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post Feb 12 2021, 11:09 AM, updated 5y ago

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post Feb 12 2021, 11:11 AM

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brapa? pay municiple to upgrade?
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post Feb 12 2021, 11:11 AM

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Looks nice long porch
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post Feb 12 2021, 11:13 AM

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post Feb 12 2021, 11:15 AM

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i think jes one n a half, not proper two

look like mezzanine floor oni
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post Feb 12 2021, 11:15 AM

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Legal or not?

Or depends on local govt?

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post Feb 12 2021, 11:16 AM

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Looks nice but design ugly

Bare brick sticking out the sides, ewww

1st floor I notice has a grille but 2nd floor looks like zero security measures, bad idea
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post Feb 12 2021, 11:17 AM

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This place looks like its in PJ.
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post Feb 12 2021, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(lucifer_666 @ Feb 12 2021, 11:15 AM)
Legal or not?

Or depends on local govt?

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depends on local zoning, yes. This isn't full 1 storey so confirm pass mia

Here in Cheras we can build up to 4 storey even provided foundations are rated for it.
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post Feb 12 2021, 11:21 AM

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The roof too minimal for 2nd floor.

It will double as oven for the day.
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post Feb 12 2021, 11:23 AM

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looks like they propped up the porch floor
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post Feb 12 2021, 11:26 AM

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But the house besides look so bad
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post Feb 12 2021, 11:27 AM

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post Feb 12 2021, 11:28 AM

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Many claim against these type of renovation. Especially the neighbors. Sometime bocor, sometimes retak
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post Feb 12 2021, 11:32 AM

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I wouldnt do that. Better to use the money to buy another house. Moreover the house stands out in the neighbourhood and this will definitely going to attract all sorts of unwanted attention.

Near my house also had one such owner of a corner double storey house. The owner demolished the whole house and rebuilt a 3 storey house on the land. During piling works, all the houses same role with mine were badly affected by the noise. The neighbours of that house suffered cracked in their homes but I believe they were compensated but still it wouldnt be the same anyone. After the house was ready, the owner only had a home blessing ceremony. Hardly anyone stays there. Few years later, it was up for auction.
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post Feb 12 2021, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(OrangCacat @ Feb 12 2021, 11:26 AM)
But the house besides look so bad
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The houses at the sides are 1960-1970 design.
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post Feb 12 2021, 11:35 AM

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Inkambing... 2storey terrace.. bekambing 3 storey

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post Feb 12 2021, 11:38 AM

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a house in the squalor is still a house in the squalor.
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post Feb 12 2021, 11:45 AM

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there are way too many houses like this, converting from single storey to 1.5-2 storey terraced house in Bangsar Park.

One even with see through window where you can see bathtub in luxurious marbles tiled bathroom along Jalan Maarof.
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post Feb 12 2021, 11:48 AM

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Rather buy new house in upscale area. You'll have better neighbors.
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post Feb 12 2021, 11:49 AM

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post Feb 12 2021, 11:52 AM

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Got money anything can do one

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post Feb 12 2021, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(wotvr @ Feb 12 2021, 11:48 AM)
Rather buy new house in upscale area. You'll have better neighbors.
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This I agree. I stretched my budget and buy somewhere where I can barely afford. Automatically my neighbour also upgraded laugh.gif
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post Feb 12 2021, 11:53 AM

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This house in TTDI i think.

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post Feb 12 2021, 11:54 AM

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these houses look like those typical bangsar and PJ bubble urbanites who are ready to throw half a million in cash on reno budget

janji their house scores high on the green index lul
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QUOTE(ketupatlazat @ Feb 12 2021, 11:54 AM)
these houses look like those typical bangsar and PJ bubble urbanites who are ready to throw half a million in cash on reno budget

janji their house scores high on the green index lul
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I initially thought it is my neighbouring street in Bangsar Baru (Terasek 6) with the same kind of design.

Single story is fetching low 1mil while double story is around 1.5-1.6mil. Rather than spending 500k putting half a story, why not just buy a 2 story instead?
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QUOTE(lucifer_666 @ Feb 12 2021, 11:15 AM)
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Depends on helang or pipit.

If helang approve.
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post Feb 12 2021, 08:44 PM

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mostly seldom moved cos of friends and neighbour and environment. used to it. prefer there.
go pasar can sit down know everyone so yeah.they just upgrade their house
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post Feb 12 2021, 08:47 PM

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This is 1.5 storey terrace house kn?
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Not bad, it it legal?
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post Feb 12 2021, 08:50 PM

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I'm just gonna leave this house to show what real helang can do. BTW The renovated house is in the middle of this row of old semi-d houses.

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post Feb 12 2021, 09:00 PM

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yo mader fader haus reno completed dy?
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post Feb 12 2021, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Feb 12 2021, 12:05 PM)
I initially thought it is my neighbouring street in Bangsar Baru (Terasek 6) with the same kind of design.

Single story is fetching low 1mil while double story is around 1.5-1.6mil. Rather than spending 500k putting half a story, why not just buy a 2 story instead?
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I know someone that did just that in Bangsar, single storey to 1.5 storey completed in 2018.

Why?

1.) That was the house his mum left him and the house he was born in as well as lived in since 1977. Sentimental value??

2.) The house saw the changing of fortunes, from both parents being teachers, he started up a tech start up that saw him become a multi millionaire by the age of 28.

3.) It was also the home his late granddad passed away in as well as it was where his kids were born.

4.) He could not imagine living anywhere else but at Bangsar.

5.) He wanted a house that retained some features of the original house as well as some parts to be bespoke and he wanted a house that was one of a kind. On this he did tell me yes you could buy a 2 storey at Bangsar for around rm1.5mil at that time and it would be in very decent condition but in the end it would still need work as no one sells a newly renovated house.

He spent rm700k on that conversion and the finished product definitely is not to everyone’s taste but he is very happy with the end product.

I must say other than the raw concrete facade it is quite a nice house.

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QUOTE(croydon @ Feb 12 2021, 11:49 AM)
2.4mil? Is it real? For that price, I think can get something better...
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post Feb 12 2021, 11:11 PM

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the 2nd floor ceiling fan confirm kena hujan and window masuk air
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k/ mau tanya the porch punya lantai is cement or what materials ya? shaped into rectangles? wont feel like very kasar?
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QUOTE(zeist @ Feb 12 2021, 12:09 PM)
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The first floor grill look like jail.
Awning is zink ke? Noisy la when rain.
2nd floor side brick is ugly and macam easy for home break in.

The awning also macam rain water will go to neighbour home. No complain ke?

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QUOTE(Asquith @ Feb 12 2021, 10:21 PM)
I know someone that did just that in Bangsar, single storey to 1.5 storey completed in 2018.

Why?

1.) That was the house his mum left him and the house he was born in as well as lived in since 1977. Sentimental value??

2.) The house saw the changing of fortunes, from both parents being teachers, he started up a tech start up that saw him become a multi millionaire by the age of 28.

3.) It was also the home his late granddad passed away in as well as it was where his kids were born.

4.) He could not imagine living anywhere else but at Bangsar.

5.) He wanted a house that retained some features of the original house as well as some parts to be bespoke and he wanted a house that was one of a kind. On this he did tell me yes you could buy a 2 storey at Bangsar for around rm1.5mil at that time and it would be in very decent condition but in the end it would still need work as no one sells a newly renovated house.

He spent rm700k on that conversion and the finished product definitely is not to everyone’s taste but he is very happy with the end product.

I must say other than the raw concrete facade it is quite a nice house.
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I agree with what you say.

I guess spending 700k nowadays is probably what a 'decent renovation' would cost esp if you want imported material. Also problem with renovations, it is best to move out otherwise whole house can be very messy.

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post Feb 13 2021, 03:20 AM

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bangsar?
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post Feb 13 2021, 03:31 AM

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balcony no barrier at all?
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QUOTE(Blofeld @ Feb 13 2021, 03:31 AM)
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QUOTE(enduser @ Feb 12 2021, 11:52 AM)
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Trying to copy western style but reality is:
- hot as fuck the concrete absorbing the heat from the sun all day
- mosquitos
- need to clean constantly due to rain, pollution
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QUOTE(noobz4ever @ Feb 12 2021, 08:47 PM)
This is 1.5 storey terrace house kn?
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Yes.

Most PBTs will not allow you to extend a full storey.


QUOTE(haturaya @ Feb 12 2021, 08:47 PM)
Not bad, it it legal?
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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Feb 13 2021, 03:18 AM)
I agree with what you say.

I guess spending 700k nowadays is probably what a 'decent renovation' would cost esp if you want imported material. Also problem with renovations, it is best to move out otherwise whole house can be very messy.
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Yes especially if it is a pre80s house and you plan on doing any type of structural work.

Some of these houses also has asbestos in them and yeah definitely a good idea to completely empty out the house prior to commencing renovations.


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QUOTE(Asquith @ Feb 13 2021, 04:12 AM)
Some of these houses also has asbestos in them and yeah definitely a good idea to completely empty out the house prior to commencing renovations.
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My Terasek house will probably need some renovation.

I will probably need to start off with the roof tiles as the house was built late 1970s - although there is no roof leaks at the moment, i suspect it will probably leak in another few years. The only thing is i don't know whether i will be living in the house when i get back to KL as my wife prefers her condo in MK. Now a bit scared to go back to KL as Covid cases still a little high in Msia icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Feb 13 2021, 04:22 AM)
My Terasek house will probably need some renovation.

I will probably need to start off with the roof tiles as the house was built late 1970s - although there is no roof leaks at the moment, i suspect it will probably leak in another few years. The only thing is i don't know whether i will be living in the house when i get back to KL as my wife prefers her condo in MK. Now a bit scared to go back to KL as Covid cases still a little high in Msia  icon_question.gif
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Replacing the roof does make sense. Best to replace it with an insulated metal deck roof.

There is a big shortage of tenants for high end properties. Therefore it might make better sense to live in the best condition property till the economic situation improves.

Numbers are high but but in a place like Bangsar it is fairly safe.
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QUOTE(Asquith @ Feb 13 2021, 04:34 AM)
Replacing the roof does make sense. Best to replace it with an insulated metal deck roof.

There is a big shortage of tenants for high end properties. Therefore it might make better sense to live in the best condition property till the economic situation improves.

Numbers are high but but in a place like Bangsar it is fairly safe.
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When i was last went back to KL in Jan 2020, i had the exterior painted and it costed me rm4k just for the front. I was back in KL for 8 weeks then and saw my neighbour's roof being replaced so i asked the contractor for a quote for my roof and he quoted rm25k-rm30k. He indicated that it will last at least 25 years before i need to start worrying again - i am 59 now so it will last me till i am 84 if i were to live in the terrace.

I actually inspected a 2 bedder terrace (cannot remember the address - i think it was 62 Jalan Terasek) around that time and owner wanted rm1.55mil. Owner wanted to migrate to Melb to be with children. The house was well kept but minimal renovation done. I didn't have the money then as i couldn't access my super - i would have bought it now if i saw something like that again but then my friends and relatives are asking me not to move money back to Msia (unless it is for my own daily expenses). I am now in two minds what to do rclxub.gif .

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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Feb 13 2021, 05:24 AM)
When i was last went back  to KL in Jan 2020, i had the exterior painted and it costed me rm4k just for the front. I was back in KL for 8 weeks then and saw my neighbour's roof being replaced so i asked the contractor for a quote for my roof and he quoted rm25k-rm30k. He indicated that it will last at least 25 years before i need to start worrying again - i am 59 now so it will last me till i am 84 if i were to live in the terrace.

I actually inspected a 2 bedder terrace (cannot remember the address - i think it was 64 Jalan Terasek) around that time and owner wanted rm1.55mil. Owner wanted to migrate to Melb to be with children. The house was well kept but minimal renovation done. I didn't have the money then as i couldn't access my super - i would have bought it now if i saw something like that again but then my friends and relatives are asking me not to move money back to Msia (unless it is for my own daily expenses). I am now in two minds what to do  rclxub.gif .
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I would definitely refrain from sending money here unless you were planning on spending it immediately.

No hurry I suppose for you? Anyway personally with the way the world economic climate is I would certainly put off retirement unless it is a semi retirement.

Yes roofing works are not cheap and with any old houses the electrical and plumbing system would need to be updated as well.


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QUOTE(Divou @ Feb 12 2021, 11:32 AM)
I wouldnt do that. Better to use the money to buy another house. Moreover the house stands out in the neighbourhood and this will definitely going to attract all sorts of unwanted attention.

