Is that calculator allowed into the SPM exam?
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Is this calculator allowed to SPM, Casio fx-570es
Is this calculator allowed to SPM, Casio fx-570es
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Aug 23 2007, 03:58 PM, updated 19y ago
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Is that calculator allowed into the SPM exam?
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Aug 23 2007, 04:08 PM
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Careful later ur teacher get angry c u using this he'll became ghost & sing u indian thriller!
"Gosh,my old calculator aint go no bow. Nippley man I met he ate my motorboat" |
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Aug 23 2007, 04:10 PM
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ahahah...that song...
lol i need answers weather that calculator is allowed to bring to spm...not for me though its for my sis... |
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Aug 23 2007, 04:28 PM
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Ya, i also wanna know about it.
Coz i seeing there is the SPM thread posted a link to download a .pdf file. Thats a tutor how to use ur 570 till the max in SPM. I'm gonna ask my math teacher whether can bring in and use in axam or not... Anyone here know any info about it? |
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Aug 23 2007, 04:31 PM
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yea...agree with u...cause the 570 got 2 version...the es and another 1 not sure the model but can bring to spm...the "es" is the 1 i am not sure
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Aug 23 2007, 04:33 PM
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ES and MS can bring in la. I am from last year's batch and i used it for add maths to get A. C.S.M, factorization, differentiation, log, statistics all also use that calculator
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Aug 23 2007, 04:48 PM
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oh...ok thx for the info
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Aug 23 2007, 05:19 PM
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I think it is. There is not paper telling the invigilators what calculator models can be brought it or not. It just says cannot use a programmable one which 570ms or 570es both can't. So what i did was, i brought in a 350ms and 570ms and a 570es into the exam hall. When they asked why i brought in so many calculators, i told them "Takut bateri habis nanti"
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Aug 23 2007, 06:35 PM
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not programable only.
any calculator which is not programmable are allowed le... those pasar malam or kedai runcit use 1 aso can. if u damn geng ler. |
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Aug 23 2007, 10:25 PM
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honestly, i doubt they really care about your calculator in SPM =/ ehhehe
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Aug 23 2007, 10:46 PM
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Ya, the exam paper there wrote can only use a non-programmable calculator.
Den is 570ms a programmable calculator? |
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Aug 23 2007, 11:13 PM
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during my spm time, they don't allow us to use it. started using in form 6..
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1st of all, bring a spare to be sure.
2nd of all, there isn't a letter sent to the SPM saying no 570 ES are allowed to be in. JUST NON PROGRAMMABLE 3rd of all, i have used it 4th of all, no one is free enough to check every calculator 5th of all, ur teacher is an idiot. just as when he says no liquid paper aren't allowed. i too used it. BOO HOO. he scares you will all these lies so u will listen to that fella. just as he tells u how important the add maths project is. |
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lol if cant use liquid paper.. ithink examiner will cry when he sees my
anyway.. everyone in my class using 570ms. dont tell me theyre sooo out of their mind to just buy it for class purpose n ntg else. es is natural display?. |
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Aug 23 2007, 11:37 PM
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no actually u can't use liquid paper for OBJECTIVE OMR paper but some stupid teachers (like mine in seri suria hulu langat) say that CANT USE IN ANY PAPERS!
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You know, after all the hoo hah about pens and liquid paper in secondary school, i am now using pencil for everything in college.
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QUOTE(arsenwagon @ Aug 23 2007, 11:32 PM) lol if cant use liquid paper.. ithink examiner will cry when he sees my Yep ES is natural displayanyway.. everyone in my class using 570ms. dont tell me theyre sooo out of their mind to just buy it for class purpose n ntg else. es is natural display?. |
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QUOTE(mumeichan @ Aug 24 2007, 12:54 PM) my lect really mad when saw student using pencil to do assgmnt, test or exams. she said using its like kindergarden/primary school students... and of course la i still using pencil, but only for drawing etc. that's a common sense.... |
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Sep 13 2007, 12:35 AM
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I brought in 570S and 570MS and a texas instruments TI30x-IIB. No probs.
