIY , that will save quite a lot of cost.

keep things simple. i believe 15k is possible.
i am currently listing out and planning out appliances and furniture cost.
total units needed and find those item and get the costing.
first house you should also plan out to get experience.
never try never know.

those item you need to get no need to get big size.
enough for you usage. many cheap items at lazada.

Mine almost same sqft as TS. Also did very basic things. Wardobe only 1 room ada also. Already 30k. Haven't include sofa, bed and elctrical appliances. If include bed and appliances, around 50k

For 15k, he can only ask contractor to install lights, fan, ac. No plaster ceiling, no custom made kitchen or tv cabinet, no full height wardrobe

Buy ikea 2.5 kitchen cabinet, but all furnitures standalone type (not built in). Built in furnitures will drive cost up alot

This post has been edited by hirano: Feb 21 2021, 08:48 PM

Yeah. I remember 10 years ago back when I first moved into our rented house after we got married, all the basic furniture like sofa, wardrobe, dining table set, fridge, WM, TV, Rugs & etc (mostly future proof items, i.e: big sized fridged, big sized WM & etc), already come close to 10k. I wonder what TS could do with leftover 5k. Probably install fan, lightings & AC.

This is an empty unit. Don't you think grille, curtains, fans, toilet bowls, shower units, lights, water heater, water filters, painting and additional electrical points are required before all the furnitures? Before you know it these items will eat up all the 15k budget. Definitely those are more than 5k

Toilet bowl, shower units, most bare units already comes with it. Water heater for shower? Not everyone likes warm shower. Most likely can skip. Additional electrical points can be replaced with extension plugs. Water filter, cheap panasonic attached to the faucet will do. But even we exclude all that, I don't think 5k is enough. Like Hirano said, probably 30k should be the bare minium.

Renovation means improving the condition of the property to a better condition. So the key point is what 15k can improve on the condition of the unit? Standard security stuffs like locks, grille is a must. Painting the unit is a must. Curtains is probably required. Lighting and fans are mandatory. One needs to budget for telecom requirements from broadband connectivity to router. After you minus a few hundreds here and thousand or two there, there isn't anything left to make this a home. Heck, I don't think you can make this into a basic AB&B not to even talk about a decent unit to stay.

Speaking from experience 30k barely makes it usable. Even with careful planning and a lot of stuff DIY to save money instead of calling contractor - come to think of it I only called the aircon installer and grille maker to come.
(Well I did splurge on some stuff, some things I cut corners) already 30k:

TV, Sharp 60" 2499
Mibox 3 214.5
Grille, Front Entrance 2090
Sofa 0 FOC
Bed+Divan 0 FOC
Belkin Surge Protector 70
IKEA HEKTAR floor lamp 235
Bigtomato.co Beanbag 599 for 2pcs
IKEA Cord set 103.2
Fridge Used 400
Fridge Hitachi R-VG490P8M 2400
Washing machine 1050
Clothes rack 60
LED tube 32
Water heater, Panasonic 278.45
IKEA Kitcab BOTTOM half 4,937.52
IKEA Sink 890 HÄLLVIKEN 1 1/2 bowl insert sink with drainer
IKEA Kitcab TOP half 1070
Kitcab Lighting - Philips LED Linear Batten (18W 3000K) 6.04 Shopee sale
Sink Piping, Class 7 PVC 40mm 6
Sink Piping Hokah Flexihose 16
Sink Piping Fittings and Teflon Tape 12
KDK Fan Vtouch Jr 820
Pana Windless Wonder Bayu 4 270
IKEA Bedroom Wall Lights 0 FOC
LED 400lm bulb for IKEA Bedroom Wall Light 8
Ikea curtain rail 105 whole unit
Ikea Merete curtains 516
Ikea day curtains 196
Alternate colour set Merete curtains 258
Nippon Paint
Paint (1L Gloss) 20
Paint (5L Emulsion) 35 white matex
Paint (18L Emulsion) NA
Paint (5L Colour) 98 colour 5L
Paint brush 8
Paint tray 5
Paint roller 20
Roller extension NA
Thinner btl NA

Furniture
TV bench, Pine wood DIY 100
TV bench legs, IKEA 65
IKEA Gerton+Adils 369
IKEA Norraker Square study table 230
IKEA INGO pine dining table 199
IKEA JOKKMOKK 4 chairs 160