Near my house also had one such owner of a corner double storey house. The owner demolished the whole house and rebuilt a 3 storey house on the land. During piling works, all the houses same role with mine were badly affected by the noise. The neighbours of that house suffered cracked in their homes but I believe they were compensated but still it wouldnt be the same anyone. After the house was ready, the owner only had a home blessing ceremony. Hardly anyone stays there. Few years later, it was up for auction.
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Sometimes the purpose is to wash money one

Can't spend on actual new property cos lhdn sure pick up, but rather spend on upgrade existing house and interior
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QUOTE(joe_star @ Feb 13 2021, 05:51 AM)
Sometimes the purpose is to wash money one

Can't spend on actual new property cos lhdn sure pick up, but rather spend on upgrade existing house and interior
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Legal approved renovation?
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QUOTE(Asquith @ Feb 13 2021, 05:38 AM)
I would definitely refrain from sending money here unless you were planning on spending it immediately.

No hurry I suppose for you? Anyway personally with the way the world economic climate is I would certainly put off retirement unless it is a semi retirement.

Yes roofing works are not cheap and with any old houses the electrical and plumbing system would need to be updated as well.
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I was given a very good golden handshake to retire after being in the same organisation for 30+ years. I have been hoping to retire sometime early this year so the timing was very good. Now I just need to find things to do - I probably have enough money to live off until I conk off. My wife also has her own retirement assets and we have no kids so we don't have to leave anything to anyone.

Now my goal is to find interesting things to do. I find i have become very kedukut lately because now I have to rely on passive income to live on. She keeps saying my assets will be worth more when I conk than now - I am the typical old chinaman - always very frugal and never want to buy new things.
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QUOTE(ZakStorm @ Feb 13 2021, 06:08 AM)
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anything like that will definitely be legally approved as otherwise dbkl would tear it down before you could even finish building it. Quite different from extending the rear of the house or renovations that alter the facade or the house.

QUOTE(Garysydney @ Feb 13 2021, 06:35 AM)
I was given a very good golden handshake to retire after being in the same organisation for 30+ years. I have been hoping to retire sometime early this year so the timing was very good. Now I just need to find things to do - I probably have enough money to live off until I conk off. My wife also has her own retirement assets and we have no kids so we don't have to leave anything to anyone.

Now my goal is to find interesting things to do. I find i have become very kedukut lately because now I have to rely on passive income to live on. She keeps saying my assets will be worth more when I conk than now - I am the typical old chinaman - always very frugal and never want to buy new things.
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Think that is fairly normal, the older one gets the more you start to look for a value proposition before spending away your money.

Both sets of my grandparents were mostly that way, rarely bought anything new and never threw away anything even if it could no longer be used.

These days as I am about to hit that 40 I do realise that I have become much stingier and prefer to make the money stretch a lot more than just 5 years ago even though I do earn more now than I did 5 years ago.

Alas I doubt I could completely be like my grandparents as the realities of today’s society’s and economy is nothing is made to last and everything is designed to be replaced in a much shorter life cycle.
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QUOTE(Asquith @ Feb 13 2021, 06:54 AM)

These days as I am about to hit that 40 I do realise that I have become much stingier and prefer to make the money stretch a lot more than just 5 years ago even though I do earn more now than I did 5 years ago.
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I think we become frugal due more to insecurity more than anything else. Also Covid has made life a lot more difficult - i am worried about my future investment returns more than anything else!! Most people think with a few million ringgit upon retirement (60 years old) in investments, life is a bed of roses. I am now at that stage now and i am a bit fearful how my future years will turn out. My investments are all moderately balanced (60% risky assets and 40% less risky assets) now - i was invested 100% high risk before the pandemic and one of my superfund dropped 35% in March 2020 (luckily it was my smaller superfund as i have two superfunds). I was shitting in my pants!! I dropped everything to conservative for 2 months (both my superfunds) and lost out a lot as the market rebounded in April/May last year - big mistake on my part. I lost more than A$250 at my lowest point last year March. I have moved all my investment into a balanced position now so i am quite comfortable if there is a market crash again. I used to be very gung-ho and love taking risks before last year's market crash tongue.gif .
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Like the placement of the grill. It make the house uncluttered.

but lost few feet to create the buffer.
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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Feb 13 2021, 07:46 AM)
I think we become frugal due more to insecurity more than anything else. Also Covid has made life a lot more difficult - i am worried about my future investment returns more than anything else!! Most people think with a few million ringgit upon retirement (60 years old) in investments, life is a bed of roses. I am now at that stage now and i am a bit fearful how my future years will turn out. My investments are all moderately balanced (60% risky assets and 40% less risky assets) now - i was invested 100% high risk before the pandemic and one of my superfund dropped 35% in March 2020 (luckily it was my smaller superfund as i have two superfunds). I was shitting in my pants!! I dropped everything to conservative for 2 months (both my superfunds) and lost out a lot as the market rebounded in April/May last year - big mistake on my part. I lost more than A$250 at my lowest point last year March. I have moved all my investment into a balanced position now so i am quite comfortable if there is a market crash again. I used to be very gung-ho and love taking risks before last year's market crash  tongue.gif .
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Lost A$250 or A$250k?
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QUOTE(MGM @ Feb 13 2021, 08:03 AM)
Lost A$250 or A$250k?
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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Feb 13 2021, 07:46 AM)
I think we become frugal due more to insecurity more than anything else. Also Covid has made life a lot more difficult - i am worried about my future investment returns more than anything else!! Most people think with a few million ringgit upon retirement (60 years old) in investments, life is a bed of roses. I am now at that stage now and i am a bit fearful how my future years will turn out. My investments are all moderately balanced (60% risky assets and 40% less risky assets) now - i was invested 100% high risk before the pandemic and one of my superfund dropped 35% in March 2020 (luckily it was my smaller superfund as i have two superfunds). I was shitting in my pants!! I dropped everything to conservative for 2 months (both my superfunds) and lost out a lot as the market rebounded in April/May last year - big mistake on my part. I lost more than A$250 at my lowest point last year March. I have moved all my investment into a balanced position now so i am quite comfortable if there is a market crash again. I used to be very gung-ho and love taking risks before last year's market crash  tongue.gif .
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Difficult to predict how the future would be and it has become a pain to calculate and price risks these days with the way things are going around the world.

These days I am already happy if my investments or business interest does not lose money.

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Why spend so much to renovate instead of just selling the terrace and buy a bungalow instead?
Renovation cost is more expensive than new, and the terrace couldn't add much value anyway.
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Still ok, more like 1 1/2.

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QUOTE(Asquith @ Feb 13 2021, 08:25 AM)
Difficult to predict how the future would be and it has become a pain to calculate and price risks these days with the way things are going around the world.

These days I am already happy if my investments or business interest does not lose money.
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I used a lot more money before Covid because i have a stable job and my investments were all doing very well - made me a bit cocky!! I was telling myself - if my investment returns continues like this when i retire (was planning then to retire early 2021), my passive income will easily be about rm20k-rm30k/mth. How can i finish my money like this as my capital will probably grow higher every year. I was thinking i might need about rm10k/mth for my living costs in KL once i retire (since i don't need to pay rent/mortgage or car loans which are the 2 major expenses for younger people).

Now all shit has blown up once Covid started!! I have never been worried about money before but now Covid makes people scared of running out of money!! The future is so unpredictable now!! I am giving my wife A10k for my retirement present as i have never expected to get a golden handshake. She saw a nice Chanel bag (cost about A$10,500) and wanted to buy it with the A$10k i gave her. I now tell her not to buy the bag as the future is very unpredictable - she is now a bit upset with me tongue.gif !! Can't understand women - why need so many handbags (she already got about 5 Chanel handbags - all very costly eventhough we bought it quite a few years ago. I really cannot understand women doh.gif
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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Feb 13 2021, 07:46 AM)
I think we become frugal due more to insecurity more than anything else. Also Covid has made life a lot more difficult - i am worried about my future investment returns more than anything else!! Most people think with a few million ringgit upon retirement (60 years old) in investments, life is a bed of roses. I am now at that stage now and i am a bit fearful how my future years will turn out. My investments are all moderately balanced (60% risky assets and 40% less risky assets) now - i was invested 100% high risk before the pandemic and one of my superfund dropped 35% in March 2020 (luckily it was my smaller superfund as i have two superfunds). I was shitting in my pants!! I dropped everything to conservative for 2 months (both my superfunds) and lost out a lot as the market rebounded in April/May last year - big mistake on my part. I lost more than A$250 at my lowest point last year March. I have moved all my investment into a balanced position now so i am quite comfortable if there is a market crash again. I used to be very gung-ho and love taking risks before last year's market crash  tongue.gif .
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old but unwise

Left with old wife, no kids

Yet so stingy and cheap

U plan to give to ur wife new boyfriend?



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QUOTE(GodTier @ Feb 13 2021, 09:06 AM)
old but unwise

Left with old wife, no kids

Yet so stingy and cheap

U plan to give to ur wife new boyfriend?
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Don't know - lah. Last time not scared no money but now after Covid, very scared no money - lah. Lsat time very confident but now spend money very scared - loh.

Stupid Covid make people scared!! Now i am at the peak of my net worth - i am worth more now than just before the pandemic but still scared (my golden handshake added quite a lot more to my net worth). I am scared about how future returns on my investments may turn out because it may be negative quite often from now.

I used to think - i will spend all my money before i die but now after Covid, i feel better with more money!! Even when i die and i have more than what i have now, i am happy.

This stupid Covid has made older people very insecure because the future is very unclear now. I am now supposed to be very happy with quite a big retirement nest egg but somehow i don't feel secure so i dare not spend too much. I am more scared about running out of money than getting Covid nowadays!!

Don't know why but i am sure i don't have depression as i still enjoy going out all the time and feel happy when things are not very expensive biggrin.gif !!
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QUOTE(Asquith @ Feb 13 2021, 06:03 AM)
One does not wash money by making it go away.
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Go away how? Money is for what? To improve one's life. By spending it somewhat off the grid they enjoy is fruits without raising official eyebrows

Get it
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Go away how? Money is for what? To improve one's life. By spending it somewhat off the grid they enjoy is fruits without raising official eyebrows

Get it
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When you spend it by buying overpriced renovations the money goes away no? Unless you are similar to that chinaman datuk that did not pay the contractor.

Also it is unlikely you would spend that type of renovation money off grid as you would need an architect and engineering drawing to submit for a planning permit. That alone will cost rm15k and though possible usually unlikely that part is off grid.

Pretty sure if you have that type of money to blow you would not be hiring a few Banglas to do it but most likely an experienced project manager and an ID team especially for something with such a major structural component to it.

This type of stand out renovations bound to raise suspicion along the way of someone in the neighbourhood that could just make a few phone calls. Plenty of busybodies about.
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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Feb 13 2021, 09:26 AM)
Don't know - lah. Last time not scared no money but now after Covid, very scared no money - lah. Lsat time very confident but now spend money very scared - loh.

Don't know why but i am sure i don't have depression as i still enjoy going out all the time and feel happy when things are not very expensive  biggrin.gif !!
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It is normal as no one could predict the true impact of the extended shutting down of so many sectors of the world economy.

There is always something pleasing about finding a good thing that is not too expensive.

Like recently I just found a genuine BMW M635csi from 1986. A bit tatty and in need of an engine rebuild, the widow and her brats let it go for rm20k because it is a LHD car. Now having the engine done up and bringing it back to pristine condition to then sell it on. Think there is at least rm50k profit in it.
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QUOTE(Asquith @ Feb 13 2021, 03:34 PM)

Like recently I just found a genuine BMW M635csi from 1986. A bit tatty and in need of an engine rebuild, the widow and her brats let it go for rm20k because it is a LHD car. Now having the engine done up and bringing it back to pristine condition to then sell it on. Think there is at least rm50k profit in it.
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Wow! Didn't know you are into car restoration. You must know a lot of people in the car industry.

Old man like me only like reliable cars - Toyota is the only car i will buy due to reliability. I would buy a Lexus for prestige but i don't like buying expensive cars (esp new cars) due to high depreciation costs. I used to change cars when younger but now old man already - no-one looks at old and ugly old fags like us anymore sad.gif
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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Feb 14 2021, 04:44 AM)
Wow! Didn't know you are into car restoration. You must know a lot of people in the car industry.

Old man like me only like reliable cars - Toyota is the only car i will buy due to reliability. I would buy a Lexus for prestige but i don't like buying expensive cars (esp new cars) due to high depreciation costs. I used to change cars when younger but now old man already - no-one looks at old and ugly old fags like us anymore sad.gif
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One of my secondary income sources is I am a rebuilder of Jaguar XK and BMC A, B and C series engines as well as a restorer of classic cars, mainly 2 seater British cars.

