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Nakamichi subwoofer review (underseat), Bought and tested
Nakamichi subwoofer review (underseat), Bought and tested
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Nov 12 2020, 11:46 PM
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Nov 12 2020, 11:48 PM
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Nov 12 2020, 11:29 PM) How subwoofer make voice clearer? You still send same sound to front speaker. You change the Equalizer ? Previously my front speakers need to handle low end bass also. So my front speaker not getting enough power from my HU (no external amplifier). So sounds more teruk lo.Now my active subwoofer has its own amplifier built in, so it handles all the low end. My front speaker only handles high and mid. So my HU still can supply enough power to the front speakers, but still not enough for full volume. Full volume will have some clipping sound, if your ears sensitive you can hear it. Clipping sound means not enough power supplied from HU to speakers. But now the quality for the loudness I required is more than enough for me, so I'm satisfied. This is what I understand from the installer la. |
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Nov 12 2020, 11:49 PM
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Nov 12 2020, 11:50 PM
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Nov 12 2020, 11:56 PM
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Nov 12 2020, 11:29 PM) How subwoofer make voice clearer? You still send same sound to front speaker. You change the Equalizer ? the signal no longer send very low frequency stuff, so yeah clearer output for mid and high range, this doesn't matter much if you have good amp.Bass unit no need to produce very low range frequency, so it could focus on producer higher bass frequency sound |
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Nov 12 2020, 11:58 PM
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QUOTE(Balanced @ Nov 12 2020, 11:50 PM) Spend so much already, upgrade la the stock HU. sure make difference Bought from a shop and they installed for me.You buy and ask them install, or you bought all from them? Can breakdown the cost ah? Don’t want to touch HU as my car is using canbus system controlling other functions for the car and car still under warranty. Blam Signature component speaker 3k Venom amp 1.5k Venom underseat woofer 1.5k Door sound proofing 200 |
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Nov 13 2020, 12:04 AM
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QUOTE(Balanced @ Nov 12 2020, 11:48 PM) Previously my front speakers need to handle low end bass also. So my front speaker not getting enough power from my HU (no external amplifier). So sounds more teruk lo. How does front speaker suddenly handle high and mid? Now my active subwoofer has its own amplifier built in, so it handles all the low end. My front speaker only handles high and mid. So my HU still can supply enough power to the front speakers, but still not enough for full volume. Full volume will have some clipping sound, if your ears sensitive you can hear it. Clipping sound means not enough power supplied from HU to speakers. But now the quality for the loudness I required is more than enough for me, so I'm satisfied. This is what I understand from the installer la. I can understand it doesn’t need to drive the subwoofer. But at the same volume setting, isn’t the same power and music (high, mid, low) is sent to front speaker? The only way you make it clearer is by adding filter to filter out low signal to front speaker. QUOTE(zerorating @ Nov 12 2020, 11:56 PM) the signal no longer send very low frequency stuff, so yeah clearer output for mid and high range, this doesn't matter much if you have good amp. Why suddenly install subwoofer, the HU automatically send only high and mid to front speaker? Is there a setting in the HU that does that?Bass unit no need to produce very low range frequency, so it could focus on producer higher bass frequency sound |
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Nov 13 2020, 12:13 AM
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Nov 13 2020, 12:04 AM) How does front speaker suddenly handle high and mid? this part, that's where the tuning comes in and they work their magic ma. I not sure sure about this part tho.I can understand it doesn’t need to drive the subwoofer. But at the same volume setting, isn’t the same power and music (high, mid, low) is sent to front speaker? The only way you make it clearer is by adding filter to filter out low signal to front speaker. Why suddenly install subwoofer, the HU automatically send only high and mid to front speaker? Is there a setting in the HU that does that? But probably you are right, maybe they "filter" the low signal to front speakers. so front speakers only driving high and mids, so become clearer now |
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Nov 13 2020, 12:14 AM
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QUOTE(kkkw80 @ Nov 12 2020, 11:58 PM) Bought from a shop and they installed for me. How much the shop charges you for all the cables, workmanship, installation and tuning?Don’t want to touch HU as my car is using canbus system controlling other functions for the car and car still under warranty. Blam Signature component speaker 3k Venom amp 1.5k Venom underseat woofer 1.5k Door sound proofing 200 |
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Nov 13 2020, 12:25 AM
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Nov 13 2020, 12:04 AM) Why suddenly install subwoofer, the HU automatically send only high and mid to front speaker? Is there a setting in the HU that does that? for kenwood and jvc, you have this settings to filter out low range frequency, e.g if you choose 150hz, 0-150hz will not be send over front/rear speaker wire.![]() here a better settings explanation. http://manual.kenwood.com/ce/im362/Asia_Au...M_en_00-14.html This post has been edited by zerorating: Nov 13 2020, 12:34 AM |
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Nov 13 2020, 12:37 AM
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QUOTE(zerorating @ Nov 13 2020, 12:25 AM) for kenwood and jvc, you have this settings to filter out low range frequency, e.g if you choose 150hz, 0-150hz will not be send over front/rear speaker wire. Oh, you are into tuning car audio too? ![]() here a better settings explanation. http://manual.kenwood.com/ce/im362/Asia_Au...M_en_00-14.html I don't know much of these things, so just pay people to do for me |
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Nov 13 2020, 12:37 AM
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underseat sub will never have the real thumbing bass of ported woofer box. owned a few under sub due to space issue.
