Ayam want baking small size only 4.8l. Kenwood cheaper but kitchenaid looks nicer.
Kitchenaid 3.6k
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Kenwood or kitchen aid?
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Ayam want baking small size only 4.8l. Kenwood cheaper but kitchenaid looks nicer.
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kenwood is 1.5 juta?
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Kitchen aid for you lah.
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QUOTE(debonairs91 @ Jan 30 2021, 07:14 PM) Ayam want baking small size only 4.8l. Kenwood cheaper but kitchenaid looks nicer. 1.5j is too expensive. Better buy kitchen aid + bungalow + conti car.Kitchenaid 3.6k Kenwood 1.5j |
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Jan 30 2021, 07:30 PM
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I vote Kenwood as I had an old Kenwood that lasted me 30 years. Two year's back I bought another Kenwood. I trust their reliability and consistency. kingmaliQue liked this post
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Bodo question got moneh buy expensive lah, serious baker or pameran onni?!
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QUOTE(malayantiger @ Jan 30 2021, 07:32 PM) I vote Kenwood as I had an old Kenwood that lasted me 30 years. Two year's back I bought another Kenwood. I trust their reliability and consistency. Yees serious baker would buy Kenwood chef. adlizinc and malayantiger liked this post
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tot comparing kitchenaid with smeg.. kenwood, hmm
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QUOTE(ihavenoidea @ Jan 30 2021, 07:36 PM) Even mixer cover is ugly. If I use a good looking mixer, I would remove the cover when expecting a guest QUOTE(debonairs91 @ Jan 30 2021, 07:37 PM) Yeah. Not worth spending 1.5 million for something you cannot show off. |
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Kenwood cheaper but the attachment expensive
Seriously should consider those rm400 lazada one. Not much difference |
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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Jan 30 2021, 07:44 PM) Can also. But then you cannot do anything else while mixing the batter if you use hand mixer. I use stand mixer + hand blender (for beating egg white) to multitask while baking. Ayam thinking about the space, small kitchen ma. Hand mixer save space but hand will be tired. Saw some 200w, 300w ones. Cheap cheap below rm100, got no juta-juta to spend like TS.Still browsing, undecided on brands and price. This post has been edited by hirano: Jan 30 2021, 07:47 PM |
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QUOTE(fireballs @ Jan 30 2021, 07:40 PM) Kenwood cheaper but the attachment expensive Make sure you get one with a 1000W motor (minimum), especially if kneading bread dough. Otherwise the motor will heat up quickly and boom, hahahaha. At the end of the day, you get what you pay for. Kenwood = functional, quality and reliability. Looks, meh. Smeg = classic look, french Citroen/Renault quality (pun intended)Seriously should consider those rm400 lazada one. Not much difference KitchenAid = Instagramable. Maybe quality and reliability but pricy. |
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Handsdown kithcen aid from head to toe 10years no rosak.
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QUOTE(hirano @ Jan 30 2021, 07:46 PM) Ayam thinking about the space, small kitchen ma. Hand mixer save space but hand will be tired. Saw some 200w, 300w ones. Cheap cheap below rm100, got no juta-juta to spend like TS. If you only bake once in a while, hand mixer should be fine. But if you bake once a week or more often, you should invest in a good stand mixer. Stand mixer other than kenwood & kitchen aid also fine if only for baking cake. You don’t need powerful motor for creaming butter or whipping cream or egg whites.Still browsing, undecided on brands and price. Powerful motor is only needed when kneading dough. |
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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Jan 30 2021, 07:55 PM) If you only bake once in a while, hand mixer should be fine. But if you bake once a week or more often, you should invest in a good stand mixer. Stand mixer other than kenwood & kitchen aid also fine if only for baking cake. You don’t need powerful motor for creaming butter or whipping cream or egg whites. Correct Powerful motor is only needed when kneading dough. I have a kenwood major with a 6.7L bowl. It is a big and heavy machine. Whenever want to use, need to take it out from deep inside my kitchen cabinet. After use need to put it back deep inside the cabinet. Sometimes I rather use a hand mixer. Less troublesome. |
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QUOTE(CoffeeDude @ Jan 30 2021, 08:07 PM) Correct 6.7 too big for sure. That's why more prefer kitchenaid coz got 4.8 and 3 liter in one package for 3.6kI have a kenwood major with a 6.7L bowl. It is a big and heavy machine. Whenever want to use, need to take it out from deep inside my kitchen cabinet. After use need to put it back deep inside the cabinet. Sometimes I rather use a hand mixer. Less troublesome. |
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You leave your mixer on the counter?
