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 JB's Evolution: the Potential to become Shenzhen.., Iskandar Malaysia

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gnc88
post Feb 2 2024, 06:45 AM

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JB Opera house also xde maintain.. so ugly. Sweep the roads, redo infrastructure... so many maintenance needs to be done first.
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post Feb 19 2025, 07:48 AM

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lol.. let's not fool ourselves. JB can never be Shenzen which is a in type C country. With SEZ, JB will simply be a manufacturing backyard of Sg.
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post Feb 19 2025, 08:33 AM

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QUOTE(somewhataut @ Feb 19 2025, 07:55 AM)
It is set to become the wealthiest city in Malaysia

Better snatch a few properties, Price now hasn’t reached its full potential
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Don’t listen to the sales talk by Gov. They said the same thing about Forest city etc. Yet so many kena burn due to belakang pusing gov policies etc. If a development doesn’t line their pockets, they just abandon plan.

Think about this for SEZ. All manufacturing works go to JB. Meaning to say all MY folks working in Sg forced to relocate back to MY. So instead of being paid in Sg, now they need to take home MYR - starting salary RM5K (SEZ). As for Sg, they take up all the fancy clean and sexy industries, which a chunk of folks crossing the border does not have the skill sets or knowledge. So gg to those highly leverage on MY property thinking their golden goose (Sg paycheck) will continue. If this were to happen, folks will need to let go these properties causes an unexpected surplus of properties.

In terms of properties, Johor has abundance of land. If property prices go up high, Sunway/Setia/IOI will simply build another township causing a surplus of property supply. Developers simply build, sale and walk away, while buyers left high and dry with subpar maintenance issues etc.

To be frank, only way to drive property prices up in JB solidly, is to build a damn casino.

This post has been edited by gnc88: Feb 19 2025, 08:38 AM
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post Feb 19 2025, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(somewhataut @ Feb 19 2025, 09:00 AM)
In physics, fluids move from high-pressure areas to low-pressure areas due to a pressure gradient. Similarly, Singapore’s high economic pressure—driven by rising costs, labor shortages, and housing unaffordability—creates a natural outflow of demand toward Johor Bahru, where the “economic pressure” is lower (cheaper land, housing, and labor). This process is akin to diffusion or fluid flow in a system seeking equilibrium.

Singapore and JB form an interconnected economic system where pressure differences drive movement. While some argue JB has an oversupply of land, the real question is where demand will concentrate—and right now, the natural economic forces indicate that high-value areas near infrastructure and business hubs will absorb Singapore’s economic overflow, pushing property values up in those zones.

Thus, JB’s property market isn’t purely speculative—it’s a natural economic consequence of pressure differentials between the two cities.
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Although economic pressure differentials can drive demand, the supply side must also be considered. JB has a history of overbuilding and an oversupply of properties. This oversupply can lead to speculative buying, where investors purchase properties not for immediate use but in anticipation of future price increases.

Despite JB’s proximity to Singapore, current infrastructure is clearly insufficient to support a significant increase in cross-border commuting or business activities. Even with RTS at 10K/hr, with peak hour window being only 2-3 hrs, there's very limited number of folks can do the cross-border commute.

Investors consider political and economic stability, legal frameworks, and other risks when investing in property. Malaysia’s regulatory environment and economic stability is not as attractive as Singapore’s, leading to hesitation amongst investors. While Singapore faces high costs, it also offers higher wages and better quality of life, which may mitigate the outflow of demand.

In short, only time will tell if Johor can make good use of this opportunity or the Fed gov instability will just make this into another big blunder.

This post has been edited by gnc88: Feb 19 2025, 11:11 AM

 

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