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IpohGuyz
post Apr 21 2021, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(Hobbez @ Apr 21 2021, 01:51 AM)
Hey guys,

What is your opinion about neutering your cat? I know many experts and people say to neuter is best, but it may also make your cat depressed. If you search up on this subject, it does seem like some cats do seem to get depressed....same like humans.

But cats have a strong urge to mate (especially most male cats), and I'm finding that the "community cat" I mentioned before earlier, is no longer keen to stay in the cage and really wants to get out....

He also doesn't want to stay at his usual home, and will wander off for days if allowed to escape. I'm afraid he may not want to return ever. As you know, we don't really own our cats....it's either they want to stay or not.  laugh.gif

Once found, I notice he is marking new territory and sniffing the air......and being quite hostile with most other stranger cats. Getting into fights and trouble is exactly what we don't want!

So looks like cage life is not for him in the long run. I am considering to neuter him but I'm not sure if this is the best route.

But it seems like the only way. Otherwise, he is getting restless being in the cage now that he feels better after his long stint in the clinic.

According to the other "owners" that now care for him at their house, he was never like this and very homely. Now he seems intolerant of other cats (those people feed other cats too) and just seems like he wants to get away from them.

Any opinions? Will neutering him make him more homely, less restless, and more friendly with other cats. Mind you, he was quite alright with them BEFORE he went for his long stay at the clinic.

Now his former home is like a new environment to him (although he seems to recognize his former human care-givers).
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i have a stray cat that likes to fight too. also thinking to neuter him but i don't think it will help based on internet research. reduce his strength maybe.
i also have 2 home cats used to fight each other. after neutered, still fight but use less strength.

personally, i won't neuter outside cat. cat outside and short life already pity, still take away their precious. let them have fun la and natural run it's course. there's cats outside my house fighting too, but can't do anything. it's natural behavior.

i did neuter my home cats that are not allowed to roam outside though. at first i don't. but see him also pity, cause everytime the urge, he will claw window want to get out and mate. after neuter no more already. i guess that's the cost to pay for being homey cat. comfortable /safe life but lose precious.

also cats need to be fully vaccinated before surgery/neuter. otherwise will kena parvo or other kind of virus that can lead to death. and if best, cat need to be tested on fcov before vaccinated. if a fcov positive cat get vaccinated or neutered, there's chance to trigger mutation to fip and kill the cat. mutation is due to stress.

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post Apr 21 2021, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(Hobbez @ Apr 21 2021, 11:20 PM)
That sounds bad.  cry.gif

So it's neuter and then straight to the cage forever, or else do not neuter and then let him roam and potentially have a short life....
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Yup. But mine is house. Not cage. You can also walk your cat like dogs but i lazy cause i have too many

If you want keep inside house, there's no rush to neuter until you see symptoms that force you to neuter him.

For cats roaming outside, why itchy neuter him la. Like neome say, will reduce aggressive and kena bully. Worse if encounter snake dunno got power or not.

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post Apr 22 2021, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(spunkberry @ Apr 22 2021, 01:34 AM)
Spay and neuter your animals please, including the "outside cats". Keeping intact animals indoors is going to cause you a lot of pain - female cats yowling and pissing everywhere, male cats constantly trying to escape and pissing everywhere too. As for outside cats, you are contributing to the already crazy populations of cats.

SPAY AND NEUTER YOUR ANIMALS. You also decrease fatal infections - female cats can get uterus infections and it can kill them.

Those of you talking about feeling sorry for your cat, you are projecting how you would feel if you got castrated onto the animal. Stop it. The animal doesn't know any better. The behavior change is expected because of the hormone change.
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how do you so sure animal doesn't know. you are not animal.

and i don't buy the opinion of contributing to population of cats. textbook template answer in support neutering. it's like how about killing all humans that don't have food to eat cause they are are suffering and have too many population, might as well don't get born. or how about removing your testicle so that you can prevent prostate cancer? if this doesn't sound right for human, why it sounds right for animals?

anyway, everyone has their own opinion. no right/no wrong and even if there's right/wrong, it's hard to change people opinion.
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post Apr 22 2021, 08:37 PM

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QUOTE(Hobbez @ Apr 22 2021, 03:31 PM)
Can you elaborate on this? I never heard before that before neutering must also vaccinate them.....
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If kitten and not vaccinated, they got chance kena parvo virus due to surgery. Vaccine prevent parvo virus. Parvo mostly kill. In this case vet usually won't do unless full vaccinated. 2-3 jab in 2-3 months.