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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Jan 30 2021, 07:55 PM) If you only bake once in a while, hand mixer should be fine. But if you bake once a week or more often, you should invest in a good stand mixer. Stand mixer other than kenwood & kitchen aid also fine if only for baking cake. You don’t need powerful motor for creaming butter or whipping cream or egg whites. You forgot insta prestige bro. Ayam no face to show off faber or khind brandPowerful motor is only needed when kneading dough. |
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QUOTE(hirano @ Jan 30 2021, 07:40 PM) Buy mixer head https://shopee.com.my/Philips-Original-Mixe...0215.6164036448pasang at bosch drill also variable speed |
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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Jan 30 2021, 08:27 PM) Buy mixer head https://shopee.com.my/Philips-Original-Mixe...0215.6164036448 Pasang at bosch drill? Lol crazy pasang at bosch drill also variable speed |
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I vote for kitchenaid cos my wife uses one for years and years and it’s super reliable. Now we even use to make ban mian and pasta using pasta attachments.
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Jan 30 2021, 08:39 PM
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Kitchenaid look really timeless in the kitchen especially red color.
Kenwood look like industrial design for people no taste. |
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Kitchen aid la. Can kuda on IG
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kenwood. have 1 in the house that last decades.
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anyone want to sell off their nice seldom used mixer?
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QUOTE(CoffeeDude @ Jan 30 2021, 08:07 PM) I have a kenwood major with a 6.7L bowl. this. real men/women use major chef. that power to knead dough It is a big and heavy machine. Whenever want to use, need to take it out from deep inside my kitchen cabinet. After use need to put it back deep inside the cabinet. This post has been edited by Skylinestar: Jan 30 2021, 08:44 PM |
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QUOTE(hirano @ Jan 30 2021, 08:29 PM) Mix cement (small patchwork repair, not making building slab), mix paint all pakai bosch also ok Actually even buying a big enough 3hp or 5hp motor + inverter for speed control + mixer head wont even touch 1k. The rest is just branding. This post has been edited by ceo684: Jan 30 2021, 08:51 PM |
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Should use your hand, it priceless with the sweat droplets mix together. That cake gonna priceless
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Why hand mixer hooks one side different got no washer..What the use..?
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QUOTE(debonairs91 @ Jan 30 2021, 08:57 PM) Got any useful attachment? The only one I can think of is food processor. But even then kitchenaid and kenwood both around same price (400+) as a start u will need this1. KENWOOD CHEF XL MAJOR SIZED FLEXIBLE BEATER AT502 because the k beater cant touch the bottom of bowl even after adjusting to lowest 2.additional bowl Chef Sense XL Sized Plastic Bowl KAT541PL |
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QUOTE(hirano @ Jan 30 2021, 07:46 PM) Ayam thinking about the space, small kitchen ma. Hand mixer save space but hand will be tired. Saw some 200w, 300w ones. Cheap cheap below rm100, got no juta-juta to spend like TS. Mine also small kitchen but can hide in cabinet la. When want to use only bring outStill browsing, undecided on brands and price. |
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QUOTE(debonairs91 @ Jan 30 2021, 07:14 PM) Ayam want baking small size only 4.8l. Kenwood cheaper but kitchenaid looks nicer. My gf was using a Kenwood for her channel. It was a 4 year old one she bought 2nd hand when she started out 2 years ago. Kitchenaid 3.6k Kenwood 1.5j The issue? It does not mix as well because the paddle and J hook attachments does not reach to the bottom of the bowl. It was replaced with a KitchenAid Artisan for Christmas and no looking back there as everything about it is better. Another one worth checking out is the SMEG, nice looks and currently Harvey Norman is clearing away the display models at a big discount. Good performance, good looks but Smeg parts are extremely expensive in this country. |
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Go for cheapest one. Rm300 product oso good ady. Probably only baked 1-2 times then keep in the shelve forever.
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Everyone thinks make bread must have a big machine.
Learn from this guy Jack, he kneads his dough by hand. No need machine. He is an expert on making bread. |
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QUOTE(pokchik @ Jan 30 2021, 07:29 PM) QUOTE(hirano @ Jan 30 2021, 07:29 PM) QUOTE(blanket84 @ Jan 30 2021, 07:35 PM) If bake cake only, then kitchen aid. If you want to knead dough, kenwood better. But then kenwood is fugly. If buy kenwood, one need to figure out how to hide the mixer. QUOTE(RallyNight @ Jan 30 2021, 07:53 PM) Kitchenaid got fake or not? I saw at lazada got cheap2 but not sold by official kitchenaid ayam scared fake |
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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Feb 2 2021, 06:38 PM) I don’t think got fake one. It’s normal for electrical appliances to be sold 15-20% below RRP. If cheaper than that probably grey set without warranty. QUOTE(metalfire @ Feb 2 2021, 06:41 PM) QUOTE(RallyNight @ Feb 2 2021, 07:58 PM) Buy from the kitchen aid os. Just noticed kitchenaid 4.8l is only 300w motor power. Enough or not? Even cheapo brand is 1000w+Its in shopee mall. I rather pay extra abit than headache later. So far imo kitchen aid is the best. Kenwood very wooble when in high speed. |
