Malaysia not good enough?
Brother, I came back from the US, you might wanna rethink about "grass is always greener on the other side".
sekian.
Want to migrate out of Malaysia, Any recommended agencies?
Want to migrate out of Malaysia, Any recommended agencies?
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Dec 7 2020, 03:40 PM
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Malaysia not good enough?
Brother, I came back from the US, you might wanna rethink about "grass is always greener on the other side". sekian. |
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Dec 7 2020, 03:59 PM
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QUOTE(Juggerballz @ Dec 7 2020, 03:40 PM) Malaysia not good enough? I'm under no illusion that grass is greener on the other side, my friend...Brother, I came back from the US, you might wanna rethink about "grass is always greener on the other side". sekian. I've been staying out of Malaysia since 17 actually, for a good number of years, but I made the conscious decision to come back for work. And I thought that with my friends/family we could do a lot together. And here we are now lol. Why did you return to Malaysia, if you don't mind me asking? |
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Dec 7 2020, 04:02 PM
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Dec 7 2020, 04:34 PM
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QUOTE(feynman @ Dec 7 2020, 12:30 PM) Do it yourself, it's easy. Your application does not get any preferential treatment just because you use an agent. In fact it can be riskier to use an agent as agents can either be scams or they just do a shitty job....i.e. lose your documents, send wrong thing, give wrong advice, keep on changing rep that follows your case. All these can delay your application...so why would you open yourself to that. Again, no preferential treatments when your application is examined. But you still need English certificate to proof language proficiency, right? Everywhere I read demands toefl/ielts/etc for those English speaking countries. But I also seen people migrating there without any English cert. How is that possible?Of the 4 countries that you mentioned, Canada and Australia have structured intake processes to bring in immigrants and you do not really need any connection to those countries to move there. For Australia and Canada, all information that you need can be obtained from the relevant government websites. Those are your only true source, all documents and guidance that you ever need are there. There are many classes, some require you to have job offers, some do not, some will bind your to a province/state, some do not. Some will require you to invest in a local business, some will not. So it's best to see which class is the most advantageous to you. No such thing as shortcuts....anyone who claims that there's a way in other than the standard process is just BS, penipu scammer. Once you are done here and actually do make the move, that's the just phase one completed. You have then need to worry about settling in, if you have a job offer that takes off a big load but if you do not...........then that is tougher, you may end up doing shitty jobs for a few years before a breakthrough.....for many it will be never at all. Just because you were a manager or above in msia doesn't mean you will get something similar abroad, you may need to start from below again sometimes in a totally different field. This can be quite stressful and can be a push factor back to msia. T That's why a lot of people try to make the move with an internal transfer at hand...therefore they enter laterally, avoid the whole local experience requirement. For example lah, you work for Shell Msia for a few years and have relevant and pertinent core business skills.....not some back office invoicing or admin BS, there's always opportunities to transfer to australia or Canada or Netherlands or UAE if there's a market need. |
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Dec 7 2020, 04:34 PM
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QUOTE(Captain89 @ Dec 7 2020, 04:02 PM) I studied in the US (California) for a good amount of years. To really "make it" over there, not much opportunities for "fresh off the boats" unless you just want to be a professional/employee who is very comfortable with an M-F job. Not to say that that's a crime, but I'm not that kind of person.Once back in Malaysia, man...the opportunities are endless, especially if you have some daddykasi resources. And I'm really grateful that, I have lots of daddykasi resources, and even a backing of a public-listed company to do what I love. Sekian. |
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Dec 7 2020, 04:38 PM
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QUOTE(Endeavour @ Dec 7 2020, 03:59 PM) I'm under no illusion that grass is greener on the other side, my friend... Well, I got back because I have lots of daddykasi resources (legal), and recently got the full support from a listed company to do what I love. I've been staying out of Malaysia since 17 actually, for a good number of years, but I made the conscious decision to come back for work. And I thought that with my friends/family we could do a lot together. And here we are now lol. Why did you return to Malaysia, if you don't mind me asking? I don't think with the identity I have in the US, I could've reached what I'm reaching now. If you're wondering what you saw in the US, like immigrants making it big, well maybe they got lucky and they're just one of the very very few who made it. My father always tells me: what you see is just the 1 out of 100, behind the scenes, maybe 90 or more died. (not literally died, but failed and vanished into thin air). |
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Dec 7 2020, 04:42 PM