Added on September 13, 2007, 12:36 am QUOTE(rainingzero @ Sep 7 2007, 10:02 PM) my lect really mad when saw student using pencil to do assgmnt, test or exams. she said using its like kindergarden/primary school students... For drawings i dun mind using pencil.. I dun understand why people would use pencil to underline instead of a pen and of course la i still using pencil, but only for drawing etc. that's a common sense.... This post has been edited by ceo684: Sep 13 2007, 12:36 AM |
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Sep 13 2007, 12:37 AM
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all scientific calculator can bring along as long as it is not programmable.
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QUOTE(felicious @ Sep 7 2007, 09:38 PM) heck, i'm in my final sem of my degree now, and i still use pencil for everything(test, exam, assignments), i think it's way more convenient than using pen, and liquid paper it later, makes things messy, and have to wait for the liquid paper to dry... so far no lecturers complain about it.. |
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Sep 13 2007, 10:05 AM
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The calculator should be ok.I use it in SPM and my A-levels finals.Nothing happen too.
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Sep 13 2007, 03:46 PM
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they advise against correction pen is due to the mess you might accidentally make during the exam.and,if you are using those cap ayam correction pen,you cant afford wasting time to let it dry.just cross out the mistake with a single line.much neater that way
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Sep 13 2007, 04:54 PM
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sure can la ... i used tat for my spm oso
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Sep 14 2007, 12:56 AM
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Today my addmaths teacher just came in and told us it's ok to use 570
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Sep 14 2007, 01:38 AM
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GOT CORRECT ANSWERS ENOUGH...WHO CARES ABT LIQUID PAPER, PENCIL AND MORE...
CALCULATORS ARE FOR US TO CHEAT.. |
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Sep 14 2007, 05:06 PM
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Let me help to enlighten all of you here. Programmable calculators are know as graphing calculator. The main difference is that graphing calculators can help you in drawing graphs and so on. Read more in that link above.
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Sep 14 2007, 08:20 PM
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5 series can be used during SPM. Actually the 5 series are supposed to be used for SPM while the 3 series are for PMR (Casio Scientific Calculators) but most of us are lazy to buy a new calculator since the old one still works and it saves money.
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QUOTE(kevin613 @ Sep 13 2007, 01:11 AM) heck, i'm in my final sem of my degree now, and i still use pencil for everything(test, exam, assignments), i think it's way more convenient than using pen, and liquid paper it later, makes things messy, and have to wait for the liquid paper to dry... so far no lecturers complain about it.. yes pencil is definitely much much more convenient. for my first maths class test in college i actually used pencil. ended up getting zero because lecturer said pencil's not allowed |
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QUOTE(rainingzero @ Sep 7 2007, 10:02 PM) my lect really mad when saw student using pencil to do assgmnt, test or exams. she said using its like kindergarden/primary school students... really like kindergarden/primary school children ma and of course la i still using pencil, but only for drawing etc. that's a common sense.... QUOTE(DreMAx @ Sep 14 2007, 05:06 PM) Let me help to enlighten all of you here. Programmable calculators are know as graphing calculator. The main difference is that graphing calculators can help you in drawing graphs and so on. Read more in that link above. lol i still remember using it to draw graphs for physics reports |
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Sep 15 2007, 02:10 AM
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opps~ its allowed la! that calculator is good for cheating! well.. i mean... to pass!
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Sep 15 2007, 04:03 PM
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I thought graphing calculators are allowed? Correct me if im wrong
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Sep 15 2007, 04:14 PM
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Can use.
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u bring 350 also can use 570 function la
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how many SPM students actually know how to use FX-570 to its full potential?
u can even perform Runge-Kutta method using FX-570. though u need 2 FX-570 at least and a lot of patience QUOTE(DreMAx @ Sep 18 2007, 03:09 PM) The super canggih one wor??? I know the screen is super big and the calculator itself is kinda big also. those plotter type calculator not allowed lo in SPM coz they wan u to use ur brain 2 draw the graph. SPM max only draw x-y plane no nid so canggih lo.Even in bachelor degree programs ur not allowed to use those calculator for graphing during exams. Dun bother getting that calculator juz because "it might become handy" somedays. A PC and MATLAB is enuff to do the trick. This post has been edited by lee_lnh: Oct 22 2008, 02:18 PM |
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Oct 22 2008, 02:20 PM
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i tink 570 its too cheating to bring into SPM if u can fully utilize.