Only take on 6 engines per year and 1 or 2 cars per year. I do it more as hobby though.

Nothing wrong with not being into cars if it is not your thing. Also definitely not a bad thing to stick to Toyotas when in Australia or Malaysia or most countries outside of EU and China as replacement parts are the easiest to source.

Do you plan on keeping rental properties in Australia after retirement as a source of income?


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QUOTE(Asquith @ Feb 14 2021, 05:10 AM)

Nothing wrong with not being into cars if it is not your thing. Also definitely not a bad thing to stick to Toyotas when in Australia or Malaysia or most countries outside of EU and China as replacement parts are the easiest to source.

Do you plan on keeping rental properties in Australia after retirement as a source of income?
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Sydney property prices hasn't dropped since the pandemic (esp landed properties). I haven't decided to sell so i might just hold on to the property for the time being. My sister tells me not to sell and she wants to buy it if i want to sell.

I have most of my money in super and i don't know if i should buy another cheaper property in Western Sydney. At the moment the Aussie dollar is fairly strong so i don't know if i should buy more ringgit as the Aussie is quite erratic at times.

I finish working at my organisation in mid-March so i will have to get used to living without a regular income (from my employer). My payout from my organisation can easily last me the next 5 years so i will not need to touch my super for a few years. I don't buy anything usually so my only vice is eating out about 4 times a week (Chinatown). Other than than i lead quite a thrifty lifestyle - i never thought i can change so much after the pandemic as i used to spend a lot more before the pandemic (full of confidence without a worry in life!!).
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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Feb 14 2021, 05:59 AM)
Sydney property prices hasn't dropped since the pandemic (esp landed properties). I haven't decided to sell so i might just hold on to the property for the time being. My sister tells me not to sell and she wants to buy it if i want to sell.

I have most of my money in super and i don't know if i should buy another cheaper property in Western Sydney. At the moment the Aussie dollar is fairly strong so i don't know if i should buy more ringgit as the Aussie is quite erratic at times.

I finish working at my organisation in mid-March so i will have to get used to living without a regular income (from my employer). My payout from my organisation can easily last me the next 5 years so i will not need to touch my super for a few years. I don't buy anything usually so my only vice is eating out about 4 times a week (Chinatown). Other than than i lead quite a thrifty lifestyle - i never thought i can change so much after the pandemic as i used to spend a lot more before the pandemic (full of confidence without a worry in life!!).
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I guess 4 times a week at Chinatown is not all that expensive if you earn an Aussie salary.

I probably could save a lot more if I consumed more local cuisines here but generally local foods are not all that palatable to me. Also have a gf that is kind of picky with her food as like many Caucasians she has all kinds of allergies.

I have a close friend that used to make a living from student rentals in Melbourne. She literally bought up an entire row within 10 years just before 2005. Whole street became a PRC neighbourhood as her formula was do nothing but find ways to cram as many beds in that property. Heard from her son now all but 2 of those properties have tenants due to the pandemic. Something she definitely never predicted would be this bad.

I think at this moment in time unless you care for high risks best to just refrain from any major investment decisions till 3rd quarter of 2021 when much of the world would have access to the vaccine and most likely much of the storm would have died down.

Personally, we have been divesting a lot of assets in Malaysia especially our residential properties. It has already reached saturation point and any gains will not be above inflation. Anything sold will be put into agriculture land in England closer to the M25 the better.

Kind of sad to divest off as all of it were purchased by my late grandparents who were 1st generation in then Malaya. They had such big hopes and dreams in the 50s and 60s when they put money towards it but now here am I disposing it off but I have to do what I have got to do.


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I guess 4 times a week at Chinatown is not all that expensive if you earn an Aussie salary.

I probably could save a lot more if I consumed more local cuisines here but generally local foods are not all that palatable to me. Also have a gf that is kind of picky with her food as like many Caucasians she has all kinds of allergies.

I have a close friend that used to make a living from student rentals in Melbourne. She literally bought up an entire row within 10 years just before 2005. Whole street became a PRC neighbourhood as her formula was do nothing but find ways to cram as many beds in that property. Heard from her son now all but 2 of those properties have tenants due to the pandemic. Something she definitely never predicted would be this bad.

I think at this moment in time unless you care for high risks best to just refrain from any major investment decisions till 3rd quarter of 2021 when much of the world would have access to the vaccine and most likely much of the storm would have died down.

Personally, we have been divesting a lot of assets in Malaysia especially our residential properties. It has already reached saturation point and any gains will not be above inflation. Anything sold will be put into agriculture land in England closer to the M25 the better.

Kind of sad to divest off as all of it were purchased by my late grandparents who were 1st generation in then Malaya. They had such big hopes and dreams in the 50s and 60s when they put money towards it but now here am I disposing it off but I have to do what I have got to do.
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Yes - housing to PRC students are all suffering badly.

I have a lot of friends in Chinatown (business people) and they are all suffering because of the lack of PRC students. Chinatown is very near to UTS and Sydney Uni and the students have all gone back to China and cannot return - i got my payout because of a lack of students (ha. ha. guess where i work biggrin.gif ). I initially thought i will get more than A$300k as a payout and it came in about A$50k less. Still okay as my colleagues (with less years than me) all got around A$200k (after tax because long service leave and annual leave is taxable at 32%).

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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Feb 14 2021, 07:44 AM)
Yes - housing to PRC students are all suffering badly.

I have a lot of friends in Chinatown (business people) and they are all suffering because of the lack of PRC students. Chinatown is very near to UTS and Sydney Uni and the students have all gone back to China and cannot return - i got my payout because of a lack of students (ha. ha. guess where i work  biggrin.gif ). I initially thought i will get more than A$300k as a payout and it came in about A$50k less. Still okay as my colleagues (with less years than me) all got around A$200k (after tax because long service leave and annual leave is taxable at 32%).
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I believe many would never return and it does not appear this is an industry that would recover anytime soon.

My dad was a teaching fellow at a uni in Perth. Mainly out of interest rather than for the money.

He decided not to continue for the following academic year as age is catching up and he prefers legal practice more than academics.

They downsized your payout due to the pandemic or you did a miscalculation?
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QUOTE(Asquith @ Feb 14 2021, 04:37 PM)
They downsized your payout due to the pandemic or you did a miscalculation?
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We are paid 3 weeks for every year of service.

The payout has 2 parts:
Severance pay = No pf years service x 3 weeks pay (mostly non-taxable as it was below tax formula threshold)
Long service leave + Annual leave (taxable at 32%)

I have underestimated the amount of tax payable and there is a cap on the number of years service (i based my calculation without realising there is a cap). I was lucky that i have still a lot of long service leave (even though i have taken quite a fair bit in the last 2 years). My annual leave and long service leave totalled about 14 months and my base pay is slightly over the A$100k mark.

I dare not reveal to my colleagues my actual payout figure because my super plus the payout is way over the million dollar mark (Aussie) while most of my colleagues only came out to A$750k. The reason was because my super balance is very much higher than theirs because i have been contributing extra on my super (to the maximum allowed) over the past 12 years. My colleagues were having a good time and were just putting the minimal required in their super - compounding interest makes a big difference!!




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QUOTE(Asquith @ Feb 14 2021, 04:37 PM)
My dad was a teaching fellow at a uni in Perth. Mainly out of interest rather than for the money.

He decided not to continue for the following academic year as age is catching up and he prefers legal practice more than academics.
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Sorry didn't finish my earlier post as i have to go and have a shower.

Fellow's pay is the equivalent to a senior lecturer which in Sydney Uni is about A$150k (base). You get another 17% super on top of that. We had a lot of fellow(s) in my dept but because of Covid, these positions were terminated as the Uni is burning cash like crazy! All contract positions were not renewed since Covid and these were the first people to go (without compensation). I am a permanent staff so i got compensated for leaving tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Feb 14 2021, 06:06 PM)
We are paid 3 weeks for every year of service.

The payout has 2 parts:
Severance pay = No pf years service x 3 weeks pay (mostly non-taxable as it was below tax formula threshold)
Long service leave + Annual leave (taxable at 32%)

I have underestimated the amount of tax payable and there is a cap on the number of years service (i based my calculation without realising there is a cap). I was lucky that i have still a lot of long service leave (even though i have taken quite a fair bit in the last 2 years). My annual leave and long service leave totalled about 14 months and my base pay is slightly over the A$100k mark.

I dare not reveal to my colleagues my actual payout figure because my super plus the payout is way over the million dollar mark (Aussie) while most of my colleagues only came out to A$750k. The reason was because my super balance is very much higher than theirs because i have been contributing extra on my super (to the maximum allowed) over the past 12 years. My colleagues were having a good time and were just putting the minimal required in their super - compounding interest makes a big difference!!
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Does Australia have a state pension system or the superannuation is it? I thought usually the uni would have a retirement scheme that would allow you to draw a monthly pension as well?

Myself my working career has been a bit different from many because EPF I only have 3 years of contribution. However I do have 10 years of paying into CPF and into the German pension scheme due to a technicality when I was employed by a previous employer. Also have 18 years contribution towards UK National Insurance due to employment and owning a business. Thankfully I do have UK Right of Abode and can apply for UK citizenship thanks to a granddad being born in UK and a British citizen. Have not really decided whether to do so or not but I have somewhat decided that Malaysia is just not the place I would like to be and the hobbies I enjoy as well as the lifestyle I prefer are more suited for England or Germany.

QUOTE(Garysydney @ Feb 14 2021, 06:39 PM)
Sorry didn't finish my earlier post as i have to go and have a shower.

Fellow's pay is the equivalent to a senior lecturer which in Sydney Uni is about A$150k (base). You get another 17% super on top of that. We had a lot of fellow(s) in my dept but because of Covid, these positions were terminated as the Uni is burning cash like crazy! All contract positions were not renewed since Covid and these were the first people to go (without compensation). I am a permanent staff so i got compensated for leaving  tongue.gif
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Are you in the academics or administration of the uni?

I can imagine the uni must be burning away its cash reserves like no tomorrow due to this pandemic. Does the uni have any forecast on when their enrolment would improve and get back closer to its peaks?

For my dad's case they were only retaining 2 of the 14 fellows, he was asked to stay on but he decided it was better to make way for younger blood to take on the challenges of 21st century academics.
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QUOTE(Asquith @ Feb 15 2021, 04:06 AM)
Does Australia have a state pension system or the superannuation is it? I thought usually the uni would have a retirement scheme that would allow you to draw a monthly pension as well?

Are you in the academics or administration of the uni?

I can imagine the uni must be burning away its cash reserves like no tomorrow due to this pandemic. Does the uni have any forecast on when their enrolment would improve and get back closer to its peaks?

For my dad's case they were only retaining 2 of the 14 fellows, he was asked to stay on but he decided it was better to make way for younger blood to take on the challenges of 21st century academics.
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Aust has the aged pension and a couple will get it automatically at 67 (about A$700/week for couple on full pension). It is means tested so you must have assets below A$480k (couple) for a full pension. If you have assets between A$480k-A$880k (house you live in is exempt from the test), you get a pro-rata rate. You will not get anything if a couple has more than A$880k in assets because you are considered 'wealthy'.

I intend to live in Msia when i retire and it is very hard to meet the 2 out of 5 years requirement to keep our PR. It is very hard to stay 2 years out of 5 years in Aust esp for an older person. This will probably mean i may have to give up my PR - my wife definitely will not stay here in Aust as she wants to be with her younger sister in KL(2 years younger than my wife).

I am in an administrative/management role (involved in so many projects in my 30+ years in the Uni) - everything from IT support (Level 1-3), Project Management and HR systems support. I have stayed at the same position eventhough i was doing all kinds of unrelated work - one thing is my job is very easy as i have been here so long i know how most of the systems work. If i move higher up, i will need to be moved from a permanent to a contract position. Permanent positions are much more secure as they are the last to be kicked out. My position statement says i am a consultant (ha. ha. fancy title tongue.gif )

The University now is thinking of cutting more staff (forced redundacies) as the future for Universities is very bleak now - they expect PRC students to be reduced by quite a significant amount in the coming few years.

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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Feb 15 2021, 05:08 AM)
Aust has the aged pension and a couple will get it automatically at 67 (about A$700/week for couple on full pension). It is means tested so you must have assets below A$480k (couple) for a full pension. If you have assets between A$480k-A$880k (house you live in is exempt from the test), you get a pro-rata rate. You will not get anything if a couple has more than A$880k in assets because you are considered 'wealthy'.