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QUOTE(Juggerballz @ Dec 7 2020, 04:34 PM) I studied in the US (California) for a good amount of years. To really "make it" over there, not much opportunities for "fresh off the boats" unless you just want to be a professional/employee who is very comfortable with an M-F job. Not to say that that's a crime, but I'm not that kind of person. Don’t you miss the cali weather, lifestyle and even food?Once back in Malaysia, man...the opportunities are endless, especially if you have some daddykasi resources. And I'm really grateful that, I have lots of daddykasi resources, and even a backing of a public-listed company to do what I love. Sekian. |
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Dec 7 2020, 04:43 PM
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Dec 7 2020, 04:45 PM
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Dec 7 2020, 04:59 PM
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QUOTE(Juggerballz @ Dec 7 2020, 04:38 PM) Well, I got back because I have lots of daddykasi resources (legal), and recently got the full support from a listed company to do what I love. Nice. Similar rationale that led me to come back - just tapping on my own connections here. With the boost coming from family, seriously, the lifestyle difference is staggering. That's also why I returned. But then things have been disappointing here, or not good enough, so this is once again among my considerations.I don't think with the identity I have in the US, I could've reached what I'm reaching now. If you're wondering what you saw in the US, like immigrants making it big, well maybe they got lucky and they're just one of the very very few who made it. My father always tells me: what you see is just the 1 out of 100, behind the scenes, maybe 90 or more died. (not literally died, but failed and vanished into thin air). What are you doing now then, if you don't mind me asking? Or if its private we can just chat through PMs too. Genuinely curious about your journey thus far. |
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Dec 7 2020, 05:00 PM
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Dec 7 2020, 05:01 PM
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Dec 7 2020, 04:34 PM) But you still need English certificate to proof language proficiency, right? Everywhere I read demands toefl/ielts/etc for those English speaking countries. But I also seen people migrating there without any English cert. How is that possible? This is also a good question.On English requirements, even for me exchanging over to EU, I needed to take the IELTS test. So for migration..it seems like it's a basic requirement. Or actually they went there illegally? |
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Dec 7 2020, 05:02 PM
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QUOTE(Endeavour @ Dec 7 2020, 04:59 PM) Nice. Similar rationale that led me to come back - just tapping on my own connections here. With the boost coming from family, seriously, the lifestyle difference is staggering. That's also why I returned. But then things have been disappointing here, or not good enough, so this is once again among my considerations. You PM me broWhat are you doing now then, if you don't mind me asking? Or if its private we can just chat through PMs too. Genuinely curious about your journey thus far. |
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Dec 7 2020, 05:17 PM
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QUOTE(Endeavour @ Dec 7 2020, 10:29 AM) Thinking about Australia, Canada, UAE, Netherlands... Why not consider the UK? They have a clear cut process for people who want to stay in the uk. You secure a job under tier 2 general visa sponsorship, after 5 years you can apply for ILR (PR)..Anyone have any recommendations for agencies I can speak to about this? Too many scammy ones out there... |
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Dec 7 2020, 05:18 PM
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grass not always greener on the other side
i studied in aussie then worked there few years, bought houses (2 in fact) and thought i was successful but something is still missing, ur old friends, family, the fact u can hang out at mamak etc made me came back to kl for good... |
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Dec 7 2020, 05:18 PM
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QUOTE(Endeavour @ Dec 7 2020, 03:30 PM) Not that Malaysia's not good enough, but rather I wanna escape from my family. And friends, too, actually. And just everything lol. Want a fresh start. Are you planning to stay there for good? Or just afew year stint?Long complicated story for mental health subforum, not for serious /k haha Easiest ways are to study and find a job there after, investor/business owner which would require high capital. In the current situation of covid, finding a job is slightly harder due to the travel restrictions and what not.. however I believe Singapore would be the easiest to get off you are looking to pack up and leave asap while thinking on what your next move is |
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Dec 7 2020, 05:40 PM
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QUOTE(Eulm585 @ Dec 7 2020, 05:18 PM) Are you planning to stay there for good? Or just afew year stint? Probably staying there permanently..Easiest ways are to study and find a job there after, investor/business owner which would require high capital. In the current situation of covid, finding a job is slightly harder due to the travel restrictions and what not.. however I believe Singapore would be the easiest to get off you are looking to pack up and leave asap while thinking on what your next move is Yup I've considered taking up masters to do so, but the thing is that money can be more well spent (RM200K for a masters in UK, seriously?) and there's the preparatory stage as well (I did GMAT a few years ago, score of 700 can only get you so far to a good masters programme if you're asian+male unfortunately). SG has been among my considerations before as well, but tbh SG is too close to home, still. Currency difference is one of the key reasons too, but that's secondary in comparison to lifestyle/freedom of heart and mind. |
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Dec 7 2020, 06:02 PM
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Dec 7 2020, 06:10 PM
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