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if you buying an item for RM750, and suddenly cashier ask
 
do u want to pay full amount [ 17 ] ** [31.48%]
do u want to split into 3 months [ 37 ] ** [68.52%]
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knumskul
post Jan 13 2021, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(marfccy @ Jan 13 2021, 04:23 PM)
whats the bloody diff TS of paying 0% interest for 3 months versus 12 months

normally people pick the longest tenure so their cash can be used elsewhere for investment or other side gigs. use money to make more money

now you reduce lesser tenure so.. they pay more?

what am i missing here
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Longer tenure encourages sales, but bigger risk of defaulting. Got sales to pad numbers but no payment also no point.

You're assuming the youth will use their free cash responsibly, like investments and side gigs. Certain statistics (PTPTN defaulters & youth bankruptcies) say otherwise.
PTPTN is a key issue as it keeps coming up as a key point in power hungry politicians' promises in recent years.

Business owners need to weigh the risks. Still a good system but offer at your own risk I guess.
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post Jan 13 2021, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(knumskul @ Jan 13 2021, 04:56 PM)
Longer tenure encourages sales, but bigger risk of defaulting. Got sales to pad numbers but no payment also no point.

You're assuming the youth will use their free cash responsibly, like investments and side gigs. Certain statistics (PTPTN defaulters & youth bankruptcies) say otherwise.
PTPTN is a key issue as it keeps coming up as a key point in power hungry politicians' promises in recent years.

Business owners need to weigh the risks. Still a good system but offer at your own risk I guess.
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youre missing the point

its perks are solely on the business, yes since can get money faster. but for consumer whats the benefit?

why would someone pick 3 months when banks already let them pay in 6/12 months lol

thats my point
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post Jan 13 2021, 05:02 PM

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If everyone is like me... I doubt it would make much of a difference. I make a point to limit my commitments at any one time which is determined entirely on my excess money at the end of the days prior to receiving the current months salary.

If I already have commitments I will not take another commitment until the current commitment had been settled.
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post Jan 13 2021, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(LarryPizzaGuy @ Jan 13 2021, 03:31 PM)
It's all down to how good are the enforcement are in Malaysia.

PTPTN managed to blacklist PTPTN borrowers on a no-fly-list preventing them from flying out of Malaysia unless they've paid up the amount they've owed.
It's bad for those who need to work+travel frequently.

However for those who are permanently based in Malaysia, being a bad PTPTN paymaster will severely affect their credit score and thus comes to my point below..

Like similar credit facilities offered by financial institution, being a bad paymaster will affect your credit score and until the point where the buyer can be blacklisted in CCRIS. Thus the buyer won't be able to request/receive any financial services/loans/card applications from any legal financial institution in Malaysia. Ah long/Father-Mother/Family/Crowd-funding is a different story.

Until now I've yet to see a proper enforcement towards PTPTN borrowers, the best course of action is mandatory salary deduction (instead of voluntarily).
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The salary deduction method is used by Aus right now. But the repayment amount is linked to how much you earn. Think its anyone that earns below 55k a year doesnt need to pay anything back and the repayment amount increases the more you earn capping at 10%.

This system is quite good since low income earners dont have to burden their selves with immediately repaying the loan. But the one loophole is that they can't track what people earn overseas. So its easy to just declare zero income in Aus and continue to not pay the loan
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post Jan 13 2021, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(marfccy @ Jan 13 2021, 04:59 PM)
youre missing the point

its perks are solely on the business, yes since can get money faster. but for consumer whats the benefit?

why would someone pick 3 months when banks already let them pay in 6/12 months lol

thats my point
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Do banks offer 0% interest? Is it easier to get this split payment via retailers?
Asking as I really don't know.

If its way easier to get 3 months from retailer, most would choose this option.
Same reason why many go to ah long instead of banks. This is still a type of 'loan'.

The convenience factor plays a big part, especially for us lazy ass Malaysians. Especially the youth when it comes to expenditure.


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post Jan 13 2021, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(ClericKilla @ Jan 13 2021, 11:56 AM)
Do you think this is healthy for the young or it is still inevitable that the wealth gap will widen with this form of payment?
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I feel like it will still encourage overspending, so definitely not healthy. If you want to buy something and you can't afford paying it in full, instead of splitting into 3 payments, save the money and buy it 3 months later.
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post Jan 13 2021, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(ClericKilla @ Jan 13 2021, 11:56 AM)
All of the below statement is personal observation and opinion of TS's and does not reflect the real workings of the world.

