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Investment J. SATINE RESIDENCES / RUMAWIP @ SETAPAK, High dense project near Giant Setapak

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victorian
post May 10 2022, 07:39 AM

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QUOTE(DragonReine @ May 10 2022, 04:09 AM)
https://www.rumawip.com.my/properties/setapak/

it's called J Setapak on RumaWIP site
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This is not the official residensi wilayah website
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post Jun 3 2023, 06:27 PM

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QUOTE(nvvbie123 @ Jun 1 2023, 05:24 PM)
Hi, anybody has anything to say about this project? Interested but the 3,600 unit + SOHO = 4000+ unit in one area makes me think many times..

kinda not good for investment? what do you think?

for own stay also dunno.. not sure how crowded it'll be & if the management really can handle all 4000+ families and whether the facilities can be kept nicely clean..

near to my workplace but the 3,600-4000+ sounds really crowded.. but kinda FOMO, if i miss this out, will i regret it.. if i can't live there for whatever reason, seems like difficult to rent out the unit, isnt it..?

no experience in living in very high density high-rise like this. so please share your experience and wisdom. Thank you sifu.
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FOMO only applies when something is in huge demand with low supply. This is so high dense, you are not missing out anything.

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post Nov 12 2024, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(sadukarzz @ Nov 12 2024, 10:17 AM)
Yeah, true and I am aware of it too.

But as politics would tell us, the politicians often take such issues to spin and makes it a narrative towards their opponents.

While more educated and information-enabled citizens would be able to distinguish the fact from fiction (albeit some with biasness)

Most of the general uninformed public would still buy into the narrative

That's where it hurts the government / their opponents
But too much intervention would lead to dependence. I agree with icemanfx that too much intervention especially rescue packages, abuse will happen.
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Gov can't do much la. Look at the nearby Residensi Hektar, also abandoned since the 2018 government.

No politicians actually play up the issue, the residents are on their own.

Oppositions do not meddle in this too much because they know that it will backfire on them next time if they take back the helm.
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post Nov 12 2024, 11:42 AM

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To be honest, the magnitude of this issue is even larger than a project being abandoned.

For abandoned project, Gov has set up a guarantee scheme for white knights to take over and complete the project. The underlying financial issue is much easier to solve.

Compared to the current issue, which not only involves the financials of the developer but also the structural integrity of the whole building. Coupled with this being a high dense affordable housing project, this is a sticky situation to solve.

I much rather be in Residensi Hektar's shoe.


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post Nov 12 2024, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Nov 12 2024, 04:59 PM)
In STB, developer has 3 years to sell. In BTS, it is in developer to sell ASAP, likely to price at prevailing market price.
Punter preferred to bet on lad payment Vs abandoned project.
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then the developers will probably close shop it they have to bear all the cost/risk during the construction and after completion, still under pressure to clear their stocks as there is not much premium to be earned. biggrin.gif

BTS does not make sense at current juncture, it will just make everything more expensive
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post Nov 12 2024, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Nov 12 2024, 05:20 PM)
In BTS, completion risks, market risks, credit risks, etc is on developer. developer is natural to against bts. only financially strong developer could sustain bts.

why should buyers bare completion and market risks for developer?
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When government mandates that only BTS is allowed, guess what will happen?

Risk is now shifted from the buyer to the developer. Developer will charge a premium to reflect the increase in risk.

And if the current salary market cannot catch up with the increased property price, there will be property overhang.

Small developers will go out of business, bigger developers will slow down their launches because less people are buying them.

Subsale price increase, rental price also increase in tandem.

And there is a domino effect to the local economy when everything stops and people spends less.

And all this just because 1 out of so many project failed/abandoned.


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post Nov 15 2024, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(nihility @ Nov 15 2024, 02:09 PM)
I'll not eliminate the possibility you mentioned, it is possible. Yet, I still believe my deduction that they will rectify it at all any cost.
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Not so sure at the "any cost" part.

Everything has a limit, now it depends on their tolerance level to absorb the losses.


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post Dec 19 2024, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(Jazted @ Dec 19 2024, 12:41 PM)
maybe will compensate the buyer with PV22 (more luxury non rumahwip project.)

more the look its almost hard to rectify due to the almost completed the top and even tear down partially and build also will trigger LAD late penalty. Only solution is compensating premium project to the existing buyer
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Declare bankrupt is easier.

Their PV22 also need capital to fund the construction, impossible they will give it out for free

 

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