under sub is good for those guitar basses higher low cut frequency, never can produce those real low's with "wooof woooof wooof pump" under seat sub punch is quick and tight knocks but too boomy when comes to the music 2nd bass. like a music example electro or trance when the 1st bass hit is a boom sound right? and the right after that 1st boom sound will comes the 2nd bass which is the something like a reflect back organ bass right? that 2nd bass reflects always plays too high from an underseat sub caused very boomy.. something like a music bassline sounds like this "boookkk whunggg, bookkk whunngg, bookkk whungg"... that bookk is 1st bass, that whungg is 2nd type of bass, and it's that whungg whungg sound comes too high from underseat sub very irritating This post has been edited by djandrew: Nov 13 2020, 12:43 AM |
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Nov 13 2020, 12:41 AM
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TS which shop you went for the installation?
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Nov 13 2020, 12:41 AM
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QUOTE(zerorating @ Nov 13 2020, 12:25 AM) for kenwood and jvc, you have this settings to filter out low range frequency, e.g if you choose 150hz, 0-150hz will not be send over front/rear speaker wire. Oh nice. Better than crappy original hU BY Perodua![]() here a better settings explanation. http://manual.kenwood.com/ce/im362/Asia_Au...M_en_00-14.html |
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Nov 13 2020, 12:51 AM
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QUOTE(djandrew @ Nov 13 2020, 12:37 AM) underseat sub will never have the real thumbing bass of ported woofer box. owned a few under sub due to space issue. I not so much into wooooof woooof woooof pump.under sub is good for those guitar basses higher low cut frequency, never can produce those real low's with "wooof woooof wooof pump" under seat sub punch is quick and tight knocks but too boomy when comes to the music 2nd bass. like a music example electro or trance when the 1st bass hit is a boom sound right? and the right after that 1st boom sound will comes the 2nd bass which is the something like a reflect back organ bass right? that 2nd bass reflects always plays too high from an underseat sub caused very boomy.. I am more into DUP DUP DUP pump. to me this is tight punch. Or you have and example of a youtube video to demonstrate what you mean? |
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Nov 13 2020, 12:52 AM
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QUOTE(Balanced @ Nov 13 2020, 12:37 AM) Oh, you are into tuning car audio too? no la, i am someone who not prefer bassy setup or someone targeting more treble soundI don't know much of these things, so just pay people to do for me all my car speaker handle all those frequency range, so there is tuning being made. |
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Nov 13 2020, 12:53 AM
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Nov 13 2020, 12:58 AM
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QUOTE(zerorating @ Nov 13 2020, 12:52 AM) no la, i am someone who not prefer bassy setup or someone targeting more treble sound Oh you play SQ. I also like SQ la, like the voice clarity, but also prefer the DUP DUP DUP bass.all my car speaker handle all those frequency range, so there is tuning being made. So imma kinda SQ and SPL a bit. |
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Nov 13 2020, 01:00 AM
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QUOTE(Balanced @ Nov 13 2020, 12:13 AM) this part, that's where the tuning comes in and they work their magic ma. I not sure sure about this part tho. yeah a good HU can set all the high cut and low cut vs slope frequency pass to each channel of speakers/audio output, must also depends on your front speakers high cut frequency range start from which Hz, and that HU need set your front speakers so that don't sent the frequency that your front speakers can't handle, this will result your front speaker can focus on playing very loud mids and highs without getting distorted because the heavy bass beyond it cant handle is not sent to it. But probably you are right, maybe they "filter" the low signal to front speakers. so front speakers only driving high and mids, so become clearer now too much heavy bass send to the front speakers that it can't handle beyond its range and if it plays too loud will caused it to distort sounds something like "ffrttt frrrtttt frrrttt" something like bocor angin lol This post has been edited by djandrew: Nov 13 2020, 01:05 AM |
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Nov 13 2020, 01:04 AM
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QUOTE(Balanced @ Nov 13 2020, 12:51 AM) I not so much into wooooof woooof woooof pump. yes bro underseat sub is DUP DUP DUP type sound tight, ermm well yeah can say it's suitable for u tho since u said don't prefer those wooof wooof wooof pumpI am more into DUP DUP DUP pump. to me this is tight punch. Or you have and example of a youtube video to demonstrate what you mean? |
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