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FX-570 can solve 3rd order simultaneous equations... weee
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Oct 23 2008, 09:48 AM
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I don't think ES will halao from them...should be no problem since everyone also planning to bring it..
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Oct 23 2008, 04:51 PM
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Easy.. make the paper harder... wahahaha
then calculator is not an issue |
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Oct 23 2008, 10:03 PM
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i was allow use that for spm 2007.
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so did u get A for add math?
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Oct 24 2008, 11:21 AM
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i used 570 for my spm lol
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Oct 24 2008, 03:39 PM
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I used 570MS during my SPM time, no problem. I think it should be alright as long as it's not a programmable or graphing calculator.
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Oct 24 2008, 08:29 PM
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570-ES is allow in the exam. It's a non-programmable calculator after all and it's function is almost similar to the 570-MS
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Oct 24 2008, 10:00 PM
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but 570es not allowed in uni cos its a 3 line display calculator =.=
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Oct 24 2008, 10:18 PM
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what can 570 do in form 4 syllabus..? can give example?
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Oct 24 2008, 10:27 PM
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logs for ES
Quadratic eqn..etc etc |
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IMO it's not a problem using 570ES in SPM.. It's not programmable so why worry so much. Besides, actually this thread with this question has been opened before last year.
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what can 570 do but 350 cant in form 4 syllabus? beside factorisation
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QUOTE(vick5821 @ Oct 24 2008, 10:18 PM) logarithmic conversions2nd, 3rd order simultaneous equation 3x3 matrix operations interpolation regression base2,8,10,16 conversion logic operations vector operations polynomial complex numbers differential equations statistics (mean, max, min, variance, distribution, etc) trigonometry etc... |
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Oct 25 2008, 07:16 PM
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570 rockx...
350 fail.... |
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QUOTE(lee_lnh @ Oct 25 2008, 11:00 AM) logarithmic conversions how to do tis all? can show the step with ques?? i think tis all is form 4 got use de2nd, 3rd order simultaneous equation 3x3 matrix operations interpolation regression base2,8,10,16 conversion logic operations vector operations polynomial complex numbers differential equations statistics (mean, max, min, variance, distribution, etc) trigonometry etc... |
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Oct 25 2008, 07:48 PM
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i heard that ms570 with the yellow 'copy' word cannot.. lolz..what a joke.. play safe... use 350
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Oct 25 2008, 07:50 PM
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350 can use abit of the special function of 570
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basically almost the whole school use 570ms for yrs without any probs
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basicly i used the 570 es and ms for my test this time, the es i use to solve equation and make sure the answer is correct, ms can do it too, jz that answer nt that accurate, (eg. instead of 30 degrees, it becomes3270 degrees which is also the same reference angle). MS is for fast calculation for me. ES for complicated stuffs
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Oct 25 2008, 11:31 PM
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Why bother using 570 while 350 is suffice for SPM?
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Anyone knows the exact usage of P(*, Q(*, R(* and -> for Normal Distributions? I only know how to use P and R, duno how to use Q and ->
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better dun use this. due to its fancy look and also the function is almost the same as the old FX570. but the fancy colour will attract the examiner attention. u use oldFX570 i think no problem .
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Oct 26 2008, 02:25 AM
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Dear guys , Ex Student of form 5 here all i can say is Casio Fx-570MS only allowed while the EX is not allowed
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They don't even know the definition of pre programmed calculators. The reason 570ES are banned is not because it has the ability to program formula but because some formula are pre programmed and it's text book input method means that student could basically poke everything in and get the answers out without working out a single thing.