Power Tools
Bosch GBH 2-24 DRE rotary hammer 490
Bosch GBH180Li cordless rotary hammer(solo tool,4AH procore,fast charger) 777
Bosch GKS7000 circular saw 335
Bosch GSB180-Li 229
Bosch GWS060 angle grinder (with grinding discs) 115
Bosch grinding discs 10
SDS Drill bits for rotary hammer 28
SDS 22mm bit 44.8

Electrical
Mega Kabel 16mm 65
Caramay 4mm 18
Caramay 2.5mm Red, Black 168
Caramay 2.5mm Green 95
Fajar 2.5mm Flex Cable 5m 18
ABB C6 C20 MCB 242
ABB 30mA RCD x1 142
ABB 10mA RCD x2 344
Siemens B16 MCB 30
Eaton Metal DB Box 97
Plastic conduit for MK sockets 2
Fitting for conduit end 3
MK sockets 87
Plastic nut box for relocating switch 2
Kyoritsu 2117R Clamp Meter 199

Hardware Tools
MTC Cable Cutters 85
Stanley PH2 Insulated Screwdriver 22
Stanley Screwdrivers 40
China Big Adj Spannar x2 30

Aircon
Hitachi 1.5HP Wall Mount R32 Air Conditioner RAS-F13CJ (AIR COND) 1,104.00
Hitachi 1.0hp Inverter RAS-X10CJ 1218
Hitachi 1.5hp Inverter RAS-X13CJ 1,589.60
Inaba Denko Paircoil 20m x2 1080
Acson Stainless Steel Bracket 180
Standard Installation 690

Kitchen Appliances
Hitachi Rice Cooker 295.51
Tefal Air Fryer 399

TOTAL 30724.62

edited, forgot to add curtains and rail in.

This post has been edited by ceo684: Feb 23 2021, 01:20 AM

This is one detailed list! Most people don't spend that much on power tool though! Power sis!!!
Other than that this is what considered required to make a house a home. I keep on telling that 15k you can definitely do something on the property but it won't be enough to make it a home that one can live with basic comfort.

can u give link to these

IKEA Kitcab BOTTOM half 4,937.52
IKEA Sink 890 HÄLLVIKEN 1 1/2 bowl insert sink with drainer
IKEA Kitcab TOP half 1070

cant find the KitCab online...

Haha I see the problem
I meant total lumpsum of my own bottom half not the ikea model called BOTTOM
Its for a rather well specced one, cost can vary based on what doors/drawer front type u pick.
Also, between doors and shelves vs drawers (mine entire bottom half is fully drawered except for sink cab) there is a cost difference, fully soft close as well. Blum fittings for cheap must fully utilise.

The sink Hallviken is the composite black sink, i think its EOL here in MY but this is the same in white at other global ikea
https://www.ikea.com/ch/en/p/haellviken-ins...uartz-80348011/

The top one is 2units of 80x80 cab frame, with doors n soft close hinges. Haven't fully installed in the doors suddenly felt more convenient without.

You can create ur custom kitcab at https://kitchenplanner.ikea.com/my/UI/Pages...eDetection=true
Better use PC or laptop for creating ur dream design. Phone not so user friendly although can load the planner. Its not a preconfigured cookie cutter standard type like the knoxhult series.

This post has been edited by ceo684: May 11 2021, 08:47 PM


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actually i searched for Ikiea KitCab, not bottom, haha

eh, thanks for response, will check it out ...

If it doesn't involve any wet works, 15k is possible.
But you will need to do alot of DIY shopping via taobao and shopee for items such as down light, track light, sofa, TV cabinet, dining table, etc.
Since your unit is 800sqft only, I presume only 2 rooms?
Just hunt for the cheap bedroom set.

Ranging from rm1k to 2k, can get 5ft cabinet, queen bed, makeup table, side table.
Mattress you may want to invest a slightly good quality ones, might cost 1k.

Aircond you can get Midea 1hp for about rm800 installation rm200 back to back or rm18 per feet if need extension.

15k is enough, Ikea + Indonesian contractor do kitchen and install lights fan aircon
Settled.
No offence, but this is not a good project at all. Cincai do to rent out or own stay enough...

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