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 MCO 2.0 and renovation works, Is it allowed?

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kuchaikway
post Jan 14 2021, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(ComingBackSoon @ Jan 14 2021, 10:03 PM)
So no link. Empty bottles always sound the loudest.

Since you have no evidence, and have a big ego and wont admit your mistake, I resr my case.

I also dont need to prove anything to you, as you are a nobody and cant do shit to me. 

As long as my renovation gets done, I am able to save money, my contractors and their workers get paid, Im happy, police happy everyone is happy.

Kuchaiway from lowyat’s happiness is not even on my concern list.
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Congratulations ... you argue your case like a 8-year old school boy. Who is the one first accusing someone as nobody?

I see your past posts and see that you have the maturity of a toddler. I am sure you will save money, save the world (and those poor contractor's workers), and blah blah blah. I am sure you are not violating any law because you are always right including using a strata guideline for landed properties? When you can't even differentiate construction project from renovation project I already know that you haven't read the Miti's guidelines which clearly define what is Construction and what is Service under the MCO guidelines. Just stop showing your stupidity please.

This post has been edited by kuchaikway: Jan 14 2021, 10:21 PM
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post Jan 14 2021, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(kuchaikway @ Jan 14 2021, 10:16 PM)
Congratulations ... you argue your case like a 8-year old school boy.  Who is the one first accusing someone as nobody?

I see your past posts and see that you have the maturity of a toddler.  I am sure you will save money, save the world (and those poor contractor's workers), and blah blah blah.  I am sure you are not violating any law because you are always right including using a strata guideline for landed properties?  When you can't even differentiate construction project from renovation project I already know that you haven't read the Miti's guidelines which clearly define what is Construction and what is Service under the MCO guidelines.  Just stop showing your stupidity please.
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Im still waiting...
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post Jan 14 2021, 11:07 PM

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QUOTE(ComingBackSoon @ Jan 14 2021, 10:25 PM)
Im still waiting...
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I think mr k is referring to this ...
https://m.malaysiakini.com/news/558609

The definitions are very specific and renovation doesn’t fit into Construction and/or Service category. So I think for those that are not specifically mentioned like renovation best is pretend you don’t know and plead for exception if checked by authorities. Most importantly be nice to your neighbors because it will be a different story if they are complaining.
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post Jan 14 2021, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(blancpain4470 @ Jan 14 2021, 11:07 PM)
I think mr k is referring to this ...
https://m.malaysiakini.com/news/558609

The definitions are very specific and renovation doesn’t fit into Construction and/or Service category. So I think for those that are not specifically mentioned like renovation best is pretend you don’t know and plead for exception if checked by authorities. Most importantly be nice to your neighbors because it will be a different story if they are complaining.
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Thanks for the link. I could argue that renovation does fit into construction/service (what else would it fit into!?), but that's a weak argument that would spark endless debate.

Here's a better argument - the document you referred to has been superceded. This document is just a "cadangan" and it writes clearly "sehingga 10 Januari 2021". Also take note of item 37 of the cadangan, which reads

Apa-apa perkhidmatan, kerja, industri dan perniagaan sebagaimana yang ditentukan oleh Menteri Kesihatan selepas berunding dengan pihak berkuasa yang mengawal selia perkhidmatan, kerja, industri dan perniagaan itu.

And the pihak berkuasa for renovation i.e., KPKT has issued their own guidelines - in which renovation is permitted - on 12 January 2021. This is the latest guideline available for us to adhere to. If someone can show me a more updated document saying renovation is not permitted, then I will admit my mistake and shut up.

Yes agree will be nice to neighbours, whether or not I am renovating I will do that. Will never mess with neighbours.

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post Jan 15 2021, 12:14 AM

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QUOTE(ComingBackSoon @ Jan 14 2021, 11:39 PM)
Thanks for the link. I could argue that renovation does fit into construction/service (what else would it fit into!?), but that's a weak argument that would spark endless debate.

