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intel going down hill bye bye the king chip
intel going down hill bye bye the king chip
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Jan 21 2021, 08:35 PM, updated 5y ago
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AMD & APPLE CHIP IS IMPROVING IN LIGHTNING SPEED WHILE INTEL IS LIKE SNAIL STILL DOING SAME THING JUST LIKE TESLA CARS VS ALL OTHER OLD CARS COMPANY
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Jan 21 2021, 09:25 PM
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QUOTE(NormalName @ Jan 21 2021, 08:35 PM) AMD & APPLE CHIP IS IMPROVING IN LIGHTNING SPEED WHILE INTEL IS LIKE SNAIL STILL DOING SAME THING JUST LIKE TESLA CARS VS ALL OTHER OLD CARS COMPANY Don't count them out yet. Pat Gelsinger is coming back. Could be like the revival of their fortunes 2-3 years down the road bananajoe liked this post
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Jan 21 2021, 09:31 PM
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QUOTE(oe_kintaro @ Jan 21 2021, 09:25 PM) Don't count them out yet. Pat Gelsinger is coming back. Could be like the revival of their fortunes 2-3 years down the road not 4-6 years at the very least? intel have issues with leadership (which pat will hopefully fix), architecture and node process (will probably have to do agreement with tsmc) |
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Jan 21 2021, 09:32 PM
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Cyrix will make a comeback. U just wait
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Jan 21 2021, 09:34 PM
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QUOTE(oe_kintaro @ Jan 21 2021, 09:25 PM) Don't count them out yet. Pat Gelsinger is coming back. Could be like the revival of their fortunes 2-3 years down the road Exactly.Don't ever count Intel out. Only this year they're going to be moving full steam ahead for 10nm desktop CPUs (apparently Xeon already started). In terms of gaming performance, Intel is still giving AMD a run for its money albeit the gap is minimal now with AMD 5000 series. |
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Jan 21 2021, 09:39 PM
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Also AMD is in Penang
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Jan 21 2021, 09:41 PM
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Jan 21 2021, 09:41 PM
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meanwhile intel's net profit is lienhow many times amd's?
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Jan 21 2021, 09:44 PM
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Last time AMD roll over Intel..until introduction of Conroe
With their old 14nm they can still catch up with 7nm Ryzen (single core) despite higher power consumption Just wait and see Alder Lake in 2nd half of 2021 Tiger Lake did ok with 10nm..maybe Alder Lake can produce surprise But Apple M1 have set a high standard to follow Seems ARM now can match X86 Both Intel and AMD must react to retain their leadership And yes new CEO may turn things around |
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Jan 21 2021, 09:48 PM
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True, i7 feels like i5, and i3, dont ask
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Jan 21 2021, 09:57 PM
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Look, I am counting on Intel to recover because if not, AMD will be the new intel You need the competition for the best stuff and value to flow back to the consumers fikku liked this post
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Jan 21 2021, 09:57 PM
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Apa lu all cakap. CCp chip in coming wei....
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Jan 21 2021, 10:02 PM
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1. Selow and lose hp market
2. Own market got overtaken by competitors 3. Architecture Revolution, ARM the future for consumers? More and more making own chips :-s This post has been edited by friendly_ip: Jan 21 2021, 10:02 PM |
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Jan 21 2021, 10:04 PM
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I was looking to buy new laptop, and need good processor. Decided on 2nd hand laptop with i7 8750h. Really bang for buck. Looking at benchmark of i7 8750h with 9th gen and 10th gen, 8th gen still win. If only i had a bit more money, i could go with r5 4600h.
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Jan 21 2021, 10:06 PM
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No one buy Intel Chips already?
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Jan 21 2021, 10:08 PM
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time amd kat bawah no one bats an eye
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Jan 21 2021, 10:53 PM
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Their stonk rallied after CEO resign. Topkek! lol
Hope new guy does a way better job. |
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Jan 21 2021, 10:56 PM
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need another lisa su to save intel |
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Jan 21 2021, 10:57 PM
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Jan 21 2021, 10:57 PM
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QUOTE(wotvr @ Jan 21 2021, 10:53 PM) In a leaked email I read months ago, it seems oldtards still pushing 14nm for years (same people working in 14nm) mostly India team that stubbornly refuse to move away. They find it comforting to stick and update 14nm... Until recently Bob Swan push more team members for 10nm but production yield issues really giving Intel a headache. 2021 hopefully will see this improve and by end of 2021, we should have 10nm Intel CPU for desktop. |
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Jan 21 2021, 10:58 PM
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AMD back from the dead n u dismiss Intel outright
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Jan 21 2021, 11:03 PM
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Intel's bread and butter, cashcow, x86 for server getting eaten up day by day. All the big tech firms are making their own chips, market is moving towards fragmentation like the 1980s. With apple M1 showing what ARM can achieve, sooner or later QCOM and MTK gonna make laptop processors that are fast enough for day to day use.
This is not something that AMD or INTC can fix easily. They need to try harder. I'd put my money on TSMC. They will be laughing all the way to bank making chips for whoever that wants it. |
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Jan 21 2021, 11:11 PM
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QUOTE(NormalName @ Jan 21 2021, 08:35 PM) AMD & APPLE CHIP IS IMPROVING IN LIGHTNING SPEED WHILE INTEL IS LIKE SNAIL STILL DOING SAME THING JUST LIKE TESLA CARS VS ALL OTHER OLD CARS COMPANY .» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Another reason is, Intel chips are over-priced or more expensive than AMD chips, for the same specifications. ....... https://www.zdnet.com/article/linus-torvald...tel-favors-amd/ - Linus Torvalds tears into Intel, favors AMD - Torvalds, Linux's creator, finds AMD's processors deliver a much bigger bang for the buck than Intel's CPUs. - January 5, 2021 . |
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Jan 21 2021, 11:15 PM
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QUOTE(Games For Windows @ Jan 21 2021, 10:57 PM) In a leaked email I read months ago, it seems oldtards still pushing 14nm for years (same people working in 14nm) mostly India team that stubbornly refuse to move away. They find it comforting to stick and update 14nm... Yes, Intel problem is mostly production issue. It also depend on company culture. I doubt a single team can be responsible for the fate of a multi billion dollar company. lolUntil recently Bob Swan push more team members for 10nm but production yield issues really giving Intel a headache. 2021 hopefully will see this improve and by end of 2021, we should have 10nm Intel CPU for desktop. But oldtards really just want to do their own thing and pretend hardworking. This is so typical. |
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Jan 22 2021, 02:33 PM
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https://www.intc.com/news-events/press-rele...nancial-results - intel-reports-third-quarter-2020-financial-results https://ir.amd.com/news-events/press-releas...nancial-results - amd-reports-third-quarter-2020-financial-results Intel has about 6X the Quarterly revenue of AMD, ie US$18 billion vs US$3 billion, even though the revenue of Intel has stagnated while AMD has increased substantially. Intel needs to up its game, eg go all-in in 10nm node and 8-Cores or more processors. . |
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Jan 22 2021, 02:34 PM
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Well, intel is very cash rish and big. They have the resources to bounce back. Won't count them out yet. May take a while
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Jan 22 2021, 02:37 PM
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Intel is just down right now,as they bet on the wrong horse.
But please google how much is Intel R&D outlay versus AMD R&D. Matter of time before they catch up and lead again. |
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Jan 22 2021, 04:45 PM
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Jan 22 2021, 05:37 PM
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who asked them quit Penang?
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