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post Mar 8 2021, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(yimingwuzere @ Mar 8 2021, 07:34 AM)
Yup there's no easy way to prove it was or wasn't a sample

Good roast on the hypocrisy of complaining about 5 minutes early while doing theirs 25 days early though.

Wonder how many other European reviewers or tech enthusiasts bought Rocket Lake early?
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Their 'review' was rubbish... but:

1) https://images.anandtech.com/doci/16535/MainImage219.jpg
The easy way might be taking a photo of the purchased CPU wink.gif
2) Of the bigger ones? 0.

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post Mar 9 2021, 12:29 AM

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nevermind unsure.gif end of the month it is

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post Mar 9 2021, 06:11 PM

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QUOTE(targon @ Mar 9 2021, 06:06 PM)
11900k ....please come to me..... thumbup.gif
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ah both fine, won't complain about a 11700k either.
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post Mar 20 2021, 04:02 PM

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can't wait to see the 11600 or 11600kf available for purchase.

so far only 11400F, 11700, 11700k, 11900 out there.

personally I don't think the prices will inflate above msrp for a long time. unless they bring in super low stock... which I doubt.

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post Apr 1 2021, 09:07 AM

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well nowadays with all the reviewers popular out there, it's easy to be under the impression that Intel is inferior to AMD in gaming. However I don't think that this is necessarily true if both systems are overclocked to or near the maximum of their capabilities.

N then there is AMD's lack of presence for lower price point CPU's for gaming. I.e. I doubt anyone would want to argue a 3600 is a better choice compared to a 11400F.

Furthermore I'd say that it's infinitely easier to be wasting your time on instabilities or annoyances having a Vermeer system.

Looking forward to some numbers with proper RAM OC to be shared.
I'll do my small part some time this month.
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post Apr 2 2021, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Apr 2 2021, 10:52 AM)
Thanks. I guess i will whack this ram kit after all i tend to tune my rams capped at 1.45v so the heatsink should be fine. (Cant be worse than my low profile vulkanZ anyways)

IKR... so many saying the gearing is like infinity fabric. Even those big names..... now i am starting to question their legitimacy as a "techguru"
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Yup you should. Unfortunately the price went up but its still worth getting imho.
Buy two of these and replace the Klevv 'Heatspreaders' (if you wanna push) after you made sure they are working fine as I doubt warranty will be honored afterwards.


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post Apr 7 2021, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(Eoma @ Apr 7 2021, 09:10 PM)
sifus, a bit off topic, hope you all dont mind, Corsair PSU RMA still under Cudo ? Convergent ? Back in 2017 i sent to Cudo.
My RM1000x (which was a RMA of my AX860) is giving a loud popping noise when turned on (read online it's the current being loaded or something). So in the meantime, i just don't turn off the wall plug. haha.
Thanks!
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Corsair is under Convergent nowadays who are offering a pretty good support imho.
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post Apr 18 2021, 02:48 PM

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lpx can see from the version number on the ram sticker, whats urs skylinestar

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post Apr 18 2021, 03:26 PM

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too lazy to search for the English source, u'll get what it means anyways

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post Apr 18 2021, 03:30 PM

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another one, but lots of rubbish there so be cautious
https://www.reddit.com/r/overclocking/wiki/ram/ddr4
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post Apr 18 2021, 04:06 PM

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all corsair same @Bonchi
4.32 100% c-die, had lots of these myself. its just thaiphoon burner misreporting.
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post Jun 20 2021, 10:58 PM

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just tag the master tongue.gif
I believe cstkl1 has a nice 5066c20 profile as well which you could scale down in frequency to meet your voltage/temperature limitations.
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post Jun 21 2021, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(llaw @ Jun 21 2021, 01:58 PM)
That's a surprise to me actually, never thought TSMC 7nm consume that much power during idling... or inefficient power management from AMD.
I was using 9900KF before upgrading to 11700K, didn't notice much changes in terms of power consumption, be it at idle or full load.  But I unlock all power limits and overclock near the max anyway.
Good thing is that still able to achieve low power consumption at idle.
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They just got contractual amount of chips they must source from GlobalFoundries.
Since GF just got 12nm and 14nm that's what you end up seeing on your chipset or as your IO die.
And this is also where most of the power wastage takes place.

Not even talking about how complex the IO die is and how many things it is used for.
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post Dec 2 2021, 04:51 PM

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poor Gigabyte laugh.gif

don't encourage ASUS-MY to raise prices even further! ideally I'd like to order in Malaysia rather than overseas.
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post Jan 26 2022, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Jan 26 2022, 02:20 PM)
Guess intel forgot to put on the bclk governor component? laugh.gif but isnt K series overclocking also not covered by warranty recently?

Speaking of which, i have not encountered a board yet that cannot change bclk... problem is whether can boot or not jer.

I guess intel is secretly glad also... afterall rarely an average user will buy K series anyways and now this will make many choose intel over AMD.
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this is not about changing bclk only buddy.

you need an external clock generator which requires extra components on the motherboard. and afaik there are only *a few* ddr5 boards that have these.
so actually this is not a really big thing. if you are set for ddr5 ... ok you can save a few RM but if DDR4 is an alternative you can get a K CPU with the same capacity RAM for much less.

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post Jan 26 2022, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Jan 26 2022, 04:04 PM)
Isnt debaur latest video sort of went around his assumption of needing an external clock gen with a midrange B660 board with a later video? Because iinm since skylake bclk is decoupled already.

He probably assumed external clockgen is needed because he didnt see the bclk enable/disable inside tweaker's paradise on the cheaper board but later found out it can be done straight away on his B660.

Not sure now but asrock has been promoting the bclk overclock settings in their manuals on most of their boards including their super cheapo ddr4 boards

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Msi, gayaybird and assus's manual got no details on the bios so i dunno. That's why im also semi doubtful cuz cant find much info or user tests but all assrock seems to have it.
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I'm not watching his videos but to put it briefly, no. Without a external clock generator you have a significantly lower range. Without having tested it you're probably gonna max out at 130 if not 120 or earlier.

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post Jan 26 2022, 04:47 PM

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clarification after checking; 103 is the limit enforced by Intel, above that you can only bypass with the external clock gen. (techpowerup's latest review)

asrock also has a hand full of boards with it but I doubt they will add it to others (especially budget ddr4) as that would mean another revision had to be launched.
and that is disregarding whether or not there is space on the current layout for the chips to be placed, which especially for itx,... will be a major issue.

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post Jan 26 2022, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Jan 26 2022, 04:54 PM)
That's why im very curious due to debaur tested b660 board can do it too. That's why i mentioned did intel forgot to put that limiter on alderlake. That 103bclk mentioned by techpowerup is a govenor that are all on the previous gen nonK cpu. (Supposedly external clock gen should not work either)
https://skatterbencher.com/2021/11/04/alder.../#BCLK_Governor

And even so, it also means we can whack a 12600K and put it into a B660 and overclock it with bclk.
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I know. But it was already established that at least for ASUS that on B660 it just works on the G GAMING and F Gaming. Since it doesn't work on the others that would contradict a missing/deactivated governor.
Unless you use a K CPU, which doesn't require an bypass anyways, yeah.
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post Jan 26 2022, 05:38 PM

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oh no, I can take your hopes right there. hardwareluxx.de already tested a few boards which couldn't do it.
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post May 14 2022, 08:38 AM

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https://videocardz.com/newz/gigabyte-announ...-related-issues

For anybody with an AORUS Z690I Ultra out there.

Just reinstates that you should always avoid Gigabyte at all costs when it comes to motherboards. For the most parts it's the sub par BIOS... this time they even screwed up even bigger.

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