I intend to live in Msia when i retire and it is very hard to meet the 2 out of 5 years requirement to keep our PR. It is very hard to stay 2 years out of 5 years in Aust esp for an older person. This will probably mean i may have to give up my PR - my wife definitely will not stay here in Aust as she wants to be with her younger sister in KL(2 years younger than my wife).

I am in an administrative/management role (involved in so many projects in my 30+ years in the Uni) - everything from IT support (Level 1-3), Project Management and HR systems support. I have stayed at the same position eventhough i was doing all kinds of unrelated work - one thing is my job is very easy as i have been here so long i know how most of the systems work. If i move higher up, i will need to be moved from a permanent to a contract position. Permanent positions are much more secure as they are the last to be kicked out. My position statement says i am a consultant (ha. ha. fancy title  tongue.gif )

The University now is thinking of cutting more staff (forced redundacies) as the future for Universities is very bleak now - they expect PRC students to be reduced by quite a significant amount in the coming few years.
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I guess you have mostly decided that Malaysia will be your new home. Any particular reason why you never took on Australian citizenship after so many years there?

I came close to giving up my Malaysian citizenship in 2009 to take on British citizenship but decided to hold off as at that time UK was going through a major economic crisis that appeared as if it was set to be game over and Asia was the future which was why I agreed to relocate to Singapore.

Did not realise their pension system is means tested and the threshold to be considered wealthy is relatively low considering income levels.

The uni my dad was a teaching fellow at had its own pension scheme for its academic faculty and a different scheme for its administrative staff. However only their permanent rather than contract staff could participate in it.

Your wife might be in for a surprise that her younger sister does not want her around. That seems to be the case with my mum and her 4 younger sisters. She thought she would spend more time with them but they mostly have different interests and priorities .

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I guess you have mostly decided that Malaysia will be your new home. Any particular reason why you never took on Australian citizenship after so many years there?

I came close to giving up my Malaysian citizenship in 2009 to take on British citizenship but decided to hold off as at that time UK was going through a major economic crisis that appeared as if it was set to be game over and Asia was the future which was why I agreed to relocate to Singapore.

Did not realise their pension system is means tested and the threshold to be considered wealthy is relatively low considering income levels.

The uni my dad was a teaching fellow at had its own pension scheme for its academic faculty and a different scheme for its administrative staff. However only their permanent rather than contract staff could participate in it.

Your wife might be in for a surprise that her younger sister does not want her around. That seems to be the case with my mum and her 4 younger sisters. She thought she would spend more time with them but they mostly have different interests and priorities .
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I have no kids and wanted to leave my options open (like retiring in Msia). If i had kids, most likely i would have taken up Aust citizenship because parents usually want to be around children/grandchildren when we get old.

The pension scheme you are referring to (for your dad) is the defined pension super scheme. I am in that scheme too - you can opt for a pension/lump sum. I am in the NSW State Super Scheme (SASS https://www.statesuper.nsw.gov.au/). I can elect to take a pension for life or opt for a lump sum. A lot of my colleagues are in this scheme and they have elected to take lump sum - you can 'double-dip' if you take the lump sum option. The reason why you can double-dip is because you can blow off (or buy a bigger house as own house is exempt) any excess by keeping your assets around A$480k (couple) so that you can still get the aged pension when you hit 67 biggrin.gif .
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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Feb 15 2021, 06:22 AM)
I have no kids and wanted to leave my options open (like retiring in Msia). If i had kids, most likely i would have taken up Aust citizenship because parents usually want to be around children/grandchildren when we get old.

The pension scheme you are referring to (for your dad) is the defined pension super scheme. I am in that scheme too - you can opt for a pension/lump sum. I am in the NSW State Super Scheme (SASS https://www.statesuper.nsw.gov.au/). I can elect to take a pension for life or opt for a lump sum. A lot of my colleagues are in this scheme and they have elected to take lump sum - you can 'double-dip' if you take the lump sum option. The reason why you can double-dip is because you can blow off (or buy a bigger house as own house is exempt) any excess by keeping your assets around A$480k (couple) so that you can still get the aged pension when you hit 67  biggrin.gif .
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Fascinating on the double dip. Never thought such a loophole could exist within the system.

Have you started disposing and packing items to be repatriated back to Malaysia then?
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Fascinating on the double dip. Never thought such a loophole could exist within the system.

Have you started disposing and packing items to be repatriated back to Malaysia then?
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I wasn't aware of it at all - one of my Msian colleagues (taken up Aust citizenship) worked in HR and told me about 6 years ago before she left (also got payout as she was made redundant). She was just a junior in the Uni and was getting about A$72kyr base then - she had a choice between getting A$910/wk (for life) or taking a lump sum of A$620k. She has been working in the Uni for 30 years and she was 65 years old. She took the lump sum and at that time she wanted to upgrade to a bigger house and go on the pension (govt) after that. At that time, i thought she was crazy but now after many years thinking about it, it makes sense!! If you opt for your own pension (from your own superfund) then you will not be entitled to the govt pension.

I don't have much stuff left in Sydney - my wife has been taking a lot of stuff back each time we went back to KL over the past few years. I will probably give away all my furniture to a good friend who used to work with me at the Uni.

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I am giving my wife A10k for my retirement present as i have never expected to get a golden handshake. She saw a nice Chanel bag (cost about A$10,500) and wanted to buy it with the A$10k i gave her. I now tell her not to buy the bag as the future is very unpredictable - she is now a bit upset with me  tongue.gif !!  Can't understand women - why need so many handbags (she already got about 5 Chanel handbags - all very costly eventhough we bought it quite a few years ago. I really cannot understand women  doh.gif
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Women are like that one. But also the virus has kinda made everyone feel lower than ever. Maybe having the bags gives her a sense of security that everything is still as is. You can either get it for her or take her mind off of it. I can't really say to take a vacation together due to current situations. What I can really say is to possibly cut down on your own expenses and maybe buy the Bag "used" from carousell. Give it to her on your anniversary or some other important date for both of you.

Carousell Aus is still a good place for these kinds of stuff as the younger (read:gullible) people kept buying stuff they can't ultimately afford. You can bring it to a Chanel store to confirm its authenticity. Or buy a new one if she's the type that's very picky on it.

Though losing $250k must have been frustrating for you. But I'll assume most if not all your commitments are cared for prior to that.

PS. Fam member was an avid upcar shoe collector. Buy 50+ odd shoes but never really use em. In the end left the leather to dry rot. doh.gif
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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Feb 15 2021, 06:54 AM)
I wasn't aware of it at all - one of my Msian colleagues (taken up Aust citizenship) worked in HR and told me about 6 years ago before she left (also got payout as she was made redundant). She was just a junior in the Uni and was getting about A$72kyr base then - she had a choice between getting A$910/wk (for life) or taking a lump sum of A$620k. She has been working in the Uni for 30 years and she was 65 years old. She took the lump sum and at that time she wanted to upgrade to a bigger house and go on the pension (govt) after that. At that time, i thought she was crazy but now after many years thinking about it, it makes sense!! If you opt for your own pension (from your own superfund) then you will not be entitled to the govt pension.

I don't have much stuff left in Sydney - my wife has been taking a lot of stuff back each time we went back to KL over the past few years. I will probably give away all my furniture to a good friend who used to work with me at the Uni.
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Interesting though I could not imagine wanting a bigger home in my retirement.

I guess that would make things easier if there is nothing to cart back. Unfortunately that is something I do not know how to manage as there are some things that I just would not sell and could never sell or give it to anyone. One of that thing is the 1965 MGB that used to belong to my late granddad and was given to me by my now passed on grandma. I think I would probably pass it on to one of my kids or hopefully grandkids.
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QUOTE(rtk74 @ Feb 15 2021, 07:07 AM)
Women are like that one. But also the virus has kinda made everyone feel lower than ever. Maybe having the bags gives her a sense of security that everything is still as is. You can either get it for her or take her mind off of it. I can't really say to take a vacation together due to current situations. What I can really say is to possibly cut down on your own expenses and maybe buy the Bag "used" from carousell. Give it to her on your anniversary or some other important date for both of you.

Carousell Aus is still a good place for these kinds of stuff as the younger (read:gullible) people kept buying stuff they can't ultimately afford. You can bring it to a Chanel store to confirm its authenticity. Or buy a new one if she's the type that's very picky on it.

Though losing $250k must have been frustrating for you. But I'll assume most if not all your commitments are cared for prior to that.

PS. Fam member was an avid upcar shoe collector. Buy 50+ odd shoes but never really use em. In the end left the leather to dry rot.  doh.gif
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My wife has already got 5 Chanel bags and 2 Chanel purses (started buying about 20 years ago) doh.gif . I told her even if she has 50 Chanel bags also not enough to satisfy her 'greed'.

I actually promised my wife A$20k angpow but with the condition that my payout is more than A$300k but because my payout was less than A$300k, she only got A$10k ang pow.

I used to have a few Rolex in my younger days (Day/Date, Datejust 2 tone, Submariner) but now i am just wearing a simple Seiko (bought rm650 about 10 years ago). I have sold off/given away to my relatives all my Rolex and i am a simple man who don't crave for designer brands anymore. I can afford these luxuries but i feel i have no more craving anymore (maybe i am getting older now). I look back and saw i had a lot of 'greed' in my earlier days.
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Interesting though I could not imagine wanting a bigger home in my retirement.

I guess that would make things easier if there is nothing to cart back. Unfortunately that is something I do not know how to manage as there are some things that I just would not sell and could never sell or give it to anyone. One of that thing is the 1965 MGB that used to belong to my late granddad and was given to me by my now passed on grandma. I think I would probably pass it on to one of my kids or hopefully grandkids.
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Shit - you have a 1965 MGB? Those kinds of car will sell for a decent amount in Sydney (we have a lot of pommies here who loves their MGs).

I don't like to do housework so i would prefer a smaller place when i get older. In Sydney getting someone to do house cleaning will cost about A$35/hr (minimum 3-4 hours). That is why i like Msia - getting someone in is so much cheaper smile.gif
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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Feb 15 2021, 07:35 AM)
Shit - you have a 1965 MGB? Those kinds of car will sell for a decent amount in Sydney (we have a lot of pommies here who loves their MGs).

I don't like to do housework so i would prefer a smaller place when i get older. In Sydney getting someone to do house cleaning will cost about A$35/hr (minimum 3-4 hours). That is why i like Msia - getting someone in is so much cheaper  smile.gif
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Same here, I am not a housework person and I definitely do not do my fair share of housework. Thankfully I do have a maid that I employed to look after the kids. Unfortunately it has become much more difficult now to find domestic help as many left the country last March/April and the border has been opened for them to return.

Yes, my MGB was bought new in Oxford by my grandparents in 1965, they drove it around UK for a month and then drove it half the world to Kuala Lumpur. I wish I was as adventurous but the last time I brought it to Thailand for a classic car rally I loaded it on a flatbed to be transported to Phuket rather than drove it the entire journey. It underwent a full restoration in 2017 and on average I get asked once a month if I would sell it.
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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Feb 15 2021, 07:27 AM)
My wife has already got 5 Chanel bags and 2 Chanel purses (started buying about 20 years ago)  doh.gif . I told her even if she has 50 Chanel bags also not enough to satisfy her 'greed'.

I actually promised my wife A$20k angpow but with the condition that my payout is more than A$300k but because my payout was less than A$300k, she only got A$10k ang pow.

I used to have a few Rolex in my younger days (Day/Date, Datejust 2 tone, Submariner) but now i am just wearing a simple Seiko (bought rm650 about 10 years ago). I have sold off/given away to my relatives all my Rolex and i am a simple man who don't crave for designer brands anymore. I can afford these luxuries but i feel i have no more craving anymore (maybe i am getting older now). I look back and saw i had a lot of 'greed' in my earlier days.
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Greed isn't all that bad though, it give a sense of motivation to push harder and earn more. But being happy with whatever you have is great as well, taking care of face in front of others is tiring.

And really if you think 5 Chanel bags are bad.... you haven't met my grandma. Thank god ayam put more emphasis on function rather than aesthetics.

inb4 buy her a pasar malam chaplang Channel bag biggrin.gif
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Same here, I am not a housework person and I definitely do not do my fair share of housework. Thankfully I do have a maid that I employed to look after the kids. Unfortunately it has become much more difficult now to find domestic help as many left the country last March/April and the border has been opened for them to return.

