i know having good grounding does smoothen a lot of things....but 700 plus for 1 copper cable isn't excessive ?
i feel like can DIY it myself. for <100 bucks by using some good grade copper cable
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Dec 13 2020, 01:36 AM, updated 5y ago
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Recently....saw a video talking about car grounding cable.
i know having good grounding does smoothen a lot of things....but 700 plus for 1 copper cable isn't excessive ? i feel like can DIY it myself. for <100 bucks by using some good grade copper cable |
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Dec 13 2020, 01:38 AM
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Buy one roll of thick cables, cable lugs and compression tool.
DIY is cheaper. |
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Dec 13 2020, 01:39 AM
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Sorry how does grounding smoothen things out?
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Dec 13 2020, 01:42 AM
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Last time I grounded my car, it added 10 hp.
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Dec 13 2020, 01:43 AM
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QUOTE(RGRaj @ Dec 13 2020, 01:42 AM) mine is 5hp only. same as my sticker. babisotong and death mask liked this post
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Dec 13 2020, 01:53 AM
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QUOTE(dest9116 @ Dec 13 2020, 01:39 AM) If your car is old or improperly grounded, the cables have more resistances.The will be minimal improvements gained from improving the grounding. https://www.carreviewsncare.com/voltage-sta...-myth-and-fact/ |
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Dec 13 2020, 02:12 AM
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Hmmmmmmm
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Dec 13 2020, 02:14 AM
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Dec 13 2020, 02:16 AM
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I did the grounding before. Zero noticeable effect. Placebo also don't have.
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Dec 13 2020, 02:17 AM
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QUOTE(ledtechn @ Dec 13 2020, 02:16 AM) based on the sharing...your car must be old enough to have noticeable effect>10years car dogbert_chew liked this post
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Dec 13 2020, 02:21 AM
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Go electrical shop buy cable and DIY
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Dec 13 2020, 02:29 AM
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QUOTE(IMF2025 @ Dec 13 2020, 01:43 AM) cable 5hp, + sticker 5hp = 10 hp. the max limit increase is 10hp. babisotong and cempedaklife liked this post
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Dec 13 2020, 08:27 AM
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QUOTE(Hattori @ Dec 13 2020, 01:53 AM) If your car is old or improperly grounded, the cables have more resistances. So how does earthing the car reduces the resistance inside the wires?The will be minimal improvements gained from improving the grounding. https://www.carreviewsncare.com/voltage-sta...-myth-and-fact/ |
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Dec 13 2020, 08:34 AM
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One thing most important when doing this grounding is ensure all cables are tied down properly.
I kena 1 cable was on a aircon aluminium (or is it copper) pipe. It was not tied down so due to vibrations from the engine, the Grounding wire keep hitting the pipe until got hole. Very expensive to repair. Some more got warranty SC open my engine bay and point out the grounding cable was the root cause. So need to pay my own money for the repairs. |
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Dec 13 2020, 08:38 AM
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700 for ground cable? Topkek. At most I would pay 100 for professionally done for one cable, usually there would be three.
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Dec 13 2020, 08:40 AM
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pity the car
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Dec 13 2020, 08:49 AM
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Eh? Not tie chain to bumper and let it drag on floor?
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Dec 13 2020, 08:53 AM
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My car stciker alone alreay gained 10hp... no need grounding...
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Dec 13 2020, 08:53 AM
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Stupidity till eternity.
Luckily I drive conti car, my ecu can till me if my ground isn't tight Bottom line snake oil if ur car doesn't have big speaker amps and modified alternator/battery or corroded wire to put the stupid thing |
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if your car you cheapskate replaced with oem or halfcut spare parts and your car has all sorts of ah beng modified like audio, lights, then adding grounding has some good side to audio and lights but that does not add any bhp.
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QUOTE(Avex @ Dec 13 2020, 08:58 AM) if your car you cheapskate replaced with oem or halfcut spare parts and your car has all sorts of ah beng modified like audio, lights, then adding grounding has some good side to audio and lights but not adding bhp. My previous toyota seg blacktop has grounding issues. Particularly very obvious on hard to start and also during accelerations. So i put in 4 points 100% copper grounding cables. No more hard start and accelerations become smoother. Oh that car is over 20 years old so the original grounding cable already corroded/oxidised. |
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QUOTE(dest9116 @ Dec 13 2020, 08:27 AM) It's adding fresh new cables to provide more paths for grounding, if existing cables are no longer reliable or efficient.Electricity will travel through the path of least resistance. Roman Catholic liked this post
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Dec 13 2020, 09:20 AM
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Car electrical is DC.... Still need grounds?
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Dec 13 2020, 09:21 AM
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Got feel 1. Becoz the ground cable is new/ better quality, coz i changed once, and the pickup feeling is different, but there wont be any hp increase....so yes u r rite, its kinda sohai to do that, hehehe.
