Asking for my sister.
Her children now have to use notebook for home study.
Now children is studying form 6. Hope that this notebook can still use when she go university.

1. Budget :RM3000
2. Usage : Home study. Online studying which watch the youtube. Video conferencing. Word/Excel/powerpoint.... (No need high end as she is not going to play those high end game)
3. Requirements (standard display size, battery and weight all common as this price range don't have much choice.)

She dunno about notebook. Hope someone here can give some idea and spec so that when she go to computer shop, she know what spec to look for this price.

eg. CPU Intel can go i5 or i3 only with this price?
ram must 8 gb right for win 10?
graphic card build in or gtx 1650 should enough as she not play game.
ssd is 256gb but how to know it is good ssd or not? How know it is Dramless SSD or not in the notebook? most of the time they not list out the brand for ssd.

Hope someone give some idea. Thanks



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Just see this Laptop.
https://www.dell.com/en-my/shop/laptops-and...6055304myw10tgl

Anyone can give opinion for this?
This price for this spec consider good? for Form 6 study and future university.

1cent comment.

since that is the only workload.

<rm2k will do the job

literally any laptop within budget from lenovo
the concerns you raised is irrelevant based on what youve described about her needs and habits

i would recommend this Dell Inspiron 14 AMD Ryzen™ 5 4500U

https://www.dell.com/en-my/shop/laptops-and...6054101oppmyw10


AMD Ryzen™ 5 4500U Mobile Processor with Radeon™ Graphics

Windows 10 Home Single Language (64bit)

AMD Radeon™ Graphics with shared graphics memory

8GB, 1x8GB, DDR4, 3200MHz

256GB M.2 PCIe NVMe Solid State Drive

color Platinum Silver

Online Price RM 2,699.00

This post has been edited by sickworms: Dec 12 2020, 12:39 PM

Futureproof, lightweight, within 3,000 -> Helium 4R.

The problem is she don't know when go to university, that time she may need to install some program which got some requirement.
Maybe photoshop/ autocad,.....and whats ever.

Get Legion 5
6 Core & 12 Thread processor
16GB of RAM, enough for whatever editing she needs to do
Dedicated GPU GTX 1650, also good for photo / video editing
256GB SSD for fast operation + 1TB HDD for storing data, document, photo & video
2 year international onsite warranty
Very good cooling with separate heatsink for CPU & GPU

All of this for an extra RM300+



This post has been edited by sHawTY: Dec 12 2020, 02:02 PM

Her price range is RM3000. Can go to RM3500 only.
The link that I post which is dell model. That one ok or not.
Intel 11th gen
8gb ram.
graphic.

If you look purely from performance per dollar, Legion 5 is miles ahead of the Dell notebook.

Get a used ThinkPad under 1k

Form 6 no need powerful hardware unless you are undergraduate of certain engineering

Intel is overpriced for the performance. Its like buying a proton saga for RM200k.

Current (4xxx series) Ryzen series much better from performance AND power consumption (vs old ryzen or current gen intel).

Hence get a machine with 16GB RAM. Office work on 8GB machine is suffocating (few excel tabs, remote desktop, copy thousands of lines SQL result). When you actually need to open many tabs and refer many journals and stuff like that for research (in uni), the 16GB will make life much better. Also when you wanna do some actual Excel work involve many tabs and filter function.

I think for the 3k range one can get a FHD screen at least. 1366x768 hurts the eyes because usually constructed of dim screen (not enough nits).

https://www.lenovo.com/my/en/laptops/thinkp...d/p/22TPX13X3A2

The weight of X series (1.3kg) is well appreciated especially if one likes to watch movies with the laptop on chest.
E series is kinda heavy and uncomfortable (1.7kg).

SME/Business grade laptop easily last 10 years. I still have my Dell Vostro (1.86kg THEN from 2008) working with new SSD.

This post has been edited by ceo684: Dec 12 2020, 06:41 PM

Wow, thanks bro for sharing this did not know such product exist! Would definitely check it out

For future proof

i5 10th Gen Intel (make sure code name Comet Lake (14nm) and not Ice Lake)
RAM 16GB (DDR4)
SSD (256 GB or 512 GB)

Graphic card no need, just depend on integrated GPU in Intel or AMD is fine.

If you want lightweight with power-brick, do not include high-end GPU like GTX or AMD Pro. Having powerful would mean would need larger power-brick, and I doubt GPU useful, even for simulation program or autoCAD program. autoCAD also need Quadro type for accuracy purposes and majority of GPU are for gaming and video rendering. Which I doubt FORM 6 and University would need much of it (unless enroll into media creator career path)

Microsoft powerpoint do not need discreet GPU
Watching movie do not need discreet GPU
Browsing website Firefox/Chrome do not need discreet GPU
Using Google Sheet Google Docs do not need discreet GPU
Connect to cafe wifi / University wifi do not need discreet GPU
Photoshop do not need discreet GPU

Only use GPU for gaming purposes and heavy video rendering

tldr;

https://www.techhypermart.com/notebooks&fil...,3603,1450,1469

Refine laptops around the specs, you may want to decrease RAM from 16GB down to 8GB, or SSD down to 256GB.

Do note that 128 GB SSD is not feasible. Windows 10 already will take 20 GB, and give or take updates would cost additional 10 GB. Total of 30 GB goes to Operating System, plus Microsoft Office and such would easily climb to 60 GB in total. Leaving you only 50 GB of space (128GB - 60GB)

The integrated "GPU" of ryzen 4500 will still be able to run some light gaming https://youtu.be/o-ArSfPYDSI without the need for dedicated GPU.

????
The screenshot I shared to you is only RM3,381.75

Just for your reference what you can get with your budget. But this is with lenovo discount code, maybe end soon.



If need to carry laptop in and out, please get her a lightweight laptop (less than 1.5kg including the charger).

If the battery can last more then 6-7hours, she might not need to bring charger.

sorry. At start I see the top one which is RM4000++
I not see the right part which got discount.

At 3.3k budget, this is the BEST deal. Period.

Power, gamer capable, superb screen for content/media creation, large battery and weight is slightly heavy, desktop class in a laptop chassis. And not to mention, it's LENOVO!

This must buy online right? no brick shop that going to sell this Lenovo Legion Legion5 15ARH05 with this price right?
It show 6-8 week delivery?

Then in future got any problem, how to find lenovo for service/repair/exchange?
Besides spec, Lenovo brand ok?

Yes. You will never get that price outside of the Lenovo website
Nope. I bought mine on 17 November, got it on 1 December. The whole process only takes 2 weeks
Lenovo provides onsite warranty, that's why you need to add the extra RM150 as per the image below
If there's an issue with the laptop, just call their helpline, explain the issue then they will come to your place to fix the issue on the next working day

The onsite warranty covers globally. Doesn't matter where you are. At kampung in Kedah / Kelantan / Johor or in Thailand / Japan / Paris / London wherever you are
They are on the same level as Dell & HP



This post has been edited by sHawTY: Dec 12 2020, 08:51 PM

ok thanks. I will tell her to consider this.

She dun know much about this.
I also seldom touch laptop/notebook so dunno now how is the laptop/notebook world going.

Plus last time most people will say for notebook go intel rather than AMD.
Outside those brick shop with RM3000 price, mostly give 4gb ram only and 256gb ssd.
Then I see that dell got 8gb and 11th intel i7 so I though is good.
Too many brand for notebook/laptop. Acer/HP/Dell/Lenovo/MSI/.......

Not familiar ppl really hard to know what to buy.