Yes, my MGB was bought new in Oxford by my grandparents in 1965, they drove it around UK for a month and then drove it half the world to Kuala Lumpur. I wish I was as adventurous but the last time I brought it to Thailand for a classic car rally I loaded it on a flatbed to be transported to Phuket rather than drove it the entire journey. It underwent a full restoration in 2017 and on average I get asked once a month if I would sell it.
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Your MGB will sell for a motza in Sydney!
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Greed isn't all that bad though, it give a sense of motivation to push harder and earn more. But being happy with whatever you have is great as well, taking care of face in front of others is tiring.

And really if you think 5 Chanel bags are bad.... you haven't met my grandma. Thank god ayam put more emphasis on function rather than aesthetics.

inb4 buy her a pasar malam chaplang Channel bag  biggrin.gif
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When i told my wife angpow may be A$20k if i get more than A$300k in my payout, she took me to see Hermes Birkin bags in the Hermes shop here in Sydney(King/Castlereagh Street corner). Aiyoh doh.gif ! The cheapest handbag there was about A$14k - i only sat on their couch and she spent about half an hour going through all the Birkin selection. There was even a queue to go into the shop as they could only allow in a small number of customers due to Covid restriction. After viewing all the bags, the French salesgirl took us to see all the other Birkin stuff - homewares, furniture, scarfs, etc.. (3 floors in total). Told us we must join their membership (free to join) and once we show we have an interest in Birkin products, we will be given priority when we buy Birkin stuff. Aiyoh. All their stuff have at least four zeros (Aussie) doh.gif .

After that i told my wife to keep the angpow i gave her and buy some bank shares, she wouldn't want to talk to me. I tell her every 6 mths can still get a bit of dividend - she gave me the ugly look!!

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Your MGB will sell for a motza in Sydney!
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I would imagine that it could fetch a pretty penny indeed.

But I could not imagine ever selling it. I could consider leaving it at a museum but never selling it.
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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Feb 15 2021, 08:05 AM)
When i told my wife angpow may be A$20k if i get more than A$300k in my payout, she took me to see Hermes Birkin bags in the Hermes shop here in Sydney(King/Castlereagh Street corner). Aiyoh  doh.gif ! The cheapest handbag there was about A$14k - i only sat on their couch and she spent about half an hour going through all the Birkin selection. There was even a queue to go into the shop as they could only allow in a small number of customers due to Covid restriction. After viewing all the bags, the French salesgirl took us to see all the other Birkin stuff - homewares, furniture, scarfs, etc.. (3 floors in total). Told us we must join their membership (free to join) and once we show we have an interest in Birkin products, we will be given priority when we buy Birkin stuff. Aiyoh. All their stuff have at least four zeros (Aussie)  doh.gif .

After that i told my wife to keep the angpow i gave her and buy some bank shares, she wouldn't want to talk to me. I tell her every 6 mths can still get a bit of dividend - she gave me the ugly look!!
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Sorry but that was funny, she's just sulking biggrin.gif
She's on her track to becum liek bijan's wife?
Chanel ok lah but Birkin... GG
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Sorry but that was funny, she's just sulking  biggrin.gif
She's on her track to becum liek bijan's wife?
Chanel ok lah but Birkin... GG
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That's why - cannot never finish buying loh.

After that, she will ask - why your retirement savings every year so much more extra? Why don't go buy another Birkin?

She bought 2 Classic Chanel bags in 2015 (Jumbo Classic and another called GST model). One was A$6,250 and the other GST was about A$3,500. The GST is no longer being produced and the Jumbo which costs A$6,250 is now selling for about A$12,500. She then challenges me - tell you sure make money before, you don't believe..... Aiyoh doh.gif I told her just because the price has gone up doesn't mean she made money. She kept insisting she has made money!! How to argue like that?
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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Feb 15 2021, 09:15 AM)
That's why - cannot never finish buying loh.

After that, she will ask - why your retirement savings every year so much more extra? Why don't go buy another Birkin?

She bought 2 Classic Chanel bags in 2015 (Jumbo Classic and another called GST model). One was A$6,250 and the other GST was about A$3,500. The GST is no longer being produced and the Jumbo which costs A$6,250 is now selling for about A$12,500. She then challenges me - tell you sure make money before, you don't believe..... Aiyoh  doh.gif  I told her just because the price has gone up doesn't mean she made money. She kept insisting she has made money!! How to argue like that?
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Haven't asked her to sell it?
Bet she'll be furious and annoyed with you throughout the day tongue.gif
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Haven't asked her to sell it?
Bet she'll be furious and annoyed with you throughout the day  tongue.gif
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My wife keeps telling me i will miss the opportunity to make money if i don't 'invest' in these Birkin handbags.

I must say the marketing strategies of these companies like Chanel, Birkin and LV are so powerful into convincing the gullible (like my wife) that there is money to be made by 'investing' in their products. My wife is very argumentative (have a very short fuse) and always like to fell 'atas' (likes to compare with her sister-in-laws) by showing off these bags while i have the 'kedekut Chinaman' attitude (being quite humble with money).

I shouldn't be shedding a 'negative light' on my other half but sometimes i just cannot help bickering about it - i can only console myself and say she is not too bad after all she is a good cook and looks after me pretty well. I must learn to appreciate the positive side of her as we have already been married more than 30+ years. Sometimes we have to accept life is full of interesting lessons to learn bangwall.gif

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This is exactly what i have told her - in Sydney it is very safe to carry expensive handbags (like Chanel and Birkin) but we will be retiring in KL soon. This is inviting trouble into our lives. I prefer to live with a low-profile lifestyle but she likes to show off a little. I find she has low confidence in herself and needs to maintain an elevated image of herself to feel comfortable. On the other hand, i tend to keep 'low-key' (after all being rich is only important if you have all the important ingredients of wisdom inside you).

Now with this pandemic, i feel happier by sharing my wealth with the lesser-offs by helping the poor. When i walk along George Street in the city, i usually give A$2-A$3 (coins) to those homeless lying on the streets. A few times, i have no coins so i give them A$5 (note). I get a lot more happiness by sharing with the needy rather than flaunting my wealth to my friends esp now with Covid raging in our lives.

Don't know what happened to me tonight - digging out all my inner secrets of my life in social media!! tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Feb 15 2021, 09:15 AM)
That's why - cannot never finish buying loh.

After that, she will ask - why your retirement savings every year so much more extra? Why don't go buy another Birkin?

She bought 2 Classic Chanel bags in 2015 (Jumbo Classic and another called GST model). One was A$6,250 and the other GST was about A$3,500. The GST is no longer being produced and the Jumbo which costs A$6,250 is now selling for about A$12,500. She then challenges me - tell you sure make money before, you don't believe..... Aiyoh  doh.gif  I told her just because the price has gone up doesn't mean she made money. She kept insisting she has made money!! How to argue like that?
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My ex wife was very much into Chanel bags. I used to scold the heck out of her for even wanting to pay that much for a bag.

She would argue the same thing that the bag after 3 years can sell and she would get back her money.

What she never said or knew was in order for it to get good money it needs to be taken good care off and need to be spa-ed twice per year.
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My ex wife was very much into Chanel bags. I used to scold the heck out of her for even wanting to pay that much for a bag.

She would argue the same thing that the bag after 3 years can sell and she would get back her money.

What she never said or knew was in order for it to get good money it needs to be taken good care off and need to be spa-ed twice per year.
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Yes - the bag has got to be in mint condition to fetch a good price.

If you have to go through someone else to sell it, you will have to pay an agent's fee (usually at least 25-40%). A lot of shops will take your bag and place ii under consignment which means you only get paid when they manage to find a buyer. Some bags can be under consignment for a few years until the seller decides not to sell anymore because they are already fed up by then!! So this hype about bags being sold for 30-50% more than their original price is all a myth. Chanel, Birkin and LV uses these kinds of hype to entice their buyers - i must say it is a very good marketing strategy!!

I tried explaining it to my wife but she counters me by comparing this with men buying cars (and in the process lose even more money). She is trying to justify women are much more wiser than men as women loses less on handbags than men (as men tends to waste money on cars!).

How to argue like this doh.gif ?
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Yes - the bag has got to be in mint condition to fetch a good price.

If you have to go through someone else to sell it, you will have to pay an agent's fee (usually at least 25-40%). A lot of shops will take your bag and place ii under consignment which means you only get paid when they manage to find a buyer. Some bags can be under consignment for a few years until the seller decides not to sell anymore because they are already fed up by then!! So this hype about bags being sold for 30-50% more than their original price is all a myth. Chanel, Birkin and LV uses these kinds of hype to entice their buyers - i must say it is a very good marketing strategy!!

I tried explaining it to my wife but she counters me by comparing this with men buying cars (and in the process lose even more money). She is trying to justify women are much more wiser than men as women loses less on handbags than men (as men tends to waste money on cars!).

How to argue like this  doh.gif ?
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I did a study on this issue. I found that much of the hype on these bags selling for more than their new price tend to have 1 thing in common. The previous owner was a well known celebrity. Anyone else's bag? You can ask but most likely you would not receive.

Cars? Well it depends on what type of cars.
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I did a study on this issue. I found that much of the hype on these bags selling for more than their new price tend to have 1 thing in common. The previous owner was a well known celebrity. Anyone else's bag? You can ask but most likely you would not receive.

Cars? Well it depends on what type of cars.
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Definitely agree with you. My wife is already 59 (same age as me) and act like a young kid when it comes to handbags!! On other things she is quite sensible when using money but when it comes to handbags, she goes crazy.

In Sydney there are a lot of people involved in restoring old cars - in my area i see a lot of people doing it in their backyards. I don't know much about car restorations so i can't comment much. I see an old Rolls Royce Silver Spirit (probably around 1984) in someone's backyard near my place but that guy has not done anything yet (been sitting there for about 15 mths).
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Definitely agree with you. My wife is already 59 (same age as me) and act like a young kid when it comes to handbags!! On other things she is quite sensible when using money but when it comes to handbags, she goes crazy.

In Sydney there are a lot of people involved in restoring old cars - in my area i see a lot of people doing it in their backyards. I don't know much about car restorations so i can't comment much. I see an old Rolls Royce Silver Spirit (probably around 1984) in someone's backyard near my place but that guy has not done anything yet (been sitting there for about 15 mths).
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Everyone has their vices I suppose? Sometimes these vices are how people motivate themselves or use it as a means to treat themselves.

Many people are indeed getting into this hobby these days. That 1980s Rolls for example is a good point of entry because these cars are worth very little on the open market. If it is a Silver Spirit in UK you could pick one up for under 500 quid and most likely roadworthy condition though in a tired state. There is someone in Bangsar that offered me to take away a 1982 Silver Spur that had not been driven for 20 odd years. I of course gave him the wide berth. Probably cost upwards of 200 times what it is worth to put right.

Most likely that guy person near your place is sourcing for some of the major parts and trying to do so on the cheap.
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Everyone has their vices I suppose? Sometimes these vices are how people motivate themselves or use it as a means to treat themselves.

Many people are indeed getting into this hobby these days. That 1980s Rolls for example is a good point of entry because these cars are worth very little on the open market. If it is a Silver Spirit in UK you could pick one up for under 500 quid and most likely roadworthy condition though in a tired state. There is someone in Bangsar that offered me to take away a 1982 Silver Spur that had not been driven for 20 odd years. I of course gave him the wide berth. Probably cost upwards of 200 times what it is worth to put right.

Most likely that guy person near your place is sourcing for some of the major parts and trying to do so on the cheap.
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Yes - you are probably right. I don't see that car being driven at all but the car looks very cool!!

Over here in Sydney, there are quite a lot of cool cars. Due to the pandemic and having to stay at home a lot more, i have been looking at car reviews (which i don't normally do) of Porches and Maserati. There are a few things that i haven't done since my younger days and looking at car reviews is one of them but lately with the pandemic, i have been spending a lot of time on my laptop. Covid has changed quite a lot of things in my life (having to stay home more) - luckily financially i have come out quite well off (due to the payout). I see a lot of poor souls struggling financially nowadays and there are so many street beggars in the city nowadays!! Very sad.
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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Feb 16 2021, 06:40 AM)
Yes - you are probably right. I don't see that car being driven at all but the car looks very cool!!

Over here in Sydney, there are quite a lot of cool cars. Due to the pandemic and having to stay at home a lot more, i have been looking at car reviews (which i don't normally do) of Porches and Maserati. There are a few things that i haven't done since my younger days and looking at car reviews is one of them but lately with the pandemic, i have been spending a lot of time on my laptop. Covid has changed quite a lot of things in my life (having to stay home more) - luckily financially i have come out quite well off (due to the payout). I see a lot of poor souls struggling financially nowadays and there are so many street beggars in the city nowadays!! Very sad.
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RRs are not easy cars to maintain and operate unless you have deep pockets. Older ones are not the easiest to repair unless you are mechanically minded and it requires a certain craftsman mechanic to work on it if you want to keep it in pristine original condition.

