Already died down on page 30+ .
But the sudden nuke and revive thread plus all fews other why tered make this rabbit hole even deeper.

Laugh die me.

Many so called 'experts' who know shit about professional contesting giving all sorts of assumptions.

This thread was started becos got people entered UM contest but LOST big time. maybe even lost the Iriz prize to LLK.

Then start to create aspersion hoping to get him or family disqualified of the Iriz.

Like I said, best to refer to TNC. If the TNC says u can win all the prizes, even all 3 X70, then it is the prerogative of the org.

Those not happy dont hv to join. But if u join then unhappy, dont take it out on winners.

Had LLK cheated, then by all means screw him. As far as i know this is a most purchase game. He got money he risk his money, he reap the reards this time. You want to kick his ass, make sure you all gang up ur resources and teach him a lesson.

If there is a contest prize worth Rm100K, and u r sure LLK will join, make sure you throw in Rm100K. Not to make money but to make him lose money. Got anyone dare to do that?

just telling u that there are professional contestants out there and gamblers too. You say who so stupid would risk rm50k to win a rm100k prize? Gamblers lo.

You go genting also same right? Put a chip on roulette for a 49% win rate on either black or red. U didnt ask why so stupid?

The fact that you guys dare not put in money for such contests means LLK will always win. But can u fault him? U cant expec him not to join, right? There will always be someone who will. And if he only spends Rm1000 for points, u see and u began to wonder, aiyo Rm1000 can iwn a car worth Rm100K. I also want to join and throw in Rm2000 la.

That's how it all started la. Think la.

As for other contest, yes I hv seen people go borong Milo, milk, tissues, whatever la that is needed just to get entries. Some things can be resold at a slight loss and consider that ur contest cost lo. Nothing is free ma. Last time no use whatsapp ppl use mail in also must pay stamp fees la. 30sen back then. And people do send a lot. Now can whatsapp mai cheap lo.

So before u all think where got stupid people throw money like LLK if no cheat, then u r wrong lo. You can continue to think that way while he continues to win more. unless u say he hacked the points la which I myself dont hv evidence so cant say. Every point he gained must tally with the amount he spent. I am sure audit will take care of that. If he hacked the game, then by all emans report him to MCMC and PDRM. But what is the point of you guys asking him nott to be greedy? How sure are u there wont be the next person who will be greedy too? Go tell Rafael Nadal dont win so many Grand Slams la. Why so greedy? Tell Dato LCW why win so many Msian Open and dont give locals a chance?

On his BPN or BSH, how can u say he won cars therefore he not qualify? He enter contest also got risk and cost. Maybe he lost some too. He is not the only one throwing money. Losses how to claim? And just say if he threw in Rm80k to win Rm100k car, should he declare Rm20k income or 100k?

i know of many people doing this as hobby. many housewives doing it and winning lots of prizes as a group. so how? They put in effort, they win while u guys still sulking why didnt win.

of course there r contests out there where the org cheat also. insider win. got, not to say dont have. Just choose ur contest wisely lo. And of course got contests whihc can be hacked and i hv brought this up in another thread. That is up to us all to investigate and expose lo.

There are many things very subjective. Today you may drive LLK to hide for few years, but he can still use proxies la. You want to win but cant beat him, then u tell organizer to change tnc lo. Stop doing omney game contest because it puts poor people at a disadvantage. That should be the highlight of ur complains.

Those who are unfamiliar, pls ask questions nicely and i will answer nicely to the best of my knowledge.

come la, shoot me cos i disagree with what u all harping here. contest world very dark wan. i understand many were frustrated as they couldnt win the cars. I am just like you. I know how to count the cost. I know what i m getting into. I can accept the loss as long as no one cheated.

And dont hv to say i m LLK's fake ID la. I m just telling and correcting some of ur skewed perception.

But looking at all the comments, i find that LLK is no the greedy one but all those who cant win and couldnt figure out how he won (despite me explaining here but refuse to accept it). just stick with ur fantasies that LLK cheated. Stick with that and LLK will continue to win more. Many are just sour cos he won many cars. But if he starts using proxies and you guys will still wont win the next most purchase contest. Then what? Will u be happier?

your problems are not with LLK but with the contest tnc and criteria. deal with the ghost inside u

Got people theow in the conspiracy of him being the guy you call in to cut your losses
Like a carreer competition winner

Company do a competition
The guy approach the organizer
Say use his name or face or details as winner of big prizes

He get some monetary compensation
In exchange he dont take the prizes

The organizer no need to lose the grand /top prizes needlessly
And he can treat it like carreer with a constant income

1. He's clearly afraid that he and his families are in the spotlight . Otherwise, why the concerted effort to take down social farm posts?  The fact that this tered was taken down also proves the case.

2. He clearly trusts his family members more than others. using other proxies is a big risk. Risk to reward ratio can be negative. If more expose come.out into the light like in various social media e.g. trending in Twitter same winners appear, news outlets etc pick this up, imagine the organisers' embarrassment. Whole Malaysia should know about him and his families. Other less serial less successful muka doesn't always show up pro compers should be happy about this development, and not discourage like what he's doing here.

3. No Bola to use main or selling accounts? Deswai open file accounts? Sked being traced and matched with the winning items especially phones? Sked phone number trace to other selling platforms? Sked complie and send to lhdn?

4. Why he refered to himself in 3rd person voice earlier in one of the posts? Nobody does that except .......

Sus sus

Joke of the year.

I came to correct your wrong assumptions and just becos i was against ur wrong info in regards to UM tnc as u alleged winners were chosen based on luck or whatever connections.

It shows u r a sour grape loser.

And just becos I PMed you makes me a LLK? FYI, LLK2020 also PMed same day after I posted the first message on the previous thread. So am I talking to myself?

If u cant accept facts then it shows u hv mental problem. Dont use ur loser mentality to bad mouth another, hoping to scoop of some fallen crumbs.

So many wrong assumptions as if you all live under a shell.

Whether LLK started at age 18 without source of income is immaterial. Can start small and grow. Funds need not come from him directly but from parents. Can even team with friends. Are you saying B40 people are not allowed to join? One may be in B40 category form age 18 to 50 but doesnt mean he cant save up money to buy a house worth rm500K and still remain in B40. Dont look down on B40 M40 group.

BPN has nothing to do with how much the parents earn. When you start out on your first job, maybe also relied on parents to put down payment for car. So for LLK or anyone to go into contest has nothing to do with one's personal financial standing. If he can make money for sure there will be investors and also his parents can support him.

You may see him winning, but have u seen him losing? Maybe he lost but no one knows. Like I lost too but not many people knew until i bring up the ills of such contest like most purchase. Do i join all of such contest? No i dont. I pick and choose too. I saw LLK name in week 2 and i cut my losses. I know I dont hv the means to go against him. Can i afford to dump in rm30k? Of course I can, but it may be foolish too. So this UM is not for me.

Dont be like Submergedx who lost rm5000 and now crying like a baby and start badmouthing everyone who is not in the same line of thought.

It shows you have personal issues with LLK cos he robbed your prize. Guess you have issues too with those who came in 2nd 3rd 4th and 5th as only you think you deserved to be the winner.

and I am Glad you lost big time. Chinese say "Dai Sei!" PADAN MUKA.