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post Aug 31 2021, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(damien5119 @ Aug 31 2021, 11:53 AM)
can quote me?
I can send you details that you need via PM
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post Aug 31 2021, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(cutiepie007 @ Aug 31 2021, 02:30 PM)
I need a comprehensive takaful plan which could cover me at least 300k (death/tpd), 250k (CI), and 300k annual limit (medical) up to 70yo. I have received two quotations from different takaful operators namely prubsn and aia. Both suggests me to take two separate takaful policies (one for medical and one for death&CI) for more coverage at lower cost.

The plans are as follows:

1) prubsn
anugerah+: 10k (death/tpd), 300k annual (medical), level term payment = RM247
warisan+: 350k (death/tpd), 250k (CI) = RM151
add-on: deductable 300 and waiver
TOTAL = RM398

2) aia
a-life ikhtiar: 20k (death/tpd), 300k annual (medical) = RM201
a-life legasi: 350k (death/tpd), 250k (CI) = RM364
add-on: deductable 500 and waiver
TOTAL = RM565

Could someone here comment whether the medical limit is suffice for at least 10 years ahead?
And is it true that aia is generally more expansive?
And which plan is the best?
Is it alright if I choose a-life ikhtiar for medical and warisan+ for death/tpd/CI?

Btw, I am 34, M, nonsmoker, class 1 occup.
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I would hardly believe the price difference is over RM200.

It's best for you to disclose the full quote on Warisan+ before I can comment fairly.
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post Aug 31 2021, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(cutiepie007 @ Aug 31 2021, 05:48 PM)
Additional info, the Warisan+ sustainability age is quoted as 55 instead of 70. Do you think that this could be the reason of lower price quoted? What is sustainability age anyway?
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Yes of course, to last till 70 you'll need to pay more, so if you wish to compare Apple to apple. Get them to quote till 70

Sustainability just basically means how long the policy will last based on the amount you're paying.

In your case, your Pru policy wil end at 55 instead of 70.

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post Sep 2 2021, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(Aghi @ Sep 2 2021, 08:16 PM)
Hi guys,

Just to clarify. Allianz have no claim refund upto 20% of COI.
Does it mean the 20% is from only the medical (medisafe infinite+) coi or its including overall COI (life,medical,critical) ?

I see that after 10-20 years the coi is very high and can save some good amount of money.
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Just to clarify. Allianz have no claim refund upto 20% of COI.
Does it mean the 20% is from only the medical (medisafe infinite+) coi or its including overall COI (life,medical,critical) ?

This

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post Sep 3 2021, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(kaish529 @ Sep 2 2021, 11:18 PM)
Hi all,

I am 23 currently, non-smoker, work as software engineer. Right now I am subscribed to a policy from Prudential that my parents bought for me since I was a child:

PRUmy child MYR 50,000
Crisis Shield Benefit MYR 50,000
PRUflexi med
-250(room&board)
-no deductible
-50,000(annual limit)
-1,000,000(lifetime limit)
Enhanced PRUpayor Basic

Premium MYR 170/month
My agent is proposing me to surrender the old policy and change to a new one:
PRUWith You MYR 50,000
Crisis Guard MYR 50,000
Acci Guard Plus MYR 50,000
PRUMillion Med
-200(room&board)
-300 deductible
-1,380,000(annual limit)
-no lifetime limit
Payor Basic

Premium MYR 250/month
I am wondering if it is possible to upgrade the old policy to have similar coverage as the new proposed policy especially for the medical card, or do I really have to surrender the old one and subscribe to the new? Thank you
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Prudential policies can be upgraded, just get your agent to quote accordingly based on your existing plan & what you'll like to upgrade and see the premium difference.

Of course, doing so, your agent won't earn as much. wink.gif

QUOTE(tiore @ Sep 3 2021, 01:18 AM)
Hi Sifoos, I am considering insurance for my daughter, age 9. 

Option 1
Monthly              RM 230
Age Coverage  100 years
Death/TPD          10k
R&B              200
Annual Limit  1.2M , unlimited lifetime
Parent Contributor Yes

Option 2
Monthly              RM 180
Age Coverage    70 years
Death/TPD          10k
R&B                    300
Annual Limit    1.3M, unlimited lifetime
CI                      50K
Parent Contributor  Yes

Thanks in advance your advice to help me to choose the above.
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If you ask me, most insurance companies would quote around 120 - 250 monthly for a 9 yr old, depending on what kind of benefits you're loading into the policy.

Question is,
1. What is the kind of benefit you're looking for the child ?
2. Sustainability ?
3. How much are you budgeting for the child ?
4. Do you plan to set aside for education ?

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post Sep 3 2021, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(tiore @ Sep 3 2021, 11:51 AM)
Thanks for your feedback and option.
Thanks for your reply.