Yes Covid changed a lot of things in our life. Many of us need to wake up to new realities. Myself, my family has 2 operational petrol stations that I am the main PIC. The reality of it is people are struggling. I have close family that are struggling, some asks for lifelines but not all can be helped or rather I feel most of them do not deserve any help as many asks for jobs and when you give them a job they start taking the piss.
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RRs are not easy cars to maintain and operate unless you have deep pockets. Older ones are not the easiest to repair unless you are mechanically minded and it requires a certain craftsman mechanic to work on it if you want to keep it in pristine original condition.

Yes Covid changed a lot of things in our life. Many of us need to wake up to new realities. Myself, my family has 2 operational petrol stations that I am the main PIC. The reality of it is people are struggling. I have close family that are struggling, some asks for lifelines but not all can be helped or rather I feel most of them do not deserve any help as many asks for jobs and when you give them a job they start taking the piss.
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Yes - i didn't realise family members are a big burden in Msia. Only found out in the last couple of years.

I have 3 siblings in Sydney (aged 65, 73 and one deceased) and all are doing okay (one is on the aged pension while the other is quite wealthy).

I have 4 siblings in KL and they seem to be all struggling (though they are all 70+). I give them a little (like a few hundred ringgit once every few weeks) and they all look to me like hungry chicks. They were all financially quite okay 10-15 years ago. Two of them have children but never dare ask their children for money - probably feel malu (or maybe feel siblings are better to rip off). Two of them are on their own.

Helping close family seems to be a way of life in Msia - might have to polish my skills to say no when relatives ask for money in future when i retire in KL biggrin.gif .
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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Feb 16 2021, 08:19 AM)
Yes - i didn't realise family members are a big burden in Msia. Only found out in the last couple of years.

I have 3 siblings in Sydney (aged 65, 73 and one deceased) and all are doing okay (one is on the aged pension while the other is quite wealthy).

I have 4 siblings in KL and they seem to be all struggling (though they are all 70+). I give them a little (like a few hundred ringgit once every few weeks) and they all look to me like hungry chicks. They were all financially quite okay 10-15 years ago. Two of them have children but never dare ask their children for money - probably feel malu (or maybe feel siblings are better to rip off). Two of them are on their own.

Helping close family seems to be a way of life in Msia - might have to polish my skills to say no when relatives ask for money in future when i retire in KL  biggrin.gif .
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You do have a fair few siblings.

I have 3 younger sisters myself, the elder one together with her husband and 2 kids are now living in our parents' house. The 2nd is the one that tries but never makes it. The youngest is the spoiled brat and no idea why even the husband can be a spoiled brat.

I have got to that point where if you want me to help you need to show how you have helped yourself first and especially what you have cut back on, otherwise you are on your own as it really becomes a money pit.
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You do have a fair few siblings.

I have 3 younger sisters myself, the elder one together with her husband and 2 kids are now living in our parents' house. The 2nd is the one that tries but never makes it. The youngest is the spoiled brat and no idea why even the husband can be a spoiled brat.

I have got to that point where if you want me to help you need to show how you have helped yourself first and especially what you have cut back on, otherwise you are on your own as it really becomes a money pit.
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My deceased mum left me quite a lot of inheritance and told me my only obligation is to help my 71 y.o. sister who is unmarried.

I try to help others wherever possible as I have quite a generous personality.


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My deceased mum left me quite a lot of inheritance and told me my only obligation is to help my 71 y.o. sister who is unmarried.

I try to help others wherever possible as I have quite a generous personality.
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I wonder if my aunt knows your sister.

My late grandma prior to her passing passed on around 70% of the family wealth to me and told me to take care of the 4 aunts as the eldest who is 71 and a widow without a kid, the 2nd now a widow lost the only kid and husband to leukaemia, while the younger 2 never married. Thing is all 4 of them have more than they know what to do with their money as the eldest her deceased husband left her land and a quarry, the 2nd is a retired headmistress, the 3rd was a deputy public prosecutor and the youngest used to be a diplomatic officer. All have sizeable monthly income or pensions that they do not want any help.

Myself and generous? My mum used to say am worst than a chetty. I guess am not the type that likes to help people that much when I know they have not helped themselves first.
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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Feb 12 2021, 11:17 AM)
depends on local zoning, yes. This isn't full 1 storey so confirm pass mia

Here in Cheras we can build up to 4 storey even provided foundations are rated for it.
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I wonder if my aunt knows your sister.

My late grandma prior to her passing passed on around 70% of the family wealth to me and told me to take care of the 4 aunts as the eldest who is 71 and a widow without a kid, the 2nd now a widow lost the only kid and husband to leukaemia, while the younger 2 never married. Thing is all 4 of them have more than they know what to do with their money as the eldest her deceased husband left her land and a quarry, the 2nd is a retired headmistress, the 3rd was a deputy public prosecutor and the youngest used to be a diplomatic officer. All have sizeable monthly income or pensions that they do not want any help.

Myself and generous? My mum used to say am worst than a chetty. I guess am not the type that likes to help people that much when I know they have not helped themselves first.
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Wow. Your aunts are all quite well to do.

My sister never goes out of the house except to get food and never socialise with neighbours - i am the one who goes around chatting with all my neighbours (when i am back in Bangsar on holidays). I love to socialise esp during morning walks, i tend to chat with other people. The only thing is previously i was only back in KL for about 6-8 weeks (2-3 times a year) so the time spent in KL wasn't enough to really know people.

You were mentioning that you restore cars - where do you keep all your cars that you are restoring? Do you have a special place for keeping the cars?


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Wow. Your aunts are all quite well to do.

My sister never goes out of the house except to get food and never socialise with neighbours - i am the one who goes around chatting with all my neighbours (when i am back in Bangsar on holidays). I love to socialise esp during morning walks, i tend to chat with other people. The only thing is previously i was only back in KL for about 6-8 weeks (2-3 times a year) so the time spent in KL wasn't enough to really know people.

You were mentioning that you restore cars - where do you keep all your cars that you are restoring? Do you have a special place for keeping the cars?
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Cars that are undergoing restoration? Depends on what stage they are at and how major a restoration.

The MGB for example, the car was stripped to the bare shell at my late grandma's house which has an underground 5 car car garage. The body shell was then placed on a flat bed and sent to Thailand where it was acid washed, underwent its usual welding and rustproofing before it was painted as a ready to reassemble shell.

The engine and gearbox, I brought in rebuild kits from England and did it at that garage. The car was reassembled at the same garage and the interior retrim was done by someone that flew in from England, only had to redo the seats, dashboards and door cards as the wood was still in good condition.

That car ever since it was finished is always parked at that house under the main foyer.

Other cars? Currently that 5 car garage is used to store cars that are being preserved in its original form as 2 years ago I updated that garage to have a wood floor and climate control.

The ones that are being restored I now do it at a light industrial shop as unlike the MGB that was done primarily by hand tools only these days I tend to rely more on powered tools.
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QUOTE(Asquith @ Feb 16 2021, 02:36 PM)
Cars that are undergoing restoration? Depends on what stage they are at and how major a restoration.

The MGB for example, the car was stripped to the bare shell at my late grandma's house which has an underground 5 car car garage. The body shell was then placed on a flat bed and sent to Thailand where it was acid washed, underwent its usual welding and rustproofing before it was painted as a ready to reassemble shell.

The engine and gearbox, I brought in rebuild kits from England and did it at that garage. The car was reassembled at the same garage and the interior retrim was done by someone that flew in from England, only had to redo the seats, dashboards and door cards as the wood was still in good condition.

That car ever since it was finished is always parked at that house under the main foyer.

Other cars? Currently that 5 car garage is used to store cars that are being preserved in its original form as 2 years ago I updated that garage to have a wood floor and climate control.

The ones that are being restored I now do it at a light industrial shop as unlike the MGB that was done primarily by hand tools only these days I tend to rely more on powered tools.
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Shit! You must know your cars very well.

I can't imagine myself doing all that at my age. Kudos to you rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Feb 16 2021, 03:07 PM)
Shit! You must know your cars very well.

I can't imagine myself doing all that at my age. Kudos to you  rclxms.gif
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Older cars are not difficult to work with as have to remember these were mostly cars that were made by men rather than machines.

Also they were designed to be repaired therefore it is fairly easy to learn how to restore them if you are somewhat mechanically inclined.

I always say if you can unhook a bra you could fix a car.
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Older cars are not difficult to work with as have to remember these were mostly cars that were made by men rather than machines.

Also they were designed to be repaired therefore it is fairly easy to learn how to restore them if you are somewhat mechanically inclined.

I always say if you can unhook a bra you could fix a car.
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Good to know you are in the car restoration business - if in future, there may be people looking for contacts in a new import/export car restoration project, i will know who to contact thumbsup.gif
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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Feb 12 2021, 11:17 AM)
depends on local zoning, yes. This isn't full 1 storey so confirm pass mia

Here in Cheras we can build up to 4 storey even provided foundations are rated for it.
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Is impossible as DBKL wouldn't allow anything more than 3 stories..You can build but will never get approval or CCC
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QUOTE(Divou @ Feb 12 2021, 11:32 AM)
I wouldnt do that. Better to use the money to buy another house. Moreover the house stands out in the neighbourhood and this will definitely going to attract all sorts of unwanted attention.

Near my house also had one such owner of a corner double storey house. The owner demolished the whole house and rebuilt a 3 storey house on the land. During piling works, all the houses same role with mine were badly affected by the noise. The neighbours of that house suffered cracked in their homes but I believe they were compensated but still it wouldnt be the same anyone. After the house was ready, the owner only had a home blessing ceremony. Hardly anyone stays there. Few years later, it was up for auction.
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FYI, local authorities will request the architect of the owner to submit a dilap report prior to start work..
1. For damages: Owner has to repair
2. Noise: Permissible working hour is usually up to 6pm..Monday to Sat. Noise in any case is unavoidable even for small reno. However if is really disturbing for wtv reason u can first take it to the owner and then to the local authorities..Some council even request for certain piling methods (example micropile which will reduce the noise considerabily but is expensive)

Whether is money well spent for the owner is a diff story..can elaborate on it later
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QUOTE(Revoz @ Feb 12 2021, 08:36 PM)
Depends on helang or pipit.

If helang approve.
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As a guide, 1 storey can become 2 ..(1 cannot become 3)
.2 can become 3.

3 is max
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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Feb 13 2021, 04:22 AM)
My Terasek house will probably need some renovation.

I will probably need to start off with the roof tiles as the house was built late 1970s - although there is no roof leaks at the moment, i suspect it will probably leak in another few years. The only thing is i don't know whether i will be living in the house when i get back to KL as my wife prefers her condo in MK. Now a bit scared to go back to KL as Covid cases still a little high in Msia  icon_question.gif
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Terasek in bangsar? Yeah they all pretty old..Some of the wooden roof truss even got attacked by termites.

But that area (and TTDI) is an enclave for complete house make overs..Some are really very outstanding ... biggrin.gif

Basically it boils down to : 1) budget 2) taste....of these neighbourhoods
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Terasek in bangsar? Yeah they all pretty old..Some of the wooden roof truss even got attacked by termites.

But that area (and TTDI) is an enclave for complete house make overs..Some are really very outstanding ... biggrin.gif

Basically it boils down to : 1) budget 2) taste....of these neighbourhoods
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Ya - loh.

All the wooden frames on the door frames have to be changed. Even the toilet doors were rotting

The wood on the roof seems okay as someone came to check the water tank guy and he mentioned the wood is still quite solid.

Roof tiles have been there since late 1970s so probably needs to be replaced.

A lot of my neighbours still have not done any renovation on their houses - they keep the houses neat and tidy but they are all mainly old people. Cannot see younger people at all on my street - all the residents seem to be old folks smile.gif
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QUOTE(hten @ Feb 17 2021, 10:57 AM)
Terasek in bangsar? Yeah they all pretty old..Some of the wooden roof truss even got attacked by termites.

But that area (and TTDI) is an enclave for complete house make overs..Some are really very outstanding ... biggrin.gif

Basically it boils down to : 1) budget 2) taste....of these neighbourhoods
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Yes, these 2 areas are a haven for makeovers as DBKL planning policies tend to be fairly lenient if you approach the correct people.

