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post Aug 23 2007, 12:11 PM, updated 19y ago

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I & my 2 sisters contribute MYR 800 each into our joint bank account every month as we are planning to get a house @ MYR 300k once our savings have accumulated to MYR 90K which takes approximately 3 years to do so as we do not want to rush into buying a house & having trouble for repayment later should anyone of us get out of job unexpectantly .

Question is should we prolong our saving duration into 6 years then only consider buying a MYR 300K house ? Your opinions are much appreciated .
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post Aug 23 2007, 12:43 PM

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post Aug 23 2007, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(kok_hui @ Aug 23 2007, 12:43 PM)
I suggest you buy the house on your own whenever possible, don't share with ur sisters, this will minimize problems in the future.

As for you question, more cash up front is always better as you will save alot money later on the loan interest, and the monthly installment amount for 100K loan is much lower compare to 200K loan, so you won't have burden on the loan.

Of course these all depend on your needs, if you can't wait until 6 years, then buy the house after 3 years, just make sure you get the best loan package.

Wish you success.
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Thanks Kok Hui . We have the thought of giving our parents the best , us sisters are still young & very close & understanding . We have been pondering whether to get a house together or seperately but still keep coming back to the conclusion that we need a bigger house for our parents & brothers & sisters .
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post Aug 23 2007, 02:48 PM

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if possible, buy it earlier... the longer you wait, the less value your money has... with the construction material increasing at 10-20%... 6 years later you won't even get a small condo with RM300k...

then again... location is a major factor... if you don't mind traveling, passing tolls, high petrol bills, you can always go for properties out of the city... these that mentioned are quite out... rawang, seremban, nilai... which i personally don't see the point...

getting a house together will potentially lead to problems in future because all of you will lead your own lives and have different lifestyles and commitments along the way...
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post Aug 23 2007, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Aug 23 2007, 02:48 PM)
if possible, buy it earlier... the longer you wait, the less value your money has... with the construction material increasing at 10-20%... 6 years later you won't even get a small condo with RM300k...

then again... location is a major factor... if you don't mind traveling, passing tolls, high petrol bills, you can always go for properties out of the city... these that mentioned are quite out... rawang, seremban, nilai... which i personally don't see the point...

getting a house together will potentially lead to problems in future because all of you will lead your own lives and have different lifestyles and commitments along the way...
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heh , we are from Seremban . And regarding getting a house together , we would like to do the full repayment as soon as possible if things do work out eventually .
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post Aug 23 2007, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(simchi @ Aug 23 2007, 04:08 PM)
heh , we are from Seremban . And regarding getting a house together , we would like to do the full repayment as soon as possible if things do work out eventually .
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that's even better, i'm sure you can get a decent Semi-D with RM300K smile.gif

well, if all 3 of you cooperate and dump in your bonuses for 5 years, most probably your loan is pretty much done by then smile.gif

be careful of the lock-in periods of mortgage loans though... in general, these loans come with a 5 year lock-in period, if you do an early redemption, the bank will charge you a penalty... i think its 3% of the remaining loan balance...

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post Aug 23 2007, 04:59 PM

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Yeap , aiming for a Semi-D ..will only go for house hunting when we've saved enough . Need to do some calculation & tighen up our belts .
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QUOTE(simchi @ Aug 23 2007, 04:59 PM)
Yeap , aiming for a Semi-D ..will only go for house hunting when we've saved enough . Need to do some calculation & tighen up our belts .
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i recommend that you do some light research now as looking for a property is different from buying vegetables from the market tongue.gif

this way you have better options, keep track of the current and future developments around the area that you are interested in, also the price of the existing houses, what's the selling price now and a year later... then you can decide whether you want to get from developer or from secondary market...
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post Aug 23 2007, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(simchi @ Aug 23 2007, 12:11 PM)
I & my 2 sisters contribute MYR 800 each into our joint bank account every month as we are planning to get a house @ MYR 300k once our savings have accumulated to MYR 90K which takes approximately 3 years to do so as we do not want to rush into buying a house & having trouble for repayment later should anyone of us get out of job unexpectantly .

Question is should we prolong our saving duration into 6 years then only consider buying a MYR 300K house ? Your opinions are much appreciated .
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simchi,

1) Keep on saving money.

2) Do research on where you want to live.

3) Keep a close watch on the selling price of the house.

4) Wait for a recession. There will be one within the next 6 years and housing price will collapse. Buy one when you find a good bargain at the place that you want to stay.

This is like shopping.

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post Aug 23 2007, 08:37 PM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Aug 23 2007, 08:24 PM)
simchi,

1) Keep on saving money.

2) Do research on where you want to live.

3) Keep a close watch on the selling price of the house.

4) Wait for a recession.  There will be one within the next 6 years and housing price will collapse.  Buy one when you find a good bargain at the place that you want to stay.

This is like shopping.

