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TSCygnusLeo
post Feb 1 2021, 02:07 PM, updated 5y ago

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Hi guys, I just recently got my Perodua Axia aircon compressor magnetic clutch replaced, because it's spoiled already.
The workshop charged me RM335 for the part (not original part) and RM50 for the labour cost. hmm.gif

I understand workshops usually mark-up the prices of spare parts to increase their profit margins, but I need to know if I kena cutthroat ady or is it a fair price to pay ~RM380 to replace aircon compressor magnetic clutch / magnetic coil. blink.gif

If I really kena cutthroat, how much should it actually cost?

Any mechanics or experienced car owners can shed some light on this?
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post Feb 1 2021, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(CygnusLeo @ Feb 1 2021, 02:07 PM)
Hi guys, I just recently got my Perodua Axia aircon compressor magnetic clutch replaced, because it's spoiled already.
The workshop charged me RM335 for the part (not original part) and RM50 for the labour cost.  hmm.gif

I understand workshops usually mark-up the prices of spare parts to increase their profit margins, but I need to know if I kena cutthroat ady or is it a fair price to pay ~RM380 to replace aircon compressor magnetic clutch / magnetic coil. blink.gif

If I really kena cutthroat, how much should it actually cost?

Any mechanics or experienced car owners can shed some light on this?
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What is the issue with your aircond in the first place ? If overfill gas also can trip/sabotage the aircond compressor so they can claim the clutch broken.
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post Feb 1 2021, 02:21 PM

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should calculate this way, part rm100, labour 280

Malaysia culture don't appreciate labour, I think that's why the bill come as clutch 300 labour 50

This post has been edited by fireballs: Feb 1 2021, 02:25 PM
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post Feb 1 2021, 02:25 PM

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go ask at sparepart shop how much the magnetic coil cost. From there u know how much profit the workshop makes.
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post Feb 1 2021, 02:27 PM

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A NEW compressor for small car like Axia would probably cost just as much?
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post Feb 1 2021, 02:33 PM

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My honda city, rm280, 3rd party part. All in. 2 years ago was in KL
TSCygnusLeo
post Feb 1 2021, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(waghyu @ Feb 1 2021, 02:14 PM)
What is the issue with your aircond in the first place ? If overfill gas also can trip/sabotage the aircond compressor so they can claim the clutch broken.
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The clutch memang broken ady. Magnetic power is very weak. Gas wasn't overfilled before.
Since 1 week ago, my car takes about 5 to 10 mins of engine running for the aircon to start blowing cool air. Already wanted to service aircond soon, but mana tau today the aircon just stopped blowing cool air.
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post Feb 1 2021, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(fireballs @ Feb 1 2021, 02:21 PM)
should calculate this way, part rm100, labour 280

Malaysia culture don't appreciate labour, I think that's why the bill come as clutch 300 labour 50
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I actually don't mind the labour cost to be RM200+ if they can be upfront about it though.
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post Feb 1 2021, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(svchia78 @ Feb 1 2021, 02:27 PM)
A NEW compressor for small car like Axia would probably cost just as much?
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Then I guess they put me on the chopping board and butchered me ady
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post Feb 1 2021, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(cempedaklife @ Feb 1 2021, 02:33 PM)
My honda city, rm280, 3rd party part. All in. 2 years ago was in KL
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I see... lesson learnt. moneyflies.gif
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post Feb 1 2021, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(CygnusLeo @ Feb 1 2021, 02:36 PM)
I actually don't mind the labour cost to be RM200+ if they can be upfront about it though.
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Well.. lazada say the clutch is rm100
But the amount of time spent to troubleshoot, take apart
The guy probably used 2 hours at least.
So consider labour rm100 per hour lah
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post Feb 1 2021, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(fireballs @ Feb 1 2021, 02:41 PM)
Well.. lazada say the clutch is rm100
But the amount of time spent to troubleshoot, take apart
The guy probably used 2 hours at least.
So consider labour rm100 per hour lah
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True, took two hours+ to finish fixing it.
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post Feb 1 2021, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(CygnusLeo @ Feb 1 2021, 02:38 PM)
Then I guess they put me on the chopping board and butchered me ady
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No lah... a new one probably will cost RM450+++. But for a non-original part? I would rather go brand new....

Many are "mechanics" that do not know anything more than just putting/ assemblying the compressor with other parts of the aircond system. That means they only see/ know the obvious - joining up the connectors.

Just like the people at "authorised" service centres. Most are just oil-changers.




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post Feb 1 2021, 07:56 PM

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Depends on the spare part. If aftermarket/3rd pary part, sounds expensive. If original Perodua part, understandable and within reason.
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post Feb 2 2021, 10:27 AM

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You are lucky he said to change magnetic clutch only. He could have tried telling you to change whole compressor. That would cost even more.