Many of these houses are now passed on to the 2nd generation of the original owner therefore the person that financed the renovations tend to have bigger budgets which usually translates to better renovations.

QUOTE(Garysydney @ Feb 17 2021, 11:10 AM)
Ya - loh.

All the wooden frames on the door frames have to be changed. Even the toilet doors were rotting

The wood on the roof seems okay as someone came to check the water tank guy and he mentioned the wood is still quite solid.

Roof tiles have been there since late 1970s so probably needs to be replaced.

A lot of my neighbours still have not done any renovation on their houses - they keep the houses neat and tidy but they are all mainly old people. Cannot see younger people at all on my street - all the residents seem to be old folks  smile.gif
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Bangsar is an ageing neighbourhood. Not sure why it has thus far failed to retain a younger crowd in its residential areas. Generally the same story for the condos as well as other than Nadi and Gaya much of them tend to be occupied by 40s or above residents. Quite different from the KLCC area condo I call my main residence as most tend to be in their low to mid 30s.

Roof truss tend to be made from stronger wood than those used for door frames and I was once told many contractors treated it with diesel as a termite treatment and acts as one of the best vapour barrier.
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QUOTE(Asquith @ Feb 17 2021, 11:21 AM)
Yes, these 2 areas are a haven for makeovers as DBKL planning policies tend to be fairly lenient if you approach the correct people.

Many of these houses are now passed on to the 2nd generation of the original owner therefore the person that financed the renovations tend to have bigger budgets which usually translates to better renovations.
Bangsar is an ageing neighbourhood. Not sure why it has thus far failed to retain a younger crowd in its residential areas. Generally the same story for the condos as well as other than Nadi and Gaya much of them tend to be occupied by 40s or above residents. Quite different from the KLCC area condo I call my main residence as most tend to be in their low to mid 30s.

Roof truss tend to be made from stronger wood than those used for door frames and I was once told many contractors treated it with diesel as a termite treatment and acts as one of the best vapour barrier.
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Not quite sure what s the real demographic there, but i do know a young couple who recently bought a two storey house there n plan to have a complete make over.

But u r prolly right..most younger group tend to prefer condo over landed. Security is always the biggest issue.
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QUOTE(Asquith @ Feb 17 2021, 11:21 AM)
Yes, these 2 areas are a haven for makeovers as DBKL planning policies tend to be fairly lenient if you approach the correct people.

Many of these houses are now passed on to the 2nd generation of the original owner therefore the person that financed the renovations tend to have bigger budgets which usually translates to better renovations.
Bangsar is an ageing neighbourhood. Not sure why it has thus far failed to retain a younger crowd in its residential areas. Generally the same story for the condos as well as other than Nadi and Gaya much of them tend to be occupied by 40s or above residents. Quite different from the KLCC area condo I call my main residence as most tend to be in their low to mid 30s.
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Actually i like Sri Penaga opposite Bangsar Shopping Complex - looked at a smaller apartment in there and the compound is beautiful. Looks like the price has dropped quite a fair bit there (judging from asking prices in iProperty) since 12 months ago.

I was thinking of investing in another condo once i retire but now with the outlook in Malaysia looking so bleak, i am having second thoughts rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Feb 17 2021, 12:17 PM)
Actually i like Sri Penaga opposite Bangsar Shopping Complex - looked at a smaller apartment in there and the compound is beautiful. Looks like the price has dropped quite a fair bit there (judging from asking prices in iProperty) since 12 months ago.

I was thinking of investing in another condo once i retire but now with the outlook in Malaysia looking so bleak, i am having second thoughts  rclxub.gif
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Do you mind me asking what is your expected monthly expenses if you are to stay in Malaysia?
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QUOTE(hten @ Feb 17 2021, 10:44 AM)
Is impossible as DBKL wouldn't allow anything more than 3 stories..You can build but will never get approval or CCC
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I believe the regulations have changed in the last couple of years. I can confirm this as firstly I talked to the owner and secondly I did work on some plans for new development. 4 storey is the max permitted... that is OFFICIALLY permitted. Malaysia being Malaysia if you grease the right palms you can do 50 storeys no problem but that's a little out of topic...

KL is growing more developed and we will see many high rises soon in addition to what is already here. I admit I have mixed feelings as I like the kampung feel of the old KL.
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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Feb 17 2021, 12:17 PM)
Actually i like Sri Penaga opposite Bangsar Shopping Complex - looked at a smaller apartment in there and the compound is beautiful. Looks like the price has dropped quite a fair bit there (judging from asking prices in iProperty) since 12 months ago.

I was thinking of investing in another condo once i retire but now with the outlook in Malaysia looking so bleak, i am having second thoughts  rclxub.gif
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Good ones are still upwards of RM900 per sqft though. A bit expensive unless it is a very nicely maintained unit.

The issue with buying such an old condo as a form of investment is it will never be a positive cash flow investment and capital appreciation is now below rate of inflation.
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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Feb 17 2021, 12:17 PM)
Actually i like Sri Penaga opposite Bangsar Shopping Complex - looked at a smaller apartment in there and the compound is beautiful. Looks like the price has dropped quite a fair bit there (judging from asking prices in iProperty) since 12 months ago.

I was thinking of investing in another condo once i retire but now with the outlook in Malaysia looking so bleak, i am having second thoughts  rclxub.gif
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Spoonfeed me a little. Price and sqft?
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Do you mind me asking what is your expected monthly expenses if you are to stay in Malaysia?
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I think i will need about rm10k/mth for me and my wife. We won't need to pay rent/mortgage and car loan - just need money for food/groceries, fuel and utilities. Possibly budget a bit for helping siblings.

I don't know if rm10k/mth will be sufficient as we are quite thrifty.
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Spoonfeed me a little. Price and sqft?
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I inspected one unit asking for rm1.01mil (1033 sqf) in Jan 2020 - unit was renovated slightly but facing Jalan Maarof so a bit of traffic noise. Cannot remember what floor - i remember it was quite high up. I suspect this property will go for rm900k at most now.

The gardens were beautiful and swimming pools were quite impressive. Quite an 'atas' feel tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Feb 17 2021, 03:19 PM)
I inspected one unit asking for rm1.01mil (1033 sqf) in Jan 2020 - unit was renovated slightly but facing Jalan Maarof so a bit of traffic noise. Cannot remember what floor - i remember it was quite high up. I suspect this property will go for rm900k at most now.

The gardens were beautiful and swimming pools were quite impressive. Quite an 'atas' feel  tongue.gif
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Thanks

Bangsar might be worth it to live in, not sure about investment. Most Msian "condos" are ruined by the people inside, so sometimes you end up paying more if you want to stay in a place where the people take care of stuff...
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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Feb 17 2021, 02:58 PM)
I believe the regulations have changed in the last couple of years. I can confirm this as firstly I talked to the owner and secondly I did work on some plans for new development. 4 storey is the max permitted... that is OFFICIALLY permitted. Malaysia being Malaysia if you grease the right palms you can do 50 storeys no problem but that's a little out of topic...

KL is growing more developed and we will see many high rises soon in addition to what is already here. I admit I have mixed feelings as I like the kampung feel of the old KL.
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DBKL regulations are usually in line with most other PBTs.

4 storeys is now the max hence places such as East Residence could exist.

However when it comes to renovating, then at most you could build a half storey only.

The main difference however with DBKL is they tend to be a bit more lenient as to what constitutes a half storey.

I wish KL had better density and planning controls.
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QUOTE(Asquith @ Feb 17 2021, 03:34 PM)
DBKL regulations are usually in line with most other PBTs.

4 storeys is now the max hence places such as East Residence could exist.

However when it comes to renovating, then at most you could build a half storey only.

The main difference however with DBKL is they tend to be a bit more lenient as to what constitutes a half storey.

I wish KL had better density and planning controls.
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Yes it's true though that the 2 cases I mentioned were either full reconstruction or new build

When it comes to renovating it depends on the foundation works. Many 2 storey are built with tolerance for 3 storey (such as mine). So that's the max DBKL will allow for reno of that particular house. At least that's what I was told...

Yeah well we all know who's to blame for the high rises mushrooming everywhere and loss of so many green lungs vmad.gif
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Thanks

Bangsar might be worth it to live in, not sure about investment. Most Msian "condos" are ruined by the people inside, so sometimes you end up paying more if you want to stay in a place where the people take care of stuff...
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The rental market for the higher end is not good at all at the moment. My wife has a 3+1 condo in MK which we used to get rm6k/mth a few years ago but the condo has been empty since Jan 2020. It is a very nice unit but we didn't get any serious offers until Oct/Nov 2020 - the offers we got were around rm4k but were private leases (which my wife detest) and they had so many conditions in their offers (move furniture around, remove blinds, install mosquito net, want single queen instead of 2 single beds,etc...). My wife is very fussy with her selection of tenants so rejected those who put too many conditions in their offers and usually not even look at those offers. We have only been renting out to corporate tenants (Uniglo especially) before this but Uniglo has been cutting their expat staff last year since Covid. We pull the unit off the market in Nov 2020 because my wife wanted it for her own use when we retire soon.

We have another 1 bedder in MK that is rented out for rm1,600 (maintenance rm220). That unit is quite easily rented out and our current tenant is a good paymaster.

We don't owe any money on our units so we are quite happy just leaving it empty smile.gif
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Legal or not?

Or depends on local govt?

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kena apply to change 1 storey to 2 storey
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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Feb 12 2021, 11:17 AM)
depends on local zoning, yes. This isn't full 1 storey so confirm pass mia

Here in Cheras we can build up to 4 storey even provided foundations are rated for it.
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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Feb 17 2021, 03:11 PM)
I think i will need about rm10k/mth for me and my wife. We won't need to pay rent/mortgage and car loan - just need money for food/groceries, fuel and utilities. Possibly budget a bit for helping siblings.

I don't know if rm10k/mth will be sufficient as we are quite thrifty.
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Should be sufficient if you spend wisely. Since you have the budget already, you have to account for inflation of say 2% p.a. and then work out how long can your current funds last you. I think if you can get 30 years you should be safe already


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QUOTE(icehart85 @ Feb 17 2021, 10:19 PM)
Should be sufficient if you spend wisely. Since you have the budget already, you have to account for inflation of say 2% p.a. and then work out how long can your current funds last you. I think if you can get 30 years you should be safe already
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Thanks for your comments.

I think i should be able to quite easily last 30 years with what i have. A small component of the budget was for holidays every now and then but with Covid raging, i suspect holidays will be out of the equation for at least the next couple of years as international borders will still be closed.

Funny how in 2017, i discovered and joined LYN and i thought i will use this forum to get a better understanding what a retirement in KL would cost for me and my wife. After going back to KL twice/thrice a year over the last few years, i am finally able to get a rough estimate of a retirement cost in KL now. Before then, i totally had no clue about retirement costs in KL as i had been living in Sydney for more than 30+ years now (as an overseas students first and then getting my PR in 1989).

Covid has made a lot of old folks change their retirement plans due to the uncertainties in the future and we have to plan for any eventualities by having a bit more in our retirement nest egg biggrin.gif
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Actually i like Sri Penaga opposite Bangsar Shopping Complex - looked at a smaller apartment in there and the compound is beautiful. Looks like the price has dropped quite a fair bit there (judging from asking prices in iProperty) since 12 months ago.

I was thinking of investing in another condo once i retire but now with the outlook in Malaysia looking so bleak, i am having second thoughts  rclxub.gif
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I once owned one of those units, did it up nicely and thoroughly enjoyed the few years I lived there. Nice pool, lush gardens and landscaping. Management team and security (guards were all Nepalese then don't know now) were excellent.

Some things to consider if you do decide to grab one - make sure water piping has been changed from GI, the 2nd bathroom has no window so need adequate vent fan to prevent mold, there's a long AC piping run from the compressor to the master unit, need to have good quality copper piping which is a pain in the ass to replace else you will need frequent gas topups.
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QUOTE(subliminal_dreams @ Feb 18 2021, 02:46 AM)
I once owned one of those units, did it up nicely and thoroughly enjoyed the few years I lived there. Nice pool, lush gardens and landscaping. Management team and security (guards were all Nepalese then don't know now) were excellent.

Some things to consider if you do decide to grab one - make sure water piping has been changed from GI, the 2nd bathroom has no window so need adequate vent fan to prevent mold, there's a long AC piping run from the compressor to the master unit, need to have good quality copper piping which is a pain in the ass to replace else you will need frequent gas topups.
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Yes - i must admit that the unit i had a look at, the toilets were a bit outdated and you can smell a bit of dampness. The floor had wooden floorboards but unit was very bright (faces north). The most impressive area in the whole complex is the swimming pool area with the trees all around it. When i was inspecting, all those around the pool area were westerners and there is also a little mini-market next to the pool (very handy).