Then another is feline corona virus. Easy kena but dormant in the body. Like covid la. But if cat stress will trigger mutation of this become fip. Fip also mostly will kill. Surgery cause cat to stress.

Of course alot cats go surgery without fcov knowledge. Can only say lucky. My vet told me there are case cat die while vaccinated due to that fip mutation also. Surgery lagi high chance la. Usually is not recommended if you quiz the vet. But if you no quiz, my vet also won't say her opinion, buat whatever client request.

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post Apr 22 2021, 08:48 PM

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QUOTE(spunkberry @ Apr 22 2021, 02:27 PM)
Even if you think I don't know, don't deny you are projecting what you feel onto the animal.

People who weren't born don't know to complain about it. Yes people do remove testicles to prevent prostate cancer depending on your risk. Your analogies are either extreme or don't make sense at all.

There is a right and a wrong. The issue of stray animals in Malaysia is the result of people being stubborn and stupid about this. Spay and neuter your animals.
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I never deny I project human feel on animal. And I don't see any problem with it. If there's a separation of human vs animal thinking that we are more special one, that's why when ppl move house or situation when need to sacrifice human benefit, the pets are dumped. Because they are just animal.

Yeah ppl remove testicle after they know they have cancer. Not remove before cancer even happen! Duh.

I know I won't change your thinking. I post for others who are undecided to see. That's why I say no right or wrong. Each person entitled to their opinion. And I don't say ppl stubborn or stupid because it contradict with his opinion. Duh x2.


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post Apr 23 2021, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(Hobbez @ Apr 23 2021, 01:05 AM)
I didn't know all this, and it sounds scary....

But you said kitten only, what about for adults?

I suspect my cat has either FIV or FLV, although it seems controlled now. Because cat is locked up in cage, so he doesn't wander here and there....

After locked up so long, he actually gained weight and seems quite healthy now.

But still want to go out of cage....

I'm willing to let him go out, but he may not come back, since he found his new found freedom.....

Already the last time, he seems chill not coming home and I don't know he got even eat or not.

There is the risk his earlier health issues will return.
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adult less chance kena parvo. parvo likes attack kitten (according to my vet). adult usually is fip mutation or other kind of virus. i have no knowledge on all this virus too until my cats kena. one really die of parvo due to surgery and unvaccinated. when i start to pay extra to do testing for stray cat before they mingle with my house cat, I get more knowledge as vet will explain to me once i test. otherwise, you go vet, you say vaccine, they do vaccine. you say neuter, they do neuter. they won't block you or raise concern.

fiv and fcov testing cost like rm180 for 2 test. easily more expensive than vaccine. vaccine only need rm40. neuter is rm 100.

i think you have to make decision to own the cat or let it move around as stray. i did both on outside cats. those i owned is fat and healthy, living forever in my house. outside cats, as mentioned only 3/11 remaining. in fact as of today 1/11 remaining. the other 2 went missing, but i guess they move to upper part of the road because there's a new cat come and eat at my porch.

you can't save them all. can only do whatever you can. if outside cat, have to be mentally tough that they will gone missing/dead any day. i experience that 8 times (6 of them are families, die/missing 1 by 1) in 1 year. yeah it's sad but you can't do anything unfortunately. if you don't want this sadness, either you don't care them at all, so you won't have emotional attachment, or you owned them.

since now you know the cat don't like the cage, if you want to own, have to think of way how to put in cage most of the time and give them free time roam with supervision lo. gps tracker if one of the option but no safe proof.

as for gps tracker. haven't used it. i tried put a collar on black cat last time, to tell neighbors that this cat has owner. but within a week, the collar gone missing. not sure is the cat take out or human take out. cause that cat also don't like the collar. now the cat is happily in my home with her 3 children (all neutered/spayed).