1. What is the kind of benefit you're looking for the child ?
   - Basic Life/TPD, Medical, Parent Contributor. CI if the budget permits.
2. Sustainability ?
   -  I would prefer 100 years, however would like to know pros and cons between 70years and 100 years.
3. How much are you budgeting for the child ?
   - RM 230 is the max.
4. Do you plan to set aside for education ?
   -yes, just to cover for the above benefit.
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Monthly RM 150
Age Coverage 70 years
Death/TPD 10,000
Multi CI (850%) 100,000
R&B 200 Daily
Annual Limit 2.5M, unlimited lifetime
Deductible None
Waiver for Child Yes
Waiver for Parent Yes
No Claims Incentive 15%

Here's my version.

2. Sustainability ?
- I would prefer 100 years, however would like to know pros and cons between 70years and 100 years.

Having a higher sustainability would mean that the policy is less likely to lapse earlier than intended. But for a young person till Age 100, that is a long way to go so they'll probably go through more economical cycles

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post Sep 13 2021, 01:01 AM

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QUOTE(kiwifruit0 @ Sep 12 2021, 11:25 PM)
Hi  smile.gif ,

Got a few questions to ask:-

- If a person decide to migrate from Malaysia, does the insurance he/she bought still cover or have to surrender?

- For critical insurance - any comments which policy to choose or ratio of multiple CI policy shown below?
AIA CI - RM 150k
    A Plus early Critical Care
    A Plus Multi Critical Care
    A-Plus Beyond Critical Shield and A-Plus Beyond Early Critical Shield
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1. Depends on the country you're migrating to.

2. The more comprehensive is the CI coverage. The more premium you'll be paying for it.

Again, depends on what's your priority and how much you're willing to spend.
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post Sep 13 2021, 07:36 PM

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QUOTE(brando_w @ Sep 13 2021, 06:09 PM)
Oh gosh, 'criminal or terrorist activities' is also not covered.

Does insurance providers have the practice of buying over policies from another insurer?

Is it advisable to port over to another insurer after close to 20 years?

What are the pros n cons to consider?
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Different type of insurance has its one specific exclusion, take your time to slowly read it up.

Not unless the insurance company decides to exit the market.

Porting over depends on the situation / factors that you decided to port in. There are too many scenarios to illustrate in here.

Pros and cons? There are so many scenarios tho.
You could be doing it because of
1. Benefits
2. Health condition
3. Special offer
4. Premium
5. Different need


QUOTE(brando_w @ Sep 13 2021, 06:30 PM)
Thanks for the input.

Let's say I have a medical card with PRU and AIA; can I claim from both concurrently? If am not mistaken, only from either one.
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1. If it's for hospitalization and surgical, you'll need to claim from one insurer first and reimburse from the 2nd insurer.

2. Life / CI are all accumulated from all the different insurer. Subject to a certain cap.
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post Sep 15 2021, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(tornado dot com @ Sep 15 2021, 12:03 PM)
Hi all,

I'm looking for insurance for my newborn. However, he has been diagnosed with hypo-thyroidism, a condition where the thyroid gland is not producing enough of the thyroid hormone.

Current treatment is a daily dose of oral medicine that boosts the hormone. Is he insurable?
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Will depend on the doctor's report and overall reading. If it's favorable, policy will be granted otherwise it will be postponed.
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post Sep 16 2021, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(ZZMsia @ Sep 16 2021, 09:32 AM)
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And now, it comes with complimentary COVID-19 medical coverage. Get the Great Combo today before it’s too late > http://my.gelife.co/smm1 – for a limited offer period only!
For free delivery, contact your Great Eastern agent today!
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Saw this on FB. Anyone know what is this? We get a free rider with no extra premium??
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Yes, at no extra cost.

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post Sep 16 2021, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(ZZMsia @ Sep 16 2021, 12:29 PM)
Thanks, was informed by friend that AIA is now giving out GL for COVID. Previously was a no
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Yes, GL is offered by AIA, but it's not permanent ya smile.gif
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post Sep 17 2021, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(tornado dot com @ Sep 17 2021, 10:19 AM)
Yes, I'm looking for quotations currently. Will be willing to provide details
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Premium ranges from 100 - 250 monthly depending on the type of plan that you wish to apply for - Term / Investment Linked if it's a newborn.

I'd suggest you have a discussion with an advisor to figure out what coverage you are looking & what's the premium payable.

That being said, it's subject to the underwriter's discretion on your pre-existing illness.

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post Sep 18 2021, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(tornado dot com @ Sep 18 2021, 08:08 AM)
Yes, I'm looking for some insurance sifus to quote or to direct me to some agents. I already have for Pru. Open to look at other Insurance Co. quotations as well.
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It'll be easier if you can share your particulars.

