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post Apr 7 2023, 08:56 AM

 
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QUOTE(nick.remember.u @ Apr 6 2023, 10:30 AM)
Received increase premium reminder, rm150/monthly extra.

is it worth to increase?

Above picture my current insurance.

Im looking for unlimited medical card.
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For additional rm150/month, you may want to consider upgrade to a better medical plan instead of increase the premium of current plan.
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post Apr 11 2023, 08:35 AM

 
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QUOTE(contestchris @ Apr 11 2023, 01:25 AM)
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Anyone experienced with Great Eastern ILP, can shed some light on the bid/offer prices on their website?

I'm curious to know what does "offer" price refer to, and when it is used.

Correct me if I am wrong, but by my observation, when units are purchased/sold, they are done at the bid price. So when does the offer price come into play?
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You sure you are buying the unit at bid price?
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post Apr 28 2023, 08:06 AM

 
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QUOTE(jimmy G @ Apr 28 2023, 07:43 AM)
i have a question, i upgraded my plan a year back and was told i need to keep my old plan during "transition".
It has some investment link plan in it any idea when usually i can get it back. my agent wasn't really able to give me a timeframe.
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For my case (GE), received the fund within 10 working days after submitted the termination.

This post has been edited by poweredbydiscuz: Apr 28 2023, 08:19 AM
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post Apr 28 2023, 08:39 AM

 
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QUOTE(jimmy G @ Apr 28 2023, 07:43 AM)
i have a question, i upgraded my plan a year back and was told i need to keep my old plan during "transition".
It has some investment link plan in it any idea when usually i can get it back. my agent wasn't really able to give me a timeframe.
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Btw, you don't "need" to keep the old plan, but since new plan will not cover certain conditions during the first few months, the agent want you to keep the old plan in case anything happens during these few months and you can't claim the new plan yet.

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post Jun 9 2023, 11:40 AM

 
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QUOTE(netcrawler @ Jun 9 2023, 11:00 AM)
Thanks for reply...as i reckon withdraw all cash bonus and surviving benefit and put into EPF would get better return rather than leaving it in the policy.
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Never tot of withdrawing the cash bonus until saw your post.

I just check the GE website and they mention cash bonus interest rate is 4.4%.
https://www.greateasternlife.com/my/en/pers...er-service.html

Wonder if I should withdraw it too.
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post Jul 6 2023, 03:06 PM

 
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QUOTE(BrookLes @ Jul 6 2023, 02:49 PM)
Will just reply back to you that in this thread, you guys prove my point.

Dun want to create more tension at this point. But anyone with eyes can see already.

And there are probably a few who start to wake up as seen by the reply.

The answer you could have given to me is yes, no, dunno and if yes, give me a rough idea of such a plan etc.

And the irony is, so far you never provided any. And even if you dun like me, you can also provide those answers anyway for the benefit of the others and to prove that I am an "asshole".

I guess there are probably some insurance agents that probably gaslight themselves into thinking they are helping others in other parts of the world. But. Unfortunately just not in Malaysia.
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QUOTE(BrookLes @ Jul 6 2023, 02:51 PM)
Of course I just started work. But already at the highest tax bracket. Must be an achievement right?

And looking at this logic, typical Malaysian iq really.

Super basic but no one provided me with the answer but a non insurance agent.

Actually looking at just that 1 reply towards me, I did contribute. But you guys make yourself look bad that's all.
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QUOTE(BrookLes @ Jul 6 2023, 02:54 PM)
Obviously when I said cheat, I was saying cheating "legally" like that also dunno eh.

I never said he was a criminal did I
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QUOTE(BrookLes @ Jul 6 2023, 02:56 PM)
My qtn is very basic and very simple actually if you really really know what you are doing instead of trying to just grab money from others.
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Please use multi-quote when replying to multiple posts.

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=faq&article=10
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post Jul 11 2023, 08:14 AM

 
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QUOTE(alvinph @ Jul 10 2023, 11:17 PM)
u will get surrender value + bonus + terminal bonus
Terminal bonus will only show on the surrender quotation which request from GE customer service.

when u pay the premium, these 3 things will be increased as well.
u can request the surrender quotation and know the total surrender amount 1st
then wait and paid the annual premium on Sept.
and see how much the total surrender amount increased.
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QUOTE(JIUHWEI @ Jul 10 2023, 11:35 PM)
Hi bro,
You see the "Net Surrender Value" there?
That's your answer.

Beyond that, I can't help you.
Because I don't know you.
I don't know your financial situation, I don't know what your expectations are, I don't know the purpose this policy was put in place to achieve in the very beginning.

Until we conduct a thorough interview, this policy is just a policy loh.
You may read through the policy contract to understand the policy and how it works.
Is it relevant or not... You be the judge after you read through, because you would know yourself best.
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One says "surrender value + bonus" but one says "net surrender value". Did i miss something?
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post Jul 12 2023, 03:26 PM

 
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QUOTE(JIUHWEI @ Jul 10 2023, 11:35 PM)
Hi bro,
You see the "Net Surrender Value" there?
That's your answer.

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QUOTE(denion @ Jul 11 2023, 12:40 PM)
hi kuwy86, if you surrender you will get the total amount here of 30k. i will advise you to keep the plan actually. it still has the life insurance coverage, should you need any life insurance in the future, can contra from here. wink.gif
hi poweredbydiscuz, i do agree it is confusing. for GE, the net surrender value doesn't include bonuses. so why is it call Net Surrender Value.

the Net Surrender Value here is Surrender Value - any unpaid premium (+ policy loan interest).