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post Apr 25 2021, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(Hobbez @ Apr 25 2021, 01:06 AM)
Vaccination may be dangerous for cats who have FIV and/or FLV as their immune systems may be already compromised?

Vaccines introduce a mild form of the virus into the body right?
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Yes. That's why, if they have fiv or fcov. Better do nothing. Cause their immune system already not strong. Inject virus got chance worsen and die

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post Apr 29 2021, 06:20 PM

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QUOTE(neome @ Apr 28 2021, 11:06 PM)
Im not too worried about my indoor cat though I was thinking to get for my indoor/outdoor cat that i can nvr make fully indoor. Hes been an indoor outdoor cat for 3 yrs now, the 1st yr or so was very difficult, he got sick very frequently and had to visit the vet almost every month and one visit I had to pay at least rm90. But now he's older he rarely gets sick, i guess his immune system is much stronger but I do worry if he gets an accident or injure himself while he's outside  unsure.gif
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The thing about insurance is buy easy, claim hard. I won't bother about this personally cause I lazy do claiming process
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post Apr 29 2021, 06:26 PM

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QUOTE(keewah @ Apr 29 2021, 05:38 PM)
Good day guys, my cat seems have a 'coughing' issue lately and it happen more and more frequent... around 3-4 times per day.
It usually happen during her resting period.

Just went to vet and show this video to the docs and they said need to bring the cat for heart scan, since this age is around 9 years old, female.
3 weeks ago did bring this cat to do X-Ray scan & blood test. Both test result show the lung is normal and blood results also normal.

Would like to ask opinion here if anyone cat experience something similar ...




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Maybe bring to another vet ask? I saw such coughing cat on one of my stray cat i feed on porch. Also old cat. Then getting thiner and thinner as time goes buy. When I thought bring him to vet, but I also dily daly, he went to hangout at another house in neighbourhood.

Then after a while missing liao. Dunno die or neighbour bring inside.

I thought the stray has virus? Cause the vaccine we normally give prevent parvo and flu/cough. Since he is stray, not vaccinated. Not sure about yours though. The coughing kinda similar.
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post May 13 2021, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(WalidAnakBulus @ May 10 2021, 02:12 PM)
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Dear Cat Dads & Moms,

I have something to share and i hope someone would be able to explain this. I am an experienced cat owners, but this issue never happened to me before, which makes me sad, angry & curious.

I have a cat, named Salem. He was 3 years old. I have him since he was born (i rescued a pregnant cat). He have 4 other siblings and all of them are vaccinated, spayed/neutered, eats super premium food & stays indoor all the time. Salem (including the mother and all of his siblings) were very active, very healthy & well-fed. Even when any of them shows any sign of illness like Flu, scratch wound etc i would directly brought them to Vet. Everything went good so far.

Until last week, i've noticed Salem starts limping on his right arm, thinking of that would be a minor injury, i observed for another 1 day. Day-2, the limping area starts swelling, also he starts losing fat/muscle mass around his cheek & chest, and his body was hot, then i brought him to Vet. I've explained everything to the doctor on how serious i think the condition of Salem, and the doctor be like "no need worry lah nothing serious, no wounds no fractures, maybe he just jump & landed wrongly", the doctor even said i should stop worrying & overreacting over a small issue. And the doctor only gave Anti-Inflammatory meds. JUST THAT, and the doctor not even allow me to buy the supplement/booster or applied anything on the limping areas, they just want me to trust them as they were the Doctors.

Fine with that, i gave Salem the med, of course.. no improvements. Salem starts getting worse, he starts avoiding everyone, and lying head down most of the time. Even when i carry him, or put him on the table, he will put his head down, and he lose appetite too (i have to manually feed him). Remember, this is just 3rd day of him being sick.

Day-4, i go to the Vet again and angrily explained of what have happened, they all were shocked & scared seeing the condition of my cat since it were just yesterday i came to the clinic, and the condition was rapidly worsen. Then they shaved Salem's limping arm, they seemingly found out something, starts discussing with each other with very worrying face. And they never really told me what happened, they just "we think this might be a bacterial infection, but we're not so sure since we cannot spotted any wound". They gave me Antibiotics (FINALLY eventho its too late), and they gave me a referral letter to Specialist Hospital saying that in-case of emergency (its like they know something but they never really told me, maybe they scared of me blaming them for not doing it right the first time). And they said its a really really rare case of a cat went from very healthy to seriously ill for just 3 days.