Namely
Your child DOB, gender

Your DOB, gender, occupation, smoker or not.
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post Sep 19 2021, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(tornado dot com @ Sep 19 2021, 12:36 PM)
Pre-existing condition for baby: Hypo-thyroidism (Lack of thyroid hormone)
Monthly follow up at Hospital Putrajaya
Daily oral medication to up the hormone needed.

Child:
DOB 29/6/2021, Male

Me:
DOB 11/5/1986, Male, IT professional, non-smoker

Preference & Focus:
Medical card (co-insurance is OK) CI, minimum sum assured.
Life product, unit-linked.

Budget: Below RM 200

Companies quotations I already have: GE, Pru, Allianz
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At this point, it's just the advisor you want to pick with. I can practically quote for all the insurance companies you've mentioned. For your budget range, Pru/HLA would be able to meet below RM200 while able to provide a comprehensive coverage as I just did for lapland.

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post Sep 19 2021, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Sep 19 2021, 04:19 PM)
Mind telling, just for added knowledge sake,.... Did those insurance that quoted you,.....Did they exclude that preexisting illness or includes extra loading on the premium?
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A quote is just to show you what is covered within the policy, how much you are supposed to pay and what is within the policy on the T&C.

It's not an acceptance of your application until you choose to proceed with the application and have the application underwritten.

If there is a change in T&C, you'll be given a counter offer by the insurance company.

if it's rejected then you'll be informed by the agent/company.
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QUOTE(gloomberg @ Sep 21 2021, 08:13 AM)
Hi guys, can recommend me a medical card which is non-ILP?
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There are plenty of options out there. You got to more specific if you want to narrow down the options. I'm not going to list them all here.
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post Sep 21 2021, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(Sitting Duck @ Sep 21 2021, 07:05 PM)
Hi All,

Appreciate someone agent can answer my question.

I have couple of insurance policies (medical investment link) with AIA which were bought more than 10 years ago.

The medical coverage is very little (30k annually and life time 300k) which isn’t quite sufficient for rising medical cost.

1. Can I revise the coverage on existing plan ?
2. Do I need to approach the agent that I bought policy from ? Cause the agent is no longer working as an AIA agent.  Can I approach other AIA agent and would other agent assist since the policy wasn’t purchase from them.
Thanks.
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1. You can revise whatever that is within the policy - i.e Add more death coverage or CI but the medical card cannot switch to the latest.
2. If the agent is no longer with AIA, how can you buy from the agent again ?

You can approach other AIA agent or Financial Advisors if you wish to get as a new policy.

Your current policy should have an existing agent (your agent's upline) unless the agent ditch you and park it under the company i.e orphan policy.

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post Sep 22 2021, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(SYAMiLLiON @ Sep 22 2021, 01:53 PM)
May I know how policy holder deal with claim if they were park under the company?
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For the claim details, you can

1. Call in to the insurance company to ask what are the docs required
2. Get the relevant forms that they've pointed out and gather the required docs as per the form (they'll have a checklist)
3. Submit it to the relevant department for your claims.

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post Sep 22 2021, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(milky12388 @ Sep 22 2021, 04:29 PM)
Hi all sifu, I want to buy PA, my budget is less 900 per annum, I thinking to get either

AIA Flex-PA - Plan FCPA-500 (RM875.56 per annum)
https://www.aia.com.my/content/dam/my/en/do...Brochure_FA.pdf

AXA SmartPA Enhanced - Plan 5 (Rm708 per annum)
https://axa-com-my.cdn.axa-contento-118412....ed+Brochure.pdf
I have a cousin who is AIA agent so it will be convenient to help me submit the claim and she has handled my case before.

But comparing with AXA PA package, it seems AXA offers better coverage than AIA.

If I buy AXA, touch wood if sth happens to me, will it be a hassle for me to claim since no contact to reach out?

Any other PA better than AXA and AIA?
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Allianz / Tokio Marine is another option.

For AXA, you can engage with AXA agents as well if you need servicing or Financial Advisor like myself where we are licensed for multiple insurance companies.

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post Sep 23 2021, 06:13 PM

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QUOTE(steventyy @ Sep 23 2021, 06:09 PM)
Hi all,

I'm 40 for next bday, BMI 32, taking high blood pressure and cholesterol medicine. 

Current with AIA ILP with 90K annual, life time unlimited. Thinking to increase my annual limit cover by apply for Deductible medical card.

Would like to have some advices from all the SIFU here.

Thanks.
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Based on your description on your current health status, there might be a chance of loading & Medical Examination required.

If you're looking to upgrade the policy or to supplement with an additional add-on but with deductible medical card, look for advisers who can assist you on it.

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