So when you surrender a GE traditional policy, it will be Net Surrender Value + any other bonuses (except for Revisionary Bonus which is only paid out upon policy maturity OR upon death of life assured)
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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Jul 11 2023, 01:57 PM)
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Since this policy comes with the Cash Bonus, the surrender amount should be the Nett Surrender Value + Cash Bonus as others have pointed out.

You may check if you do get any maturity benefit should you decide to keep the policy till maturity.
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JIUHWEISeems like there were a few posts that contradict with you reply. Any response on that?
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post Jul 18 2023, 11:23 AM

 
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QUOTE(sirius2017 @ Jul 18 2023, 10:59 AM)
hmm.gif Didn't know that Life Insurance with Major Illness Cover can be claimed for tax relief either as 100% life policy or 60% medical policy.
In 2024, with EPF self contribution, look like option 2 is the way to go.

Story by iMoney Editorial :How To Maximise Your Insurance Income Tax Reliefs (Before The End Of 2023)
8 PERSONAL INCOME TAX RELIEFS YOU CAN CLAIM IN 2023
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During my first few years of e-filing i also don't know about this. I simply key in the full amount i paid annually without referring to this statement. Hope LHDN don't marah me laugh.gif
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post Jul 20 2023, 08:47 AM

 
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QUOTE(contestchris @ Jul 20 2023, 12:38 AM)
Are you 100% certain on this? I have purchased a policy at RM3,000 and now paying RM3,440 per annum. There is a Premium Waiver Extra rider. Are you 100% certain this is limited only to the RM3,000 initially? Wouldn't the PWE rider cost increase once I had begun paying higher premiums?

Or are you referring to a situation where the premiums are increased AFTER you kena TPD/CI and have been claiming from the PWE?
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If you look at your policy wording, the premium waiver covers an exact figure (RMxxxx/year), it didn't say "cover your annual premium".
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post Jul 28 2023, 03:21 PM

 
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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Jul 28 2023, 03:15 PM)
Does it auto lapse? I had the impression that one can just continue to pay the medical card fees when the funds run out.
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When the medical card fee is higher than the premium he's paying, of course will lapse lo.
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post Jul 28 2023, 03:34 PM

 
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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Jul 28 2023, 03:21 PM)
That is not my question.

say in 30 years time, the medical card component comes out to be 800rm per month, while the funds is 10 ringgit,
one just pay 800rm diligently every month to keep the whole policy alive.

right?
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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Jul 28 2023, 03:24 PM)
That is not my question.

Do read what I meant in the other reply.
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So you mean like now my premium is 30% medical card and 70% investment, I can just pay 30% premium every month and the insurance company will allow that?
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post Jul 28 2023, 03:48 PM

 
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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Jul 28 2023, 03:35 PM)
Yes. that is what I understands.

But please don't do so.
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Wow. Didn't know about that.

But why don't do that? It will become like standalone medical card no?
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post Jul 28 2023, 03:59 PM

 
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QUOTE(JIUHWEI @ Jul 28 2023, 03:57 PM)
Except that you can't do that.
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That's why I'm surprised.

But Wedchar2912 seems very confident that it can be done tho.
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post Jul 31 2023, 08:28 AM

 
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Let's say when we sign up a medical insurance and declare no family history, then only found out that actually one of the family members has a medical condition. Should we declare this to the insurance company? If yes, what will happen to the policy?
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post Jul 31 2023, 01:03 PM

 
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QUOTE(contestchris @ Jul 31 2023, 12:50 PM)
Why? At the point of purchase the disclosure made was accurate
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QUOTE(coolguy_0925 @ Jul 31 2023, 12:53 PM)
Did you mean the family member's medical condition only discovered AFTER your declaration?
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Sorry for the confusion. Yes I mean only discovered that the family member had a medical history after purchase the policy.
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post Jul 31 2023, 02:27 PM

 
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QUOTE(JIUHWEI @ Jul 31 2023, 02:11 PM)
No issues at all. No need to disclose too.

Because the questionnaire is asking for disclosure AT THE POINT OF APPLICATION.

Since there was no diagnosis at the point of application, there's no way of knowing.
And since there's nothing known at the point of application, naturally there is nothing to declare.
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Example:
2020 - Sibling A had a heart attack, but he didn't tell his family so the family members didn't know about it.
2022 - Sibling B buy an insurance without declare any family history, because he didn't know about A's heart attack previously.
2023 - A & B had a gathering chit-chatting then only B found out about A's heart attack history.

So should B inform/update the insurance company?
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post Aug 29 2023, 08:27 AM

 
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QUOTE(reeve-826 @ Aug 29 2023, 08:04 AM)
Refer to this news, missed fill up existing sum assured in proposal form.

https://www.sinchew.com.my/?p=4687695
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What a scam. My agent also never ask me about existing insurance from other company.
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post Aug 30 2023, 04:57 PM

 
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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Aug 30 2023, 04:34 PM)
Yes i know about it, just want to double confirm.
Just wonder when insurance companies revise the premium for medical card it does not change anything for my case right?

I mean i wont be targeted specifically for premium increase just because cash value is low.
But rather premium revision affect all the policy holder for the same plan.
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Since your investment portion is drained, very likely it will not be able to sustain the plan until maturity and they will ask you to increase premium.
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post Sep 5 2023, 10:52 AM

 
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Wanna ask a typical critical illness insurance does not have death benefit right? Eg if the policy states that must survive 30 days to be eligible for claim, and the person dies at day 29, he and the beneficiary will receive nothing right?

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