The only problem now is the rental market (upper end) is very soft so unless you are very desperate (and drop the rental), you may find your unit empty for quite a while. This is not a very nice position to be as you still have to pay the maintenance. Unless the expat market picks up (very unlikely this year), investing in upper-end condos (Bangsar and MK) may need to be put off for a while.
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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Feb 17 2021, 03:11 PM)
I think i will need about rm10k/mth for me and my wife. We won't need to pay rent/mortgage and car loan - just need money for food/groceries, fuel and utilities. Possibly budget a bit for helping siblings.

I don't know if rm10k/mth will be sufficient as we are quite thrifty.
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BTW, hope you do not mind.

Am in the midst of speaking to someone from Holland who would like to retire in Malaysia. Husband and wife without any kids.

Could you please tell me how did you reach that RM10k per month figure? What components does it entail?
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QUOTE(Asquith @ Feb 18 2021, 04:37 AM)
BTW, hope you do not mind.

Am in the midst of speaking to someone from Holland who would like to retire in Malaysia. Husband and wife without any kids.

Could you please tell me how did you reach that RM10k per month figure? What components does it entail?
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Just finished my breakfast.

I am allocating half of rm10k/mth to food (groceries/meat/vege/fruits) and eating out. The more you eat out the less home cooking you will need (so less meat and vege) - rm5k/mth

Utilities (unify??, electricity, mobile phones (wife and myself), Indah water/Selangor water, DBKL assesment) - rm1,800/mth (MK condo is about rm500/mth maintenance and rm270 electricity)

Car running costs (fuel, road tax/insurance, touch and go, car wash) - rm390/mth

Personal hygiene (new clothes, shoes, shaver) - rm 100

House repairs (maintenance of condo interior, new fridge/appliances, plumbers, electricians) - rm 500

All the above comes to about rm9k/mth.

I am also planning to buy a new Toyota Vios or Altis when i go back - we only need one car for us as my wife hates to drive.

I have not actually live long term in KL and cannot tell if the above may be realistic or not biggrin.gif

Anyone care to comment?
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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Feb 18 2021, 05:48 AM)
Just finished my breakfast.

I am allocating half of rm10k/mth to food (groceries/meat/vege/fruits) and eating out. The more you eat out the less home cooking you will need (so less meat and vege) - rm5k/mth

Utilities (unify??, electricity, mobile phones (wife and myself), Indah water/Selangor water, DBKL assesment) - rm1,800/mth (MK condo is about rm500/mth maintenance and rm270 electricity)

Car running costs (fuel, road tax/insurance, touch and go, car wash) - rm390/mth

Personal hygiene (new clothes, shoes, shaver) - rm 100

House repairs (maintenance of condo interior, new fridge/appliances, plumbers, electricians) - rm 500

All the above comes to about rm9k/mth.

I am also planning to buy a new Toyota Vios or Altis when i go back - we only need one car for us as my wife hates to drive.

I have not actually live long term in KL and cannot tell if the above may be realistic or not  biggrin.gif

Anyone care to comment?
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Are you sure you and your wife can go through RM5k per month on food or have you future priced it as well?
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QUOTE(Asquith @ Feb 18 2021, 06:31 AM)
Are you sure you and your wife can go through RM5k per month on food or have you future priced it as well?
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I am a retiree and my only vice is food. I would probably eat out a fair bit and i will probably have my sister(s) join me. When i am on holidays in KL, I used to eat out with 3 of us at air-conditioned restaurants (Ming Rm BSC, Antipodean Bangsar Baru, Din Tai Fung Mid-Valley, Imperial Grand BSC) and it normally costs rm100-rm130 for lunch. Say we go out 3 or 4 times a week to eat outside, that would come out to be about rm500/week or rm2k/mth. I think to budget rm5k/mth is quite realistic as my wife sometimes like to buy sea cucumber/seafood to cook. Also, i am always the one to foot the bill when other relatives join us for meals. When i am on my own, i will usually eat at kopitiam or the cheaper end meals but when i am with my wife (she hates hot places as we have lived in Sydney for 30+ years), we will probably eat at better restaurants.

I have been analysing people's expenditure in /k and i have observe most people spend about 35-40% of their month expenditure on mortgage/rent and car loans. I won't have these 2 on my expenditure lists.

Is there anything else i might have missed out on my expenditure list? I haven't actually stayed for long in KL each time i go back so i am only guessing this may be my expenses.

In Sydney, i currently need about A$40k-A$50k/yr (no overseas travel) for my current lifestyle.

This post has been edited by Garysydney: Feb 18 2021, 07:11 AM
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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Feb 18 2021, 07:05 AM)
I am a retiree and my only vice is food. I would probably eat out a fair bit and i will probably have my sister(s) join me. When i am on holidays in KL, I used to eat out with 3 of us at air-conditioned restaurants (Ming Rm BSC, Antipodean Bangsar Baru, Din Tai Fung Mid-Valley, Imperial Grand BSC) and it normally costs rm100-rm130 for lunch. Say we go out 3 or 4 times a week to eat outside, that would come out to be about rm500/week or rm2k/mth. I think to budget rm5k/mth is quite realistic as my wife sometimes like to buy sea cucumber/seafood to cook. Also, i am always the one to foot the bill when other relatives join us for meals. When i am on my own, i will usually eat at kopitiam or the cheaper end meals but when i am with my wife (she hates hot places as we have lived in Sydney for 30+ years), we will probably eat at better restaurants.

I have been analysing people's expenditure in /k and i have observe most people spend about 35-40% of their month expenditure on mortgage/rent and car loans. I won't have these 2 on my expenditure lists.

Is there anything else i might have missed out on my expenditure list? I haven't actually stayed for long in KL each time i go back so i am only guessing this may be my expenses.

In Sydney, i currently need about A$40k-A$50k/yr (no overseas travel) for my current lifestyle.
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You might want to factor in medical bills especially for checkups. I doubt your wife would like going through our infamously inefficient government clinics or hospitals.
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QUOTE(Asquith @ Feb 18 2021, 07:25 AM)
You might want to factor in medical bills especially for checkups. I doubt your wife would like going through our infamously inefficient government clinics or hospitals.
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I think we will be using the private hospitals - unlikely we will be using govt hospitals.

I haven't factored in medical expenses - this will have to come out of my contingency fund, i guess. At the moment, we are very healthy with no real health issues but we can never really tell. Health problems will definitely increase and creep up upon us when we least expect it smile.gif
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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Feb 18 2021, 07:45 AM)
I think we will be using the private hospitals - unlikely we will be using govt hospitals.

I haven't factored in medical expenses - this will have to come out of my contingency fund, i guess. At the moment, we are very healthy with no real health issues but we can never really tell. Health problems will definitely increase and creep up upon us when we least expect it  smile.gif
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U still can depend on Oz for medical. Surely u r not uprooting from Oz.
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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Feb 18 2021, 07:45 AM)
I think we will be using the private hospitals - unlikely we will be using govt hospitals.

I haven't factored in medical expenses - this will have to come out of my contingency fund, i guess. At the moment, we are very healthy with no real health issues but we can never really tell. Health problems will definitely increase and creep up upon us when we least expect it  smile.gif
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Currently I hire a certain British gentleman that is a pensioner to help me with some of my car restorations as well as to help with the upkeep of my late grandma's house. He is now 72, I do not charge him any rent as he does the upkeep for me in return. He gets around RM2.5k depending on the sterling exchange rate in state pension. I pay him around RM1.5k each month for the works I ask him to do and he does have one "Sweet Young Thing" that he is married to that works for one of my petrol stations.

He seems to get by alright since no rental to pay. Seems to enjoy his life here as well but I guess he is probably different from you in the sense that his food bills are really low.


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QUOTE(MGM @ Feb 18 2021, 08:03 AM)
U still can depend on Oz for medical. Surely u r not uprooting from Oz.
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In Aust, to keep your PR we have to live here 2 years out of 5 years. It is quite hard to maintain the PR (especially when we become older) as my wife doesn't want to come back to Sydney with me so i might eventually lose my PR.

People tell me I am so stupid to give up my PR when people are trying so hard to get it bangwall.gif
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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Feb 18 2021, 08:55 AM)
In Aust, to keep your PR we have to live here 2 years out of 5 years. It is quite hard to maintain the PR (especially when we become older) as my wife doesn't want to come back to Sydney with me so i might eventually lose my PR.

People tell me I am so stupid to give up my PR when people are trying so hard to get it  bangwall.gif
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Ok i see, moreover u dont have children in Oz.
So need to spend ~5 months /year in Oz to keep PR.
Can always take up citizenship n come back using MM2H.

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QUOTE(Asquith @ Feb 18 2021, 08:16 AM)
Currently I hire a certain British gentleman that is a pensioner to help me with some of my car restorations as well as to help with the upkeep of my late grandma's house. He is now 72, I do not charge him any rent as he does the upkeep for me in return. He gets around RM2.5k depending on the sterling exchange rate in state pension. I pay him around RM1.5k each month for the works I ask him to do and he does  have one "Sweet Young Thing" that he is married to that works for one of my petrol stations.

He seems to get by alright since no rental to pay. Seems to enjoy his life here as well but I guess he is probably different from you in the sense that his food bills are really low.
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Malaysia is very good for retirement - it is a lot cheaper compared to other countries. You got so many choices to choose from - i see people in KL living with less than rm2k/mth supporting kids as well. Wow!! You get cheaper food as well as high-end food as well.

If it is not because of this Covid, Malaysia is a paradise for retirees!! rclxm9.gif

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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Feb 18 2021, 09:02 AM)
Malaysia is very good for retirement - it is a lot cheaper compared to other countries. You got so many choices to choose from  - i see people in KL living with less than rm2k/mth supporting kids as well. Wow!! You get cheaper food as well as high-end food as well.

If it is not because of this Covid, Malaysia is a paradise for retirees!!  rclxm9.gif
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Yes there are a lot of expats and MM2H applicants before the covid pandemic and yeah you really do get more bang for your buck expenses wise. It is paradise compared to other countries.


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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Feb 17 2021, 02:58 PM)
I believe the regulations have changed in the last couple of years. I can confirm this as firstly I talked to the owner and secondly I did work on some plans for new development. 4 storey is the max permitted... that is OFFICIALLY permitted. Malaysia being Malaysia if you grease the right palms you can do 50 storeys no problem but that's a little out of topic...

KL is growing more developed and we will see many high rises soon in addition to what is already here. I admit I have mixed feelings as I like the kampung feel of the old KL.
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Not for renovations (i.e extg houses)... IF you are referring to a new development then yes..wtv stories u want based on ht control and density
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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Feb 17 2021, 04:01 PM)
Yes it's true though that the 2 cases I mentioned were either full reconstruction or new build

When it comes to renovating it depends on the foundation works. Many 2 storey are built with tolerance for 3 storey (such as mine). So that's the max DBKL will allow for reno of that particular house. At least that's what I was told...

Yeah well we all know who's to blame for the high rises mushrooming everywhere and loss of so many green lungs vmad.gif
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Is not quite correct to say many houses are built for tolerance for additional floors.. In fact i would say is wrong to say that.

An engineer would always design with a safety tolerance such as additional loadings, but never for additional floor. To me adding floor is a very major construction..is not like lego when u can suka2 just stack..

And thats the problem with renovations nowadays..ppl get 'advised' wrongly by hear say or contractors and ended up having problems with the house such as cracks and leaks...Best is get a proper architect/engineer to advise
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QUOTE(hten @ Feb 22 2021, 06:12 PM)
Is not quite correct to say many houses are built for tolerance for additional floors.. In fact i would say is wrong to say that.

An engineer would always design with a safety tolerance such as additional loadings, but never for additional floor. To me adding floor is a very major construction..is not like lego when u can suka2 just stack..

And thats the problem with renovations nowadays..ppl get 'advised' wrongly by hear say or contractors and ended up having problems with the house such as cracks and leaks...Best is get a proper architect/engineer to advise
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Of course it's not like Lego I agree. Well this is what I've heard from people in property developer line in my family, and from close friends too. All about tolerances of this and that.

Of course if push tolerance to limit then will have risks and minor faults also. I understand nothing is an exact science. But yeah... when it comes to zoning then things have changed somewhat in KL.

I do miss the kampung atmosphere sad.gif but I don't want to move to suburbs. I like KL smile.gif

 

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