Till date I have never held back in ascension.

The world always seems too easy and I look forward to next WL to be greeted by not any much more difficult enemies. BUT at WL7 onwards the drops are so good.

Other than exp books and such, I think I spent most of my time killing cubes and regisvines, get a lot of fodder artifacts and occasional good ones.

The thing is people (GI players in general) are too focused on artifacts when all they need is a 4 (or better 5) star artifacts with the right main stats.

My Albedo uses 2x 3-star artifacts but the damage he does is 5 digits range on crit.



Want to be optimal also depends on luck and quite tiresome in doing the runs.

I aim for balance between optimal and shitty. LOL. As long as clears everything fast and well, that's great!

Generally the game's pretty easy until AR35 or 40. After that, you need to start using a bit tactics to KO monsters. But of course if you have bulldozers like Diluc, Keqing or Razor, can still bulldoze your way through most things. So, for people who are already familiar with the reactions & mechanics, the contents are a breeze all the way till end game.

I was referring to optimal gameplay, not optimal builds. Optimal builds definitely need either patience or RNGesus blessings to get good stuffs. I noticed his decision to stay in lower World Level & focus on 4* artifact hunting, those choices ain't optimal at all. Genshin is mainly a resource management game after all. If played optimally, his team power will catapult sky high at AR45 when 5* hunting begins.

just focus on keqing, max her weapon, max her artifact but dont need to farm. just use whatever u have. bennett and xinqiu are both gay support but dont focus on too many hero. ascend your world lvl as much as possible, better loots. when you are focusing on 1 hero, things will be easy. dont even bother leveling up those 3 stars weapons, get those free 4 starts prototype if you dont have lion's roar.

dealing massive element dmg is fun to play, but if you dont focus on 1 hero now. you will be regret, low world rank, lousier drops, waste more resin and you will be slower. unless u enjoy being slower then its okay since theres nth much to do in end game for now.

once u have one healer in team, solve all the open world healing problem. but once u tasted a shield, you dont even heal running around in open world. some easier abyss can be done without needing a healer, just strong shield like zhongli diona or maybe min heal from xingqiu.

This post has been edited by klthor: Mar 23 2021, 02:02 PM

yeah, resources and time management. low WR bosses/mobs drop lower quality ascension material. meaning he will need to spend more time/resin on farming materials needed.

im blessed with an early razor, just hantam everything with physical dmg. seldom need to use my Q.

sometimes its boring and need to be patient not to farm artifacts. but it doesnt hurt to start doing it once everyday from lvl40 onwards if he doesnt already have a good 4* cup for keqing (physical/electro)

i do headr some one likes to chilll, lvl up characters and doesnt care about end game but just enjoy the story line.

Any Venti players here?
Does he need Energy Recharge timepiece for consistent Q uptime or his base Energy Recharge with A6 Talent are sufficient already?

I have about 167% ER, and I get Q recharged consistently. E>Q immediately, then E again after cooldown.
Assuming a lot of enemy(at least 3) and venti is always on field.

I'm at level 80 ascension max.

This post has been edited by ryuzaki_L: Mar 23 2021, 03:47 PM

yes, i have zhongli but ... i'm lazy cast so many skill, i'm just brutally start fight... fighting against time to finish the route cos zhongli cast time abit slow, imagine if every 1- 2 battle cast and mining ... that like consume extra 20-30minute in total.... maybe i'm just tired wanna finish up everything fast and watch drama

maybe everyday almost same make me start bored with limited resin... only thing i like now is farm artifact which make me happy abit hahaha

This post has been edited by eluna: Mar 23 2021, 04:08 PM

So I'm guessing we're look for 150% ER at least for a more consistent Q.

Your E is just a single tap or a hold? I find that his after cast delay for E is kinda long & he often get punched to death after using E (tap). So far, I'm using him as a resistance shredder with 4 VV set. Swapped him in to shred, then dies cause unable to swap him out immediately

Tap E only
Lol, cast E with some distance should be able to avoid being punched😂😂😂

Yea, new Venti player here. Still trying to get a hang of his animations & delays
As a supporter, I'd probably bring him up to A5 Lvl 70 only. Saving resources to A6 Lvl 80 my DPS.

Even at AR35 - 40 I was using Beidou, when WL change usually it's slightly tougher but very far from being overwhelming, and monsters more skills and hit harder that's all.

Just don't face tank everything la.

My only challenge when hit WL5 was Oceanid, suddenly flyers appear. It's not that it's tougher against my characters either but rather I have no proper anti-air.

Mine got 207% ER. Both bow and sand with ER stat. His Q is full all the time, just need to wait cd.

But he is extremely soft tho.... Yesterday got 1 shoted by the lawachurl duo at that windblume challenge. My vv set very less hp and def stat...

This post has been edited by Si kutu rayau: Mar 23 2021, 04:49 PM

lol... then just walk pass them -.- i normally do that when im lazy haha

Will require some strategy & tactic lo if don't wanna face tank everything. Those without tactics & plans will feel a bit overwhelming when face tanking enemies the way they've been doing since AR10.

No proper anti-air is indeed one of the reason people dislike Oceanid. Another top reason is she waste a lot of time talking & sinking platforms lol. Lucky her new voice sounds a bit sexy.

200% ER is pretty high already, it's like the ideal number for quick swap teams.
I'm just trying to decide if I need to invest into ER Timepiece or not. My Venti will be using The Stringless or Windblum Ode. So no Energy Recharge on the weapon. Seeing that we need like 150% ER to have more consistent uptime for Q, that'll most probably means I need to invest into ER Timepiece.

Depends what level you plan to level up. I think his ER is about 130 without artifact or weapon. If your artifact got sub stat ER should easily gets 150

I was Beidou main so I have bad habit of face tanking because counter is fun!




Yeah I had to build up Fischl for that.

Even now my anti-oceanid change already.

My Diona is 200%+
Xingqiu and Xiangling at 170%.

Really good to have ER fast.

Good point, I'll probably bring him up to A5 Lvl 70 only. Will decide how to level the artifacts when I reach that stage. I noticed his Ascension bonuses & talent is ER related. So that's why I'm holding on to see what's his base ER number is like before leveling his artifacts too soon.

unless you are min-maxing, it should be fine. just put ER sands if you dont have lots of ER substats, or atk sands if you do. It's always nice to have ult ready especially in floor 11 and you dont have jean.

I'm running with ~170% ER pretty much ult off cd. Probably not in floor 11 la, but not sure since i dont really use him a lot nowadays

This post has been edited by zilch28: Mar 23 2021, 06:22 PM

Owhh yeaaa.....i'm still fooling around with him in the Over World. So, I totally forgot the main reason I even build him in the 1st place i.e. to beat up those craps in that Engulfing Storm Floor before they can even lift a finger. Looks like it'll be +20 ER Timepiece then!