After went back from clinic, gave the meds, nothing good. And this time he walk around everywhere pointlessly. Several hours later, he went to kitty heaven.  bye.gif  All that happens so fast, from very healthy to getting sick for just 3 days & died the next day. And he is just 3 years old.  sad.gif Yes i am angry with the doctors as they were not taking my point seriously, if they do, that would have saved Salem's life. But i am more of wanting to know what actually happened, what disease that can killed a healthy house cat in just 3 days.. If its a bacterial infections, how or where do he get such bacteria? Or he might allergic to something (since i changed the food recently)? Or any fatal insect bites that does not leave any wound (i live in a level 4 apartment btw)? Or any possible natural diseases like diabetes, nerves disorder or anything?

I need to know as i have to protect my other cats at all cost.  sad.gif  I hope anyone here can explain or share their experiences too. Thank you.
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Omg. 3 years old and suddenly gone. So scary. Sigh. The symptoms looks like fip. Lost of movement no eat and die very fast. When cats no eat, we as cat parent really worried sick. Usually it represent huge sickness. I had a parvo kitten die within 3 days too. And symptom start when no eat zzzz.

You can go test the remaining 2 cats for fcov antigen test. Fcov will mutate to fip but according to Internet stats, the mutation is low %. And fcov is easily infected if same household cats. If your 2 remaining cats no fcov, means Salem low chance die from fip. If they have fcov, means high chance fip?

I am surprised the vet no ask for virus test though.

Coincidentally basilisk post fip cure. Btw is this cure for real? Heard it's black market cure. Fb groups always see ppl asking donation. Dunno scam or real.

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post May 14 2021, 12:49 AM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ May 13 2021, 10:03 PM)
Everything (almost) is explained in the article above.
All is real.

Chinese company claim to copied GS441524 formula.

And there are people here that promote it.
All drugs need gov approval, so it is illegal for sure.

It is expensive.
So they do crowdfunding.
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Somehow months ago I also read a lot of this cure. Seems the cure is real. Problem is where to get it.

Fb group says https://www.basmifip.com/
Looks shady though the site. And tons of ppl doing crowd funding on basmifip until I can't differentiate it's real crowd funding or scam syndicate.
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post Jun 6 2021, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(JVLIEW @ Jun 6 2021, 08:34 PM)
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Hi all,

I have found these 5 kittens and I am in no capable to take care of them. Appreciate if anyone is interested could reach out to me. Thank you.

My location is PJ area.

Hope to hear from you guys soon
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So sweet and looks healthy
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post Jun 25 2021, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(latterbuoy @ Jun 22 2021, 02:57 AM)
Is it safe to leave my cat indoors in my house? She doesn't like to be caged. She doesn't like to be kept in a room. I'm afraid she'll damage the furniture when I'm not around or I'm not supervising her. Kindly advise please thank you.

Also my cat once peed at the corner of my room. She's around 1.5 years old, not neutered yet. Kindly advise please thank you.
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You just need to try. I have 6 cats free roaming for nearly 2 years d. Nothing is dmg except wallpaper cause they like to scratch. Yeah really nothing I can think of.

Those tv show vase broken this and that fake la. They even sleep in front of my TV or walk behind. Didn't push it down, finger crossed.

What you need to do is in fact precaution of their safety. Make sure there is 0 way they can get out of house. Any tiny opening they will squeeze through. Dun have plastic bag accessible. Some cat like to eat plastic. Knife keep at inaccessible place.