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Dreamer101 , how could you predict there's a recession coming within the next 6 years ? Sorry for being a marketing noob . If there;s one coming in the way I guess I would save up more money and get a much lower , decent loan .
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post Aug 23 2007, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Aug 23 2007, 08:24 PM)
simchi,

1) Keep on saving money.

2) Do research on where you want to live.

3) Keep a close watch on the selling price of the house.

4) Wait for a recession.  There will be one within the next 6 years and housing price will collapse.  Buy one when you find a good bargain at the place that you want to stay.

This is like shopping.

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i agree with dreamer on keep saving money n dump in as much cash as posible to buy house rather than take high loan..

2 n 3 are standard MUST do..

4. i m not good in analysing at wat is gonna happen next , but i oso has the feeling of recession in 5-10yrs time, it had happened in the past few decades , every 10-13 yrs cycle.... the last one tht hit us was 1997 , strong bull in early 1990s , look at our share market this few weeks...
just 2cents... icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Aug 23 2007, 10:22 PM

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house first, car also can.
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post Aug 23 2007, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(ataris @ Aug 23 2007, 10:22 PM)
house first, car also can.
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post Aug 24 2007, 04:14 AM

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QUOTE(simchi @ Aug 23 2007, 08:37 PM)
Dreamer101 , how could you predict there's a recession coming within the next 6 years ? Sorry for being a marketing noob . If there;s one coming in the way I guess I would save up more money and get a much lower , decent loan .
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All,

1) Let me ask you a simple reverse question: what makes you think we WILL NOT have a recession in the next 6 years??

2) Malaysia will be a NET OIL IMPORTER in 2010 to 2012. So, no money for MEGA project.

3) Look around you. Can you see any grow or possibility of grow around you.

4) I smell a recession coming. It will happen probably after GE.

QUOTE(kok_hui @ Aug 23 2007, 09:16 PM)
Ignore the recession thing, no one know when it will come or hope it to come. In recession, you probably have no interest to take up loan and buy a new house anyway. Think of your purpose of buying this house, do you want to let your parents live in a new house in 3 years or 6 years time, you should know the answer.
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If a person has unlimited money, a person can do whatever they want. The 3 largest purchases in a person's life is car, house and higher education. Everything is negotiable. If you buy a house earlier by a few months but pay 30K to 50K extra, is it worth it?? On the other hand, you pay too much and find a bad house, you will be paying forever.

House is a very large purchase. Shop around and find the best deal.

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post Aug 24 2007, 09:27 AM

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one won't be able to predict recession...
just take it as a safety precaution as whenever there's a recession, there's an abnormal surge in the stock market, something similar to what's happening currently...
look at the Shanghai and Dow Jones' index... i guess it won't be so soon but like what Dreamer101 said, most probably it will happen in the next few years... who knows? smile.gif
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post Aug 24 2007, 09:48 AM

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I think recession most probably will hit within few years. Yes, you cannot predict recession but statistic don't lies, so it will hit more or less in a cycle.
BTW as far as I remember, during recession time you will not get a lower rate as the BLR gets higher.
Currently BLR is 6.75% while in history the lowest was 6.00% so BLR will only goes up but not down.
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post Aug 24 2007, 12:22 PM

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My point of view
If Recession happen, Loan Rate go up.
House price will remain unless go for desperate seller.

It will only benefit to those cash rich buyer, which including investor.

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post Aug 24 2007, 12:49 PM

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All ,
Your inputs are very much appreciated . Guess what is essential now is to continue to save til a certain amount . Yeap , probably will look high & low for the almost perfect house soon . These take time smile.gif
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post Aug 28 2007, 01:51 PM

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I've slightly diff opinion though :

QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Aug 23 2007, 08:24 PM)
simchi,

1) Keep on saving money.

101% agree.

2) Do research on where you want to live.

101% agree.


3) Keep a close watch on the selling price of the house.

101% agree. Monitor on a daily basis for at least a year if possible. Find out whats the lowest and average asking price, then set a price target based on your research when u have enuff $$$$$. Check out The Star, they have the most housing ads if im not mistaken.


4) Wait for a recession.  There will be one within the next 6 years and housing price will collapse.  Buy one when you find a good bargain at the place that you want to stay.

This I agree only to a certain extent. Bare in mind that during recession, interest rate can be double as compared to what u'll get now, while housing price depreciation is max 20% at best,and good locations would barely affected. 


The best way IMO(when u have enough $$$$$ ), find a desperate seller, buy 10%-20% below market rate, and get a fixed 30 years loan. That way u gain when u bought, and should the long awaited recession comes along and rates goes up to 13% again, u r covered  wink.gif   



This is like shopping.

Correct, but u should 'window-shopping' for at least 1 year 1st as its a life-long commitment

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Btw, if u r getting a fixed rate loan, get as max loan as possible. I believe in "opportunity-cost", plus cash is KING. U never know when u might need it rolleyes.gif

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