As the country grows, perhaps the wealth gap widens if this is not addressed carefully through policy and fiscal stimulus in the market, creating the gap disparity.

On the observation and hypothesis of young HKers, or NYC the young are more focused on themselves, in personal and career aspects.

One will get married but does not wish to conceive a child. Hence, the hard-earned money is used to pay rents, expenses, and self-care/self-improvement/self-wants.

It can be watches, clothes, home improvement, gadgets (let's not go into big houses or cars). These are not huge in purchase prices but slowly buying it will accumulate more commitment to pay them.

There are two options, if you save enough you buy it outright or bill it on the credit card and pay end of the month.

However, there is a third option, remain a young untapped market but a few start-up is doing it.

Split your payment into three months, interest free (yes we know about 12months ezpayment, but this is different).

This 'split your payment' can be used on smaller prices products, eg Nike sneakers RM750

Split 3
RM250 per month x 3

This is definitely more appealing for people to BUY IT outright since payment is only RM250, next month is next month's problem.

Come discuss if this untapped market needs to move faster in Malaysia because AU, EU, US, CHN is moving towards that era. Recently Paypal is offering this service as well to stay relevant in the money transfer industry.

Do you think this is healthy for the young or it is still inevitable that the wealth gap will widen with this form of payment?
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There r already few companies doing this. Hoolah, paywithsplit and Atome.

The good thing about this is u can use debit card but max is for 3 months only. Good for ppl without credit card.


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post Jan 13 2021, 05:20 PM

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i ingat split check when lepas makan

this one girl always like this
luckily I no friend her already

5 FUCKING CENT PUN NAK WEH
satu sen pun she berkira
majibai go die la fucker
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post Jan 13 2021, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(marfccy @ Jan 13 2021, 04:59 PM)
youre missing the point

its perks are solely on the business, yes since can get money faster. but for consumer whats the benefit?

why would someone pick 3 months when banks already let them pay in 6/12 months lol

thats my point
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Because there are people who would prefer to pay for a period of 3 months.

This split payment system is catered towards people who aren't financially "savvy"; more towards old school mak cik/ah pak/debit card type of people who prefers a simple monthly repayment scheme (excluding those fancy 0% interest terminology).

Payment plans 6 or 12months instalment with XXX% interest are subject to bank's approval and the individual credit health score, whereas Split payment evaluates the candidates differently.

Split payment opens offers consumers another means of easy/simplified monthly payment plan.
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post Jan 13 2021, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(Teddysaur @ Jan 13 2021, 05:20 PM)
i ingat split check when lepas makan

this one girl always like this
luckily I no friend her already

5 FUCKING CENT PUN NAK WEH
satu sen pun she berkira
majibai go die la fucker
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CB 5sen pun nak kira... pagi dia sapkok dulu then bagi 5sen foc la...
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post Jan 13 2021, 05:29 PM

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Want to use paylater option for my business.

Only worry is who acts as the debt collector. My business gets paid upfront, and if buyers don't pay creditor its their problem?
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post Jan 13 2021, 05:31 PM

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Money now is better than money later

But 3 months later for such a small amount makes not much sense. But for a short term cash injection maybe
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post Jan 13 2021, 07:35 PM

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Currently 0% offer for Credit card. If 3month how to ensure buyer not run away. The risk is there with 0% interest unless seller markup atleast rm10 for the all upcoming risk.
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post Jan 13 2021, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(LarryPizzaGuy @ Jan 13 2021, 05:28 PM)
CB 5sen pun nak kira... pagi dia sapkok dulu then bagi 5sen foc la...
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cannot less langsung
sometimes so kesian and shameful when said to her
later i give you the 20 cents

and she be like OK

LOL!!!!
means she really looks forward to get the 20 cents

If me I already ask campak je la 20 cents so bodoh

even rm1 also stingy

harga rm16

i said only have rm15 no small change

she would say nevermind, once you have the rm1 you give me later

wtf when forgot and no bagi will text, when can you give me my rm1?

wtf
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post Jan 13 2021, 08:35 PM

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QUOTE(Efalex @ Jan 13 2021, 04:37 PM)
It's damn good...buy a 1K laptop but just need to pay RM 100 for 6 months only. Wonder when this seller gonna go bankrupt?
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Hahaha what the hell. Brainfart. I meant Rm166. But you get the point.
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post Jan 14 2021, 03:20 PM

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