https://www.anandtech.com/show/16535/intel-...-rocket-lake/19

11700K really seems disappointing without overclocking. The memory latency regressions vs Comet Lake means 5800X still easily beats it in gaming.

Power consumption when TDP is ignored, without manual core multiplier settings is also worse than Comet Lake - 225W for most work, 290W for AVX-512. Although to be fair, it's the only desktop chip that does AVX-512 right now.

Given the leaked pricing, I think the 8-cores appear to be a bust, 6-core value chips is where RKL will shine the most as it's much more competitively priced against the 5600X there.

you argue it's apples to apples comparison for cooler but failed to mentioned they compared intel and amd with avx512 vs avx2, why not apples to apples?

comparing June 2020 - September 2020, Dotatech price for 11700 look good, markup about Rm40-60 only

buy for i9 and i7 K, unlock. die laaa buyer.

Dotatech’s pricing is out.

11700 - rm1598
11700k - rm1948
11900 - rm2118

Scalping price or nay? 😅

So expensive 11900k..

If 11900k is 2499, it's the same price as a 5800x and the former is a better CPU overall. Don't think it's that expensive really.

For intel cpus, there is a way to extract more performance even with the locked motherboards like the B560 and even B460 which is by setting the power limit to "infinite", so making the cpu run on boost forever.

Why it matters? Because intel cpu are designed to be efficient so it will boost exceeding its tdp for short term bursty performance and then when the load is long enough like rendering or gaming, it will drop down to the spec tdp and run very very cool but significantly slower.

So what these board does is intentionally remove that power limit out of the box which will require beefier vrm... as cpu like 10900F for example will draw over 200w. So even if you cant overclock the cpu, those vrm will still actually make your cpu run alot faster than the intended stock settings.

Thats why ctskl mentions the gamer nexus's review is questionable because they intentionally enable the power limiter despite the testing board disabled it in stock settings.

200w+ is absolutely fine for intel... come on dont tell me youve not used those old school cpu that draws 400w before and it still runs fine after 10 years. Besides it only hit such levels under AVX loads especially AVX512. In gaming when the cpu barely go above 50% utilization and it tends to draw lesser than even AMD. Thus why you can see intel consistently shows lower gaming temps.

I personally changed from AMD to intel and i realized on all the misconceptions personally.

Anyways there's still alot of things like chipset and gpu driver updates, OS patches etc. Will probably take a few weeks to actually see the performance come out like any new cpu launches.

nah those aren't even really power hungry, it just has bad heat transfer from the die to the IHS.

Ryzen 5800X - 135-141W hits 90C (depending on ambient temps)
Intel 3770K before delid - ~88W hits 90C, IIRC

Ivy Bridge until the 8700K all really demanded for delids to actually hit their true potential, since Intel ditched the solder they used for paste. They only added back solder with the 9900K and Comet Lake chips using the 10-core die.

Which means that is what would be expected from a 11700F with power limit release because he didn’t overclock the K. So that means a $298 cpu got within the gap of the 5800x $450 cpu. Really impressive..

I guess this guy got some beef with intel as he’s consistently trying to cap the performance or find some irrelevant flaws. He used to publish highly OCed intel benchmarks that sometimes surpass competing OCed ryzen.. but somehow not this time.

From some of reviewer, previous i9-10900k most likely win then 11th Gen i9-11900k. Those extra core and thread from 10th Gen is the reason over it.

i7-11700k not much to impress.

while i5-11600k top overall value+performance. Thumb up.

Come with power watt increase + temperature higher. By a reason to target with performance increase. It still with 14nm tech.