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QUOTE(kennykong85 @ Dec 13 2020, 09:21 AM) Got feel 1. Becoz the ground cable is new/ better quality, coz i changed once, and the pickup feeling is different, but there wont be any hp increase....so yes u r rite, its kinda sohai to do that, hehehe. Agree there will be a better feel especially after replacing old grounding cable.However, spending RM799 TS posted video grounding cables are madness. |
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Dec 13 2020, 09:36 AM
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Dec 13 2020, 09:51 AM
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aiayah when parking, just tie a wire from car body to the pagar overnight can oredi ma
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Dec 13 2020, 10:00 AM
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if your car isn't that old and u never mess with the cabling of the car
u don't have to worry about grounding problem as it is well grounded by the car manufacturer |
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Dec 13 2020, 10:04 AM
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hoi gemuk tayar tak pancit ke?
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Dec 13 2020, 10:06 AM
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Can diy la..go buy any zero oxide 4awg cable and a few cable lug and you good..
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Dec 13 2020, 11:35 PM
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How many years should i change once?
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I hate this kind of edit. Potong. Potong. Potong. Potong. Headache listening to this kind of video.
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Also, if your existing ground cables already rosak, already oxidized, already uzur, rust, whatever, then changing it surely helps.
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QUOTE(skywardsword @ Dec 13 2020, 09:20 AM) Grounding a car doesn't mean earthing, the entire body/chasis of a car is essentially a negative electrode. Sometimes the connection is not as great. Notice that a sparkplug has only one cable going in, as the engine connects directly to it as a negative point skywardsword liked this post
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QUOTE(noien @ Dec 13 2020, 09:36 AM) dah tak active for long2 timeQUOTE(MR_alien @ Dec 13 2020, 10:00 AM) if your car isn't that old and u never mess with the cabling of the car well....it doesnt mess with your existing wiring.u don't have to worry about grounding problem as it is well grounded by the car manufacturer is just adding another cable to the negative terminal of the battery and simply bolt it to the component that has skru hole. thats plug n play. QUOTE(rudduan @ Dec 13 2020, 10:06 AM) yup, janji got some pure copper cable with high quality sleeving and you are good to goQUOTE(skyuo23 @ Dec 13 2020, 11:35 PM) you dont change but add it. |
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QUOTE(Thrust @ Dec 13 2020, 09:23 AM) Agree there will be a better feel especially after replacing old grounding cable. is absurd to spent that kind of money. on just yet another cable.However, spending RM799 TS posted video grounding cables are madness. but hey...he just another jewtuber making content to earn a living. |
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QUOTE(herojack41 @ Dec 13 2020, 01:36 AM) Recently....saw a video talking about car grounding cable. it will not last long when ur car engine adopted to it it will become normal again , also the connection will be oxidizedi know having good grounding does smoothen a lot of things....but 700 plus for 1 copper cable isn't excessive ? i feel like can DIY it myself. for <100 bucks by using some good grade copper cable |
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QUOTE(herojack41 @ Dec 13 2020, 01:36 AM) Recently....saw a video talking about car grounding cable. Cablesi know having good grounding does smoothen a lot of things....but 700 plus for 1 copper cable isn't excessive ? i feel like can DIY it myself. for <100 bucks by using some good grade copper cable This is way good enough, I dont think it requires as much as he said. |
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QUOTE(bereev @ Dec 14 2020, 08:02 PM) it will not last long when ur car engine adopted to it it will become normal again , also the connection will be oxidized connection oxidized? do some metal polishing loh QUOTE(anthonywongy @ Dec 14 2020, 08:03 PM) not sure...but i see lots of ppl recommending 4AWG gauge wire.....kinda thick thou.does it require that thick |
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this one cheaper but not sure seller still active or not
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QUOTE(herojack41 @ Dec 14 2020, 08:05 PM) connection oxidized? do some metal polishing loh If you planning to ground your body ground battery, alternator + to battery, engine ground chasis, a high copper surface 1/0 or 4AWG will be good enough. Im running a parallel 12v and it does help a bit with overall charging, I was dragging my alternator at first because its not for parallel, but at least after thicker grounding, everything charge @ normal rate 14.3v±.not sure...but i see lots of ppl recommending 4AWG gauge wire.....kinda thick thou. does it require that thick This post has been edited by anthonywongy: Dec 14 2020, 08:12 PM |
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That's how you stay fat, sell snake oil
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QUOTE(anthonywongy @ Dec 14 2020, 08:11 PM) If you planning to ground your body ground battery, alternator + to battery, engine ground chasis, a high copper surface 1/0 or 4AWG will be good enough. Im running a parallel 12v and it does help a bit with overall charging, I was dragging my alternator at first because its not for parallel, but at least after thicker grounding, everything charge @ normal rate 14.3v±. i remember 14v is the optimal when the car runningQUOTE(komzaz @ Dec 14 2020, 08:15 PM) QUOTE(Kushion_kek @ Dec 14 2020, 08:31 PM) Last time I install relay switch for the headlights and do grounding at that area. Much better, brighter and won't go dim when engine low rev good grounding does bring a lot of benefit.but there is also "voltage stabilizer " which is bunch of capacitor being added. |
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QUOTE(herojack41 @ Dec 14 2020, 09:17 PM) i remember 14v is the optimal when the car running You dont want it under 13.8v or over 14.5v.. impossible to be exact 14v, new vios unit all came in with alterntor charging@ 13.6v..good grounding does bring a lot of benefit. but there is also "voltage stabilizer " which is bunch of capacitor being added. |
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