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Investment J. SATINE RESIDENCES / RUMAWIP @ SETAPAK, High dense project near Giant Setapak

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butthead76
post Nov 19 2024, 07:02 AM

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biasa lah...someone will brave to go declare safe, remedial work patch then VP

no collapse, then ok, if collapse then just blame that person say safe and penalty. developer wash hand. buyer dead already.

so what have we learned here? there is another risk buying undercon properties other then the typical risks. Also, even building can get VP. No one would dare to buy at secondary market. Hence, buyers likely stuck for life or wait like 20 to 30yrs till people forget.
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post Nov 19 2024, 07:50 AM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Nov 14 2024, 04:56 PM)
High Court Judge  said developers would no longer be able to rely on such provisions in the contract to avoid having to pay liquidated ascertained damages for late delivery of properties to purchasers, even if the sales and purchase agreement (SPA) provides for such a move.

SPA is not final .
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SPAs are final to the extent they donโ€™t contravene Statutues.

LADs are statutory remedies available to house buyers under the HDA. Hence any provision in a contract that removes/curtails the rights and obligations of parties that are enshrined in a statute - only that portion will not be enforceable. It would have to be interpreted in tandem with the Statute.


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post Nov 19 2024, 08:14 AM

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QUOTE(brandonkl @ Nov 18 2024, 06:57 PM)
"The preliminary structural assessment is now nearing completion, with quality checks and remediation measures to follow under the supervision of project consultants, it said"

Wow... Remediation measures can resolve the issue... Sounds like small issue.
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"We expect the full report to be ready within the next few months. This report will detail the exact nature and extent of these issues and recommend specific remedial actions,โ€ it added."

You conveniently omit this part from your reading?

Hold your houses, just wait for thier detail report and remedial specifics

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novblaze
post Nov 19 2024, 03:38 PM

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so what's the update now?
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post Nov 19 2024, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Nov 13 2024, 11:24 AM)
India???

Well what I know

Theirs even worse than ours....

The whole building can GG, people died.... but like No action taken after some period of time. All forgotten.... Cable connection all over the place...
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Bullshit remark of "Indian". India has one of the most sophisticated architectural history. I just said the movie reference. Not country. Wonder how on earth you get many stars.
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post Nov 19 2024, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(soulred777 @ Nov 19 2024, 06:06 PM)
Bullshit remark of "Indian". India has one of the most sophisticated architectural history. I just said the movie reference. Not country. Wonder how on earth you get many stars.
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then how about this news article??
Fake news??

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/cnainsider/...n-mafia-1323731

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After the incident, the authorities started to question the work of IVRCL, setting up a panel of technical experts to investigate the incident.

The findings pinpointed alleged faulty design, poor workmanship and a lack of supervision as the main causes of the collapse. But the full report was never released, and neither was anyone held accountable.

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post Nov 19 2024, 07:24 PM

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Wadever remedial it is.. this property value sure sudah jatuh as the talk of it will continue 5 to 10 yrs
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post Nov 20 2024, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(Boomwick @ Nov 19 2024, 07:24 PM)
Wadever remedial it is.. this property value sure sudah jatuh as the talk of it will continue 5 to 10 yrs
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Its rumahwip anyways, cant sell it within 10 years but theres soho unit which is different building itself and i believe is unaffected
butthead76
post Nov 21 2024, 07:09 AM

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QUOTE(Boomwick @ Nov 19 2024, 07:24 PM)
Wadever remedial it is.. this property value sure sudah jatuh as the talk of it will continue 5 to 10 yrs
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those under con floor collapse still ok as due to insufficient support during casting. this one serious problem, who dare to even stay. sweat.gif
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post Nov 21 2024, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(Boomwick @ Nov 19 2024, 07:24 PM)
Wadever remedial it is.. this property value sure sudah jatuh as the talk of it will continue 5 to 10 yrs
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People will forget eventually especially if the market is hot. But the smart buyer should do his due diligence. There are developments built on former landfills which didn't follow the recommended duration for land settling and highrise/mall and landed property built on the land. Initially values were suppressed but now the landed component prices are up and this point forgotten. The smart buyer will go to LYN to check the history of the chats (which was what i did when i decided to buy a property).
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post Dec 12 2024, 06:12 PM

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No updates from developer?

Really no one working at the site?
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post Dec 18 2024, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(brandonkl @ Dec 12 2024, 06:12 PM)
No updates from developer?

Really no one working at the site?
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So far seems like no work at all at the site.
Main entrance also blocked by DBKL yellow tape.

I wonder how long it would take to get the report by the independent auditors.

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QUOTE(shafiqrahman @ Dec 18 2024, 01:40 PM)
So far seems like to work at all at the site.
Main entrance also blocked by DBKL yellow tape.

I wonder how long it would take to get the report by the independent auditors.
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A few months if not over a year.


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post Dec 19 2024, 12:20 PM

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Hope things goes well. Would be really sad for the buyers if it ends up abandoned. End of the day it's the buyers that suffers
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post Dec 19 2024, 12:38 PM

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Walauweh kesian kat buyers kalau take years to rectify & complete the project.

Rumawip buyers are mostly people who needed affordable homes right.
Paying the current rental & then their loan already partly disbursed, hopefully, things turn out okay for them.
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post Dec 19 2024, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(shafiqrahman @ Dec 19 2024, 12:38 PM)
Walauweh kesian kat buyers kalau take years to rectify & complete the project.

Rumawip buyers are mostly people who needed affordable homes right.
Paying the current rental & then their loan already partly disbursed, hopefully, things turn out okay for them.
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maybe will compensate the buyer with PV22 (more luxury non rumahwip project.)

more the look its almost hard to rectify due to the almost completed the top and even tear down partially and build also will trigger LAD late penalty. Only solution is compensating premium project to the existing buyer
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post Dec 19 2024, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(shafiqrahman @ Dec 19 2024, 12:38 PM)
Walauweh kesian kat buyers kalau take years to rectify & complete the project.

Rumawip buyers are mostly people who needed affordable homes right.
Paying the current rental & then their loan already partly disbursed, hopefully, things turn out okay for them.
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Those Residensi Hektar buyers are going through this. Really pity them. Easy for the developer to just run away like that ๐Ÿ˜”
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post Dec 19 2024, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(Jazted @ Dec 19 2024, 12:41 PM)
maybe will compensate the buyer with PV22 (more luxury non rumahwip project.)

more the look its almost hard to rectify due to the almost completed the top and even tear down partially and build also will trigger LAD late penalty. Only solution is compensating premium project to the existing buyer
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Declare bankrupt is easier.

Their PV22 also need capital to fund the construction, impossible they will give it out for free
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post Dec 19 2024, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(victorian @ Dec 19 2024, 01:13 PM)
Declare bankrupt is easier.

Their PV22 also need capital to fund the construction, impossible they will give it out for free
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The best way forward is for everyone to take some losses. Buyers need to be reasonable and let go of the LAD if it means that the project will be completed even though late. Developer need to be responsible to rectify the defect and rebuild to completion even if it means they make loss on this project. If buyers die die want LAD, the worst may happen and PV allow developer company to go bust leaving a very unsafe eyesore.
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post Dec 20 2024, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(shafiqrahman @ Dec 19 2024, 12:38 PM)
Walauweh kesian kat buyers kalau take years to rectify & complete the project.

Rumawip buyers are mostly people who needed affordable homes right.
Paying the current rental & then their loan already partly disbursed, hopefully, things turn out okay for them.
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sadly many of the abandoned project are made up from rumahwip

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