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Battery Talk, How long it last and how much it cost
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alexei
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 Feb 1 2021, 09:03 AM
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QUOTE(darkdevilrey @ Jan 30 2021, 11:06 PM) I notice the recent years the battery price for bike is increase dramatically. and to my surprise the price exceed car battery  so would like to do a compilation here of what brand, type, and price for future reference. My last Koyoko YT6B-3 last for 12months. bought at rm90 @ Jan 2020 now check rm125 @ Jan 2021  last last survey upgrade bigger size Koyoko YTX7A-BS hope it can last longer Ride : Suzuki AN125 Brand : Koyoko Model : YTX7A-BS Price : rm125 Date : Jan 2021 Gel battery cannot tahan overcharging, and die very fast when that happens. Either use normal lead acid, or AGM. I convert my kapcai to lithium battery liao. Now outside also sell Lithium battery for bikes. |
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alexei
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Feb 2 2021, 09:21 AM
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QUOTE(darkdevilrey @ Feb 1 2021, 09:56 PM) You mean the RCB lithium battery ? how much it cost ? RM2xx Can check here for other brands: https://shopee.com.my/search?keyword=motorcycle%20lithium |
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alexei
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Feb 2 2021, 09:50 PM
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QUOTE(jacktay94 @ Feb 2 2021, 04:32 PM) which charger do you use? Trickle charge when bike is parked? No charger. No trickle charge. 3% a month, so... 3600mAh will take 10 months to loose 1200mAh. I just let it sit only. Just in case it really went flat, or cutoff due to over discharge, standby a charger like this: https://shopee.com.my/Rapido-Lithium-Ion-Ba...7878.2841879679The battery has BMS to cutoff once done charging. |
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alexei
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Feb 4 2021, 08:37 AM
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QUOTE(jacktay94 @ Feb 3 2021, 07:38 PM) Interesting. I have a tracker installed so might need to look at charging once a month. Are you using the Rapido battery as well? No, not yet. I'm using recycled laptop battery (18650 li-ion) with cheap BMS for battery. Bear in mind my bike no electric starter. |
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alexei
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Feb 4 2021, 09:25 PM
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QUOTE(darkdevilrey @ Feb 4 2021, 09:20 PM) able to revive the dead battery but duno can last for how long now become green already pulse charge it 12hours I had one, turns green after charge, but when crank it won't work. |
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alexei
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Feb 17 2021, 07:15 AM
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QUOTE(toos99 @ Feb 17 2021, 02:02 AM) That sounds heaven sent but I am sometimes dumb as sh*t. Do you possibly have a pictorial view of what kind of cables I should be looking for? I am seeing all these only: https://shopee.com.my/12V-Terminal-To-SAE-Q...4AaAsgxEALw_wcBThe ends that have rings on them make sense. However, the other end doesn't look like it can be clamped by the Bosch C3 alligator clips. You get the idea. That item installed on bike side. On charger side, get something similar and connect to the battery charger. That way you can use the quick connect. Sample in video here: » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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alexei
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May 22 2023, 08:39 PM
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QUOTE(yhsiau @ May 22 2023, 04:40 PM) Unless u r using smart tickle charger which can chk & determine the battery power strength will stop charging once the battery power strength has reached the peak.. My company kapchai(Suzuki Smash 110) already adopted 12v 7.2a SLA battery long time ago..  Good to see you here. The Lithium pack still in service, time flies. My bike regulator will cut to 6V when no battery detect. the BMS has overcharge protection. I guess it works. When you adopt SLA, you're referring to MF over the conventional flooded? Or, something else? |
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alexei
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May 22 2023, 09:15 PM
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QUOTE(yhsiau @ May 22 2023, 09:11 PM) erm, that SLA battery is commonly found in Auto gate/house alarm panel/smaller size UPS. Lead proof & MF type. Just got my b2 last year August.. as I am thinking of changing job. those are gel type, right? I haven't cut open one yet. aren't those more expensive? This post has been edited by alexei: May 23 2023, 08:51 AM |
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alexei
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May 23 2023, 08:51 AM
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QUOTE(yhsiau @ May 22 2023, 09:50 PM) VRLA lead acid battery, 12V 7.2A cost about 60+ RM. afaik it doesn't have valve, and it's constantly under negative pressure once it goes positive pressure, the rubber cap will bulge, or starts to leak if the glue doesn't hold |
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alexei
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May 23 2023, 04:44 PM
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QUOTE(yhsiau @ May 23 2023, 03:29 PM) By the time the battery swelled & start leaking, it means it has reached EOL.. Ok, local battery news.. Yuasa MY confirmed closing its manufacturing plant in Sg.Petani. So, all incoming products(vehicle battery) wil be either from Indonesia or Thailand branches. So, the factory becomes battery manufacturer for another brand? |
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alexei
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May 23 2023, 06:57 PM
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QUOTE(yhsiau @ May 23 2023, 05:28 PM) No, Yuasa MY no longer produce vehicles battery, those who worked in the manufacturing plant will get retrenchment.. Yuasa MY become trader (importer, just like GP battery). This means Yuasa motorcycle battery supply will be affected too. I believe it's the last year strike made the Japanese management doolan.. so, they decided to close it down. U can search the news for details. I saw some news, Honda Yuasa JV a few billion. Easy to give up ppl who they deem 'unfaithful' to hands that feed them. Just a wild guess. |
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alexei
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May 24 2023, 08:29 AM
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QUOTE(yhsiau @ May 23 2023, 07:40 PM) Yuasa battery which made in Malaysia is history now.. As for imported yuasa Motorcycle battery, the YTX series from Indonesia & YTZ series from Thailand. Based on pass past experience, Thailand yuasa battery is more stable than Indonesia Yuasa battery. but YTZ is more modern AGM than YTX... could that be why? |
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alexei
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May 24 2023, 01:57 PM
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QUOTE(yhsiau @ May 24 2023, 01:32 PM) No idea but, I experienced few YTX battery DOA last year.. after filled Acid which came with the battery, that battery getting hotter without charging. The voltage readings is about 10.x V. Normally such battery will getting warm after the acid is filled in. The readings is 12.x V. Just do a short charging will be good to use. that's bad... arrived with shorted plates, I guess. |
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alexei
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Oct 30 2023, 07:24 PM
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QUOTE(dogbert_chew @ Oct 30 2023, 06:27 PM) Charging my son's bike every 2-3months. Only ride it few KM every month.  Will this degrade the battery? measure voltage before you charge everytime, this will tell |
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alexei
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Oct 31 2023, 08:45 AM
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QUOTE(yhsiau @ Oct 30 2023, 08:43 PM) Not so "high tech" bike consume less battery power during idle.. Those keyless scooter sure drains lots of battery power during idle periods. you have a point that bike looks like R15, so should be less keyless, IINM, can be disabled for long term storage my point is to gauge the leakage which is attributed to internal resistance, less of external drain, and only charge if it drops to a certain voltage point since that is a gel battery |
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