Here's a better argument - the document you referred to has been superceded. This document is just a "cadangan" and it writes clearly "sehingga 10 Januari 2021". Also take note of item 37 of the cadangan, which reads

Apa-apa perkhidmatan, kerja, industri dan perniagaan sebagaimana yang ditentukan oleh Menteri Kesihatan selepas berunding dengan pihak berkuasa yang mengawal selia perkhidmatan, kerja, industri dan perniagaan itu.

And the pihak berkuasa for renovation i.e., KPKT has issued their own guidelines -  in which renovation is permitted - on 12 January 2021. This is the latest guideline available for us to adhere to. If someone can show me a more updated document saying renovation is not permitted, then I will admit my mistake and shut up.

Yes agree will be nice to neighbours, whether or not I am renovating I will do that. Will never mess with neighbours.
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Read carefully. Last page pg16 is dated Jan 12. The first page probably no change/update since Jan 10. A far as I know this is the latest that I have seen. KPKT one is only for strata related issues/questions.
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post Jan 15 2021, 12:34 AM

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Come come everyone I share the latest SOP available on MKN website for pembinaan dated 13 January 2021.

https://asset.mkn.gov.my/web/wp-content/upl...2021-edited.pdf

Then I teach you another trick, even if your contractor don't apply for MITI, you can apply to MITI yourself. Someone shared this with me and just tell me to "pandai pandai la ya".

https://www.miti.gov.my/redir/pkp/cims.html

Untuk yang berani saja. Kalau takut mampus or noob at putar belit when authorities come, just stop work.

Peace.
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post Jan 15 2021, 12:22 PM

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okay. case close.
apply or not. kena saman or not.. your choice...

main thing.... be nice to your neighbor.. because it's them would make your life & renovation easier or hard for u.... I mean if they report... GG esp if not follow local guidance (ilegal extension etc.)... they happy, everyone happy....
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post Jan 16 2021, 01:08 AM

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I had the same questions whether can renovate landed property or not.
So to clarify that i went to MPAJ official FB page and asked the question today. They replied that can proceed to renovate as long as already got the official MPAJ permit. In my case i already got my official permit so i can start but definitely need to ensure to follow the standard SOPs such as setup a temperature checker and the log books/QR code. Last but not least don't mess with your neighbors since its PKP most of them will be at home.
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post Jan 17 2021, 11:03 AM

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Just to let you guys know..my contractor just got MITI approval.

Only two workers (indonesion) are allowed and they will need to stay here.

So my kitchen and room 4 will be thier place to sleep.

Using plywood, we have setup barrier between my dining area and the kitchen..hence, no access anymore..

Hope, this will help.you guys




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post Jan 17 2021, 11:32 AM

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In case this helps anyone, esp those staying in apartment/condo, also depends on management. My management does allow renovation as long as SOP is followed (ie. apply at MITI, then present proof of COVID test of workers, etc.).

But of course, there are also the things to consider such as if your contractor and workers have to travel inter-district, if their workers are all legal (let's be real, many of them aren't...), and if everyone is stuck at home during MCO would you want to add to the stress of the residents with noisy renovations esp if the work is major... haha. Plus, the limited workers allowed in your place may affect quality of workmanship too, esp if they need to rush to meet pre-CNY deadlines.

Don't stress OK, I know everyone's priorities are different but safety first!
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post Jan 17 2021, 01:43 PM

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No construction during MCO — Works Ministry
https://www.edgeprop.my/content/1786845/no-...-works-ministry
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post Jan 17 2021, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jan 17 2021, 01:43 PM)
No construction during MCO — Works Ministry
https://www.edgeprop.my/content/1786845/no-...-works-ministry
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Typical example of reading only the headline and not the content of the article. Please read.
Allowed with conditions and approval by MITI.

Please refer and quote only official gov SOP.
https://www.kpkt.gov.my/resources/index/Hom...KP_12012021.pdf

Also ps. Don’t be lazy to scroll to previous pages of this thread, we have already concluded.

Stay safe and cheers everyone!

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