Edit: just thought, they dmg my cheap speaker lol. Chew off the wire. Feel funny than angry

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post Jun 25 2021, 07:53 PM

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QUOTE(neome @ Jun 25 2021, 07:09 PM)
I use normal plastic litter box, I usually will pick the biggest one available so that less litter will be thrown around when they do their business, but bigger litter box means u have to buy more litter huhuu wether to pick the closed or open one is really depends on ur cat, some cats prefer the closed one some cat will feel trapped n prefer the open one  smile.gif
omg 1 of my cats really like to chew plastic n swallow like its some kind of a snack , then he will either vomit it out or expel it out thru the other end  laugh.gif it really baffles me  rclxub.gif  what really attracted him to the plastic coz it literally tasteless and odourless to me not sure how it taste or smell to my cat tho  laugh.gif
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My cat that eat plastic got me worried. Didn't vomit out any. Not notice through the other end also. Other cats eat d will vomit out soon.

So can only hide those plastic bag but sometimes tapao d didnt clean fast enough, he eat again. Sigh
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post Jun 26 2021, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(neome @ Jun 25 2021, 11:42 PM)
ya2 i think the piece of plastic I found in the litter box is also from the vomit not the poo  hmm.gif coz the color is much lighter huhu but luckily he nvr ate a whole plastic bag before, only small pieces of plastic he sometimes found on the floor of the kitchen, even the small raffia string tht ppl use to tie plastic bag also he ate n vomit once  doh.gif but he is almost 1 year old now hope he grow out of the habit soon  biggrin.gif
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My cat also no eat full plastic. Eat the plastic ear. But sikit sikit every once a while also harmful
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post Aug 6 2021, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(peachpeach @ Aug 6 2021, 02:42 PM)
Hi all this stray mama cat came to me one month ago and she gave birth to 3 kittens days ago ! Just curious can anyone tell her breed ?

She has short tail and with characteristics similar to Japanese bobtail. But also looks like common mix tabby ???

However her kittens are all long tails ! One even with bent tail 😅 plan to put them for adoption soon.

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I guess is just domestic 😁
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post Sep 20 2021, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ Sep 17 2021, 03:11 PM)
hi all,

i do not own any cats before.
thinking of it.

however I live in an apartment on the 11th floor.

how to cat proof the balcony so that they won't go superman? without drilling can ?
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Can't find give solution but must cat proof. Else sure superman 1 day.

Btw, anyone tried auto cleaning litterbox? Plan to buy 1 on 11.11

Very expensive though
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post Sep 28 2021, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(suitface @ Sep 21 2021, 03:26 PM)
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Side i left around 15 cm to secure it, the mesh itself is quite hard so it stay in place. But for extra precaution i nail / bend it to the wall with some ikea nail.  thumbsup.gif
And i did not put the mesh all the way to the ceiling, just another 30 cm of mesh from the railing and a stick hold it in place.
At first it was only up to the railing, but caught the 2 fatty tip toeing the railing 1 night, not really mad but impressed  shakehead.gif

look a bit messy but it was rush job and last for 2 year now.

Planning to use some Telescopic Extension Pole Handle, wrap the mesh around it and fix it to the sides for more proper/tidy look
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the top is not high enough. must secured to ceiling like jail. that height, all my cats can climb over. if you don't want surprised one day, better secure it completely.
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post Sep 29 2022, 09:49 PM

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QUOTE(JZ Mak @ Apr 7 2022, 08:28 PM)
HI, my cat ady got CKD and already at stage 4 (13/14 years old) if not mistaken. It do not have any appetite at all except we pump food, secondly i just realize it also got constipation now is ady day 5 (I will bring it to consult vet for Tomorrow or Saturday). Any sifu experience enough or provide idea how i can support Cat for (CKD last stage), I just want to do what i can to provide the best quality life for for the remaining journey?
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hope your cat is still here. my cat on stage 2. now doing daily ivdrip. so susah. can't believe i gain skill to ivdrip, but still not as efficient as vet.

my plan is to bring her out jalan jalan instead of in the house, but still havent have time sad.gif. at least she taste the wild again before byebye.
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post Oct 19 2022, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(Alert_RaZO @ Oct 5 2022, 11:47 AM)
Quite sad that if a cat is sick, it decides to hide and die itself.

One of my taman cat, disappear, even the bangkai also cannot be found. Just want a closure to find the corpse bury properly.
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Yeah, dunno why like that. Encountered many times. But on the other hand, I just hope, some house actually adopted them, that's why can't see them anymore. Faint hope though

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