Fuh this looked like 1 or 2 of the inner core wall failed

Load and weight transfer to shear wall, shear wall cannot handle, explode

Now I think if its that serious, it could be the foundation below sank, no immediate support for the core base

Could be possibly there's a deeper sinkhole around / near the area

Hailat RIP to buyers

Even if rebuild / fix, the entire project not gonna get CCC

Inspect > gauge > removal of damage > rebuild / repair > reinspect

I believe gonna take another 6 - 12 months

RIP really shit ..

That's why QS, Materials, Main & subcon is imporant

Some /k still dismiss all under developer

PV not reputable? Also kena

Wew my thoughts and condolences to buyers - sue 9 the developer force them to kick the culprit out

Usually developer yang cut soil investigation points and construction cost

If discount 80% I will buy one

Unfortunately that could be the case for this project

But we wouldn't know until the independent investigation is concluded

And also, I might be wrong, since the car park level seems unaffected, then it could be that the foundation where they build the residence upwards is not stable

Or structural failure due to material or design wise

At the end of the day, its still the buyer's losses

If developer starts to play count the blame and point the blame

Then you know the buyers are really farked

carpark also affected.

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5493144

Thanks for pointing it out, appreciate it

Fuuuuhhhh if that is the case

Then my initial suspicion would make sense if the sinking happens all the way down

They're in for a huge headache, be it buyer or developer

Soil sinkholes is the worst outcome

Repost picture from the first page

Consultant is unlikely to under design. More likely the main contractor or subcontractors cheated on materials e.g concrete strength or/and steel bar.

Investigation and report would take a few months. Project is likely to delay for a few years if ever to be completed. It could be cheaper for the main contractor, subcontractor or/and developer to declare bankrupt than dismantle and reconstruct the building.

This post has been edited by icemanfx: Nov 10 2024, 08:04 PM

They got 2 structural consultants (foundation and super structural) does it got affected?

Unless the consultant is in-house or retired, unlikely to under design.

Agreed on the duration part- Skeptical on the under design part, since this is Rumahwip, I believe many developers could be negligent and pressure consultant to put in more units per block / higher floors on top of double loading. But possibly that although the designer is experienced, when referencing prior designs did not encounter such issues so went with it, then happen not to expect the compounding effects of poor material used to cause structural failure.

*also Malaysian developers are certainly taking Malaysia's blessing of infrequent geological activity for granted especially in their design and constructions

I doubt that the developer (PV or Jakel in this case. Especially PV which is heavily involved in property development in its nature of business) will declare bankrupt over a portion of the building facing structural failure. They could possibly do away with some form of repairs, but to declare bankrupt over this would open huge can of worms (as it would show how weak the financial strength of developers).

But no matter what is the resolution pathway chosen..

1. Buyer confidence eroded for the structure
2. Safety is not able to be guaranteed in the longer term
3. Developer image suffers negative impact
4. A huge delay in deliverables for the project
5. Increased costs for the buyers as the buyers of RUMAHWIP are less likely to be from M40 or T5,10,15,20; they are probably renting but still need to start paying installments according to disbursed funds (in which this looks like a 80% completion before the incident happened).
6. If its a sinkhole beneath the structure, it will then raise the question of safety on the immediate surrounding blocks

Pain, really painful for all parties involved. But if foul play is involved, I certainly hope that they would be punished.

12 mth can settle ?

I am looking at least 6 yrs if the developer no play bankrupt and run

Need demolish 1 yr
Then redo from scratch and need to find spot to do piling again.. 1yr..

And maybe the new one also cannot be so high as land cannot take such load..

Anyhow, it is a very pitiful situation for all buyer..

Easy way out is kaboom bankupt and siam.. developer ad mitigate risk by using a subsidiary..
The also already profit wad they need in the progressive billing..
Better subsidiary die then pulling the whole group down
Is business after all

This post has been edited by Boomwick: Nov 10 2024, 10:59 PM

How their PV22? Still can sell? 😏

Quite unfair to TCS shareholders , for making unjust and mere accusations against their co , without any proofs :-

“As the main contractor for the project, TCS Construction Sdn Bhd (TCSC), a wholly-owned subsidiary of the company, expresses deep concern over this incident. Initial findings suggest that the building cracks are not caused by the company,” TCS said in a filing with Bursa Malaysia.




https://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...t-j-satine-site

Initial findings show explosion not caused by us, says condo contractor.

He urged the public to stop sharing and spreading unverified information related to the project.

This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Nov 11 2024, 12:09 PM

What explosion actually is this being referred to? They claim residents of surrounding area reported a loud explosion to authorities.

how do you get the video? when i click into the channel..there is not videos
just wanna watch the other parts as well

ah...sorry part 1 and 2 in another thread

This post has been edited by sunami: Nov 11 2024, 01:26 PM

Not cause by main con then cause by?

What caused the Loud Explosion is still under the investigation by Govt authority, together with expert advisers , perhaps not by Act of God , something else .

Too early to conclude now.

This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Nov 11 2024, 02:10 PM

Wouldn't it be more beneficial to the developer to declare bankrupt and just case close ?

-DP-

This post has been edited by cms: Nov 11 2024, 02:48 PM