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QUOTE(malayantiger @ Jan 30 2021, 07:49 PM) Make sure you get one with a 1000W motor (minimum), especially if kneading bread dough. Otherwise the motor will heat up quickly and boom, hahahaha. At the end of the day, you get what you pay for. Kenwood = functional, quality and reliability. Looks, meh. Smeg = classic look, french Citroen/Renault quality (pun intended) Kitchenaid 4.8l is 300w enough power or not?KitchenAid = Instagramable. Maybe quality and reliability but pricy. |
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QUOTE(debonairs91 @ Feb 3 2021, 06:46 PM) I'm surprise KitchenAid is so low wattage. Didn't know that. Most Kenwood start from 1000W for their mixers. Mine is a Chef KVC3100. Rather low-end tbh. I have no experience with KitchenAid, so cannot comment. This post has been edited by malayantiger: Feb 3 2021, 06:57 PM |
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QUOTE(debonairs91 @ Feb 3 2021, 06:46 PM) most people will say higher watt betterbut i find it very contradicting when i was checking out those industrial grade mixers most of them are within 400-800W range for smaller scale ones yet goes through tough doughs like nothing |
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QUOTE(malayantiger @ Feb 3 2021, 06:53 PM) I'm surprise KitchenAid is so low wattage. Didn't know that. Most Kenwood start from 1000W for their mixers. Mine is a Chef KVC3100. Rather low-end tbh. I have no experience with KitchenAid, so cannot comment. 1.5k is low end? Rich liao. If I don't go for kitchenaid KVC3100 is my choice because that's the only kenwood with 4.8l size. The rest is either too small or too big like the chef xl. But hard to find now |
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QUOTE(debonairs91 @ Feb 3 2021, 07:00 PM) 1.5k is low end? Rich liao. If I don't go for kitchenaid KVC3100 is my choice because that's the only kenwood with 4.8l size. The rest is either too small or too big like the chef xl. But hard to find now That's a good price! I paid £350 two years back. Anyway a good mixer lasts. My old Kenwood is more than 30 years old. The old one is cast iron! Not moulded aluminium. Its a good investment. I make bread on a daily basis for my kids (now all grown up). Bread dough can be hard to knead by hand. But tbh, my wife found some 'no knead recipes' (very liquid dough) recently and we have been trying them out. Not bad results...so my Kenwood is left idle for now. |
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QUOTE(debonairs91 @ Feb 3 2021, 06:45 PM) I don't really know in depth about the anatomy of a stand mixer, but I remember back when I was purchasing my stand mixer, I have the same concern. Apparently direct drive motor consume less power than normal geared/belted motor while producing similar torque. Hence why you see stand mixer with direct drive motor comes with less wattage.Same like vacuum cleaner, Dyson advertised motor wattage is much lower than cheapo brands, yet producing better performance. ![]() This one is the one I bought. Doesn't look as good as Kitchenaid Artisan but performed better than my sister's Artisan. This post has been edited by blanket84: Feb 3 2021, 08:05 PM |
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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Jan 30 2021, 07:55 PM) If you only bake once in a while, hand mixer should be fine. But if you bake once a week or more often, you should invest in a good stand mixer. Stand mixer other than kenwood & kitchen aid also fine if only for baking cake. You don’t need powerful motor for creaming butter or whipping cream or egg whites. ok i just bought this. 450W. Rm141. Powerful motor is only needed when kneading dough. Quite ok for a hand mixer i think? ![]() |
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Feb 7 2021, 06:08 PM
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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Feb 3 2021, 08:02 PM) I don't really know in depth about the anatomy of a stand mixer, but I remember back when I was purchasing my stand mixer, I have the same concern. Apparently direct drive motor consume less power than normal geared/belted motor while producing similar torque. Hence why you see stand mixer with direct drive motor comes with less wattage. Is this sold in malaysia? Never seen this one beforeSame like vacuum cleaner, Dyson advertised motor wattage is much lower than cheapo brands, yet producing better performance. ![]() This one is the one I bought. Doesn't look as good as Kitchenaid Artisan but performed better than my sister's Artisan. |
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Feb 7 2021, 06:09 PM
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QUOTE(hirano @ Feb 7 2021, 06:03 PM) It’s a kenwood. I suppose should be okay for normal use. Last time also I only use philips hand mixer before I upgraded to stand mixer. The intention to upgrade is to bake bread & pizza but because of lack of counter space (and power outlet), I lost interest in doing both. End up use only to bake cake. |
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Feb 7 2021, 06:11 PM
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QUOTE(debonairs91 @ Feb 7 2021, 06:08 PM) Use to be sold in Malaysia. But then kitchenaid dominated the aesthetic market. So they only sell the ugly kenwood to people who actually want to bake not take picture This post has been edited by blanket84: Feb 7 2021, 06:11 PM |
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Feb 7 2021, 10:31 PM
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Feb 7 2021, 11:06 PM
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Feb 7 2021, 11:07 PM
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QUOTE(hirano @ Feb 7 2021, 10:31 PM) When you talk about mixer, it is always kenwood vs kitchenaid in most part of the world because they are the specialist.The brands you mentioned is just like any other electrical appliances brand, nothing special, hence nobody really talk about them. |
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