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piscesguy
post Apr 1 2021, 07:10 AM

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The truth is here.

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post Apr 10 2021, 05:53 PM

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The Intel stock cooler is worse than Ryzen. And the speed penalty is heavy compared to Ryzen.

Looks at the R23 AND R20 scores, it's throttling so bad if compared to Ryzen using stock cooler.

At least for Ryzen, the stock cooler is still usable BUT for Intel, the stock cooler is a joke, cannot even manage decent boost for long work load.

CORES=6
THREADS=12
MHZ=2600.000000
MHZ_ESTIMATE=inf
PROCESSOR=11th Gen Intel Core i5-11400
CBTYPE=64 Bit
OSVERSION=Windows 10, 64 Bit, Professional Edition (build 19042)
CBCPU1=0.000000
CBCPU1PEAK=0.000000
CBCPUXPEAK=8562.460490
CBCPU1ARRAY={}
CBCPUXARRAY={}
C4DINFO=
C4DVERSION=23.200
C4DBUILDID=RBBenchmark330542

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CORES=6
THREADS=12
MHZ=2600.000000
PROCESSOR=11th Gen Intel Core i5-11400
CBTYPE=64 Bit
OSVERSION=Windows 10, 64 Bit, Professional Edition (build 19042)
CBCPU1=0.000000
CBCPUX=3337.943964
C4DINFO=
C4DVERSION=20.060
C4DBUILDID=RBBenchmark281795


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post Apr 10 2021, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(terradrive @ Apr 10 2021, 06:24 PM)
That can simply be fixed by getting a cheap aftermarket cooler. Even then ryzen cpus also mostly needed aftermarket cooler too so the point is quite moot.

Not to mention that intel gives the option of integrated gpu and the ryzens (except APU ryzen) don't have integrated gpu.
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I have yet to test the uhd 730.

If can play esports games 1080 high at 60fps, then it’s a win for intel.
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post Apr 10 2021, 07:37 PM

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Increased CPP to 85w and CPU managed to maintain 87c until cinebench completed.

I guess this is the max wattage for stock cooler.


R23 = 9462

R20 = 3672

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post Apr 10 2021, 07:47 PM

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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Apr 10 2021, 07:39 PM)
the stock cooler is actually only rated only up to 65w as per intel's official guide. But most aib have been naughty.
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Where as Ryzen stock cooler will max out the wattage until the CPU reaches 95c to provide max boost frequency until the end.
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post Apr 11 2021, 10:22 AM

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Geekbench 5, having a slow RAM is not helping.

https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/7365662
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post Apr 11 2021, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Apr 11 2021, 11:21 AM)
Overclock the slow ram biggrin.gif or get that samseng bdie posted here hehe
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Already oc from 2666 to 3200.

Maybe need to fix the timings.
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post Apr 13 2021, 09:15 AM

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11400 UHD 730 still lost to AMD 2200g APU in 3DMark Night raid.

AMD 2200g Graphics = 12552, CPU = 5217, Total score = 10365

UHD 730 Graphics = 8161, CPU = 12003, Total score = 8572

AMD beat Intel in every corner now, considering 2200g launched in early 2018.

AMD 2018 APU still wins Intel 2021 iGPU, it's ashamed to Intel. laugh.gif

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post Apr 14 2021, 04:41 PM

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11400 vs 3300x in F1 2018, I m not impressed.

Maybe need to use powerful GPU to see more FPS in 11400?

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post Apr 17 2021, 07:19 AM

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Have been using the wrong memory gear mode all the while. (In the bios, gear mode was set to Auto by default)

Yesterday changed to gear mode 1, memory latency jumped from 70ns to 54ns.

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post Apr 17 2021, 01:55 PM

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Just found out my Kingston Value Ram 2666mhz is a Micron Rev E, further set the CL to 14, make some changes to secondary timing.

Latest Geekbench 5 result.

https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/7458163


I will continue to explore the sub timings... smile.gif
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post Apr 18 2021, 10:09 AM

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I think I m done with the RAM timings.

Latest Geekbench 5 results.

https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/7473186

This is the most I can do with the Micron Rev E. smile.gif

I have another set of Kingston Value Ram that is a Hynix CJR, not sure wanna play with that set.
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post Apr 18 2021, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(MetalIronWood @ Apr 18 2021, 11:14 AM)
your one it's ok still can read without any issue. Mine one read also cannot and prompt with error message.
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Can go to intel website, search for your model number.

They have Qvl listing there.


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post Apr 19 2021, 04:25 AM

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Done some minor RAM timing adjustment, I hope this is the final one. biggrin.gif

https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/7486360


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post Apr 20 2021, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Apr 20 2021, 01:38 PM)
You can follow what piscesguy did at going gear 1:1 to get some extra latency performance. Maybe even set your command rate to 1 as most motherboard xmp will run at 2. And most importantly drop your vccsa/imcvccio voltages
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Well I modified my RAM from 2666mhz 20-22-22-52-540-CR2 to 3200mhz 14-18-18-32-480-CR1, what a journey. sweat.gif sweat.gif
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post Apr 21 2021, 07:06 AM

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post Apr 21 2021, 03:50 PM

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I have replaced the Intel stock cooler, now completed CB R20 at 71c, max 115w

Idle temp is around 34c.


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post Apr 21 2021, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(terradrive @ Apr 21 2021, 03:54 PM)
is that the highest after power unlock? iinm it can go like 130-150watts right, or 115w is what it uses. cinebench is using avx load too right?
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I set the power limit to 125w, but in the case of running CB R20, it never exceed 115w. All cores at 4.2GHz all the time.

I think the score is as expected.. hmm.gif
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post Apr 21 2021, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(terradrive @ Apr 21 2021, 04:03 PM)
wow 115w is very easy to cool even with cheap aftermarket coolers.

oh i just remembered my cinebench r15 uses 15% less power compared when i'm running blender render with 64x64 tile size
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I run CB R23, also same it uses around 115w to complete it, yeah I use a cheap after market cooler. biggrin.gif

CORES=6
THREADS=12
MHZ=2600.000000
MHZ_ESTIMATE=inf
PROCESSOR=11th Gen Intel Core i5-11400
CBTYPE=64 Bit
OSVERSION=Windows 10, 64 Bit, Professional Edition (build 19042)
CBCPU1=0.000000
CBCPU1PEAK=0.000000
CBCPUXPEAK=10296.879987
CBCPU1ARRAY={}
CBCPUXARRAY={}
C4DINFO=
C4DVERSION=23.200
C4DBUILDID=RBBenchmark330542

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post Apr 22 2021, 07:27 AM

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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Apr 21 2021, 04:45 PM)
btw curious, What's the max ring ratio you can set?
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The only similar ring ratio setting in my bios is Enabled or Disabled option.

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