You might have overpaid a little but it's okay if the job is completed nicely. Reasonable would be RM260-RM300 for everything.
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post Feb 2 2021, 11:26 AM

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Years ago when I drove my ex Wira with a weak compressor, I brought my car to this old man:
Syarikat International Cooler

located in Taman Bahagia PJ.

He did the entire compressor overhaul job - Not simply slap in a recond compressor.
Honest and willing old man. Though it is a long job - take days to complete. Because it is he alone doing the job.

And he charge me around RM 400 if I recall.
Yes. Complete overhaul. Use back the compressor. I think it included replacing the magnetic clutch.

These days hard to find honest mechanic. Most of them all out to butcher its customers with no mercy. Best to search in FB and read other people's comment before commiting.

This post has been edited by SleeplessEyes: Feb 2 2021, 11:28 AM
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post Feb 2 2021, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(SleeplessEyes @ Feb 2 2021, 12:26 PM)
Years ago when I drove my ex Wira with a weak compressor, I brought my car to this old man:
Syarikat International Cooler

located in Taman Bahagia PJ.

He did the entire compressor overhaul job - Not simply slap in a recond compressor.
Honest and willing old man. Though it is a long job - take days to complete. Because it is he alone doing the job.

And he charge me around RM 400 if I recall.
Yes. Complete overhaul. Use back the compressor. I think it included replacing the magnetic clutch.

These days hard to find honest mechanic. Most of them all out to butcher its customers with no mercy. Best to search in FB and read other people's comment before commiting.
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Old type wira if not mistaken is using piston type compressor. It is easier to fix and repair compare to rotary or swash plate compressor type.
From what i know, most newer car compressor type already using rotary or swash plate compressor type due to lighter and fuel efficient.
But the catch is newer type compressor repair cost is not cheap and cannot last long thus why most A/C shop did not recommend to repair modern type compressor.

This post has been edited by littlefire: Feb 2 2021, 12:33 PM
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post Feb 2 2021, 03:12 PM

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Part 100, labour 150, gas + oil 50, balance CNY/MCO surcharge (whichever way u prefer).

That'll make TS feel better.
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post Feb 2 2021, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(littlefire @ Feb 2 2021, 12:32 PM)
Old type wira if not mistaken is using piston type compressor. It is easier to fix and repair compare to rotary or swash plate compressor type.
From what i know, most newer car compressor type already using rotary or swash plate compressor type due to lighter and fuel efficient.
But the catch is newer type compressor repair cost is not cheap and cannot last long thus why most A/C shop did not recommend to repair modern type compressor.
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This I cannot comment, because now I myself driving the Axia after I sold the Wira.
So far touch wood, 83K, aircond still alright - cause I always put my temperature 1/4 (or 10 o'clock position) .

CygnusLeo
A quick survey on Axia magnetic clutch price, sad to say, your mechanic has succesfully potong you 9 9.

Perodua Axia Magnetic Clutch - RM 89.

OK lah, lets say he bought the thing at RM 89, sold to you at RM 335 .
Thats a 276% markup shakehead.gif

I dont mind, if I buy at RM 89, and then he charge me workmanship RM 150 instead of RM 50.

For RM 335, can buy new compressor liao, this one not bullshitting.
https://shopee.com.my/Aircond-Compressor-SD...4056.4239666687

I helped you, limit the price to max RM 400 in Shopee:
https://shopee.com.my/search?keyword=axia%2...ion=true&page=0
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QUOTE(SleeplessEyes @ Feb 2 2021, 04:15 PM)
This I cannot comment, because now I myself driving the Axia after I sold the Wira.
So far touch wood, 83K, aircond still alright - cause I always put my temperature 1/4 (or 10 o'clock position) .

CygnusLeo
A quick survey on Axia magnetic clutch price, sad to say, your mechanic has succesfully potong you 9 9.

Perodua Axia Magnetic Clutch - RM 89.

OK lah, lets say he bought the thing at RM 89, sold to you at RM 335 .
Thats a 276% markup  shakehead.gif

I dont mind, if I buy at RM 89, and then he charge me workmanship RM 150 instead of RM 50.

For RM 335, can buy new compressor liao, this one not bullshitting.
https://shopee.com.my/Aircond-Compressor-SD...4056.4239666687

I helped you, limit the price to max RM 400 in Shopee:
https://shopee.com.my/search?keyword=axia%2...ion=true&page=0
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I believe the compressor need to take out to change the magnetic clutch and later reinstall back & replenish the gas.
The refill gas itself is not cheap tho, nowadays also need at least RM50~80 depending on area.

Besides that if the A/C shop might provide warranty, usually will also mark up higher in case of anything happen within the warranty period.
Mark up price usually at least 50~100%

If you ask me RM335 with refill gas, workmanship and warranty given should be able to justify, unless no warranty given then higher a bit.

100 - Magnetic Clutch
50 - Workmanship
50 - Gas replenish
Total Cost - 200
Warranty mark up 50% - 100 + 200 = 300
include tax or additional charges around 10% = Around 330

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