Hell, even FX 991MS is not programmable, but those invigilators think they are too smart, they see high numbers, they call it programmable. This post has been edited by karhoe: Oct 26 2008, 09:52 AM |
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Just take them in and use it if nobody says "NO".
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QUOTE(Zepx @ Oct 26 2008, 12:17 AM) Anyone knows the exact usage of P(*, Q(*, R(* and -> for Normal Distributions? I only know how to use P and R, duno how to use Q and -> I can't really remember, but P is for left and R is for right, right? Q is the middle one..or something like that.. Too rusty now I used ES for my SPM last year, along with tons of other people, no problem. |
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my friend use this calculator ..but for safety bring 570es and 570ms go in loh
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Juz bring in la~ ofcoz, prepare 350 as backup,
anyway, 350 is actually enuf for SPM add maths la i think.. |
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how to use 570 to solve simultenous equation? can de?
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Oct 28 2008, 10:13 PM
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ES is the best thing since sliced cake. Just... lovely.
It integrates and differentiates much faster too, probably due to a better CPU. UEC allows it, SPM would be insane not to. |
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Best thing is bring the ACTUAL box with you if you are scared. Bring in the Casio or Sharp or whatever brand calculator you have and its box. Show the fellas if they question you. I love it when students get to shut those fellas' mouths.
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It's allowed, don't worry. I went into SPM with it. And mine was "modded" summore. I took out the casing and resprayed it white, so it looked like some cool gadget yo.
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so, for math exam, you bring this one into exam hall ?
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so in conclusion can i use es570 ?does any 1 used it b4 whn in ur spm?
http://www.calculators-online.co.uk/dbimag...sio/FX570ES.jpg is tis calculator can be use? This post has been edited by yeelain: Feb 10 2009, 04:36 PM |
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anybody know how to hack the calculator?
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I'm using the FX-570ms.. that one PMR also can.. surely SPM also can.. the 'es' is the new silver colour type ah?
Added on February 17, 2009, 4:39 pm QUOTE(Valkrie @ Feb 17 2009, 03:15 PM) I thought only the fully programmable Texas Instruments ones can hack..This post has been edited by latias93: Feb 17 2009, 04:39 PM |
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Of course, i used to.
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Feb 17 2009, 06:48 PM
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711 posts Joined: Jun 2008 |
QUOTE(amyhs99 @ Aug 23 2007, 04:28 PM) Ya, i also wanna know about it. can give me the link?Coz i seeing there is the SPM thread posted a link to download a .pdf file. Thats a tutor how to use ur 570 till the max in SPM. I'm gonna ask my math teacher whether can bring in and use in axam or not... Anyone here know any info about it? |
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Feb 17 2009, 11:38 PM
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1,053 posts Joined: Nov 2006 From: 我来无影,去无踪。 |
Can! As long as it's not programmable it's allowed.
SPM they don't check what calculator you bring in anyway. |
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Feb 20 2009, 02:25 PM
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5 posts Joined: Feb 2009 |
Yup the es 1 is silver colour .
I knw they wont check the calculator but the colour of the es 1 is silver colour so it is very specific tat y i scare they not allow us 2 bring in. |
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Aug 27 2009, 11:37 PM
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QUOTE(amyhs99 @ Aug 23 2007, 04:28 PM) Ya, i also wanna know about it. may i ask where u got tis link?Coz i seeing there is the SPM thread posted a link to download a .pdf file. Thats a tutor how to use ur 570 till the max in SPM. I'm gonna ask my math teacher whether can bring in and use in axam or not... Anyone here know any info about it? |
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Aug 28 2009, 03:04 PM
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289 posts Joined: Dec 2008 From: causeway bay |
if got expensive calculator but didnt use it to the max oso no use la hee
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Aug 28 2009, 06:42 PM
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1,483 posts Joined: Jan 2009 From: PJ |
I'm using FX-991ES
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Aug 28 2009, 10:42 PM
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191 posts Joined: Oct 2006 |
You can use this calculator in SPM.
I used it for SPM in 2006. |
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