Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+

 Is dual citizenship possible?

views
     
KineticKill
post Oct 30 2020, 01:56 PM

New Member
*
Newbie
45 posts

Joined: Dec 2015


QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Oct 30 2020, 06:25 AM)
well,.. i got few living proof,... few of my schoolmate having dual citizenship,.. they did told me about this trick,.. u surrendering others citizenship in malaysia soil,... but actually malaysia authority got no power to cancel it,..,they will sent the passport to embassy or diplomat,.. and tell them this is our citizen, he want them to cancel the non malaysia citizenship,... the embassy or diplomat will also cannot simply cancel,.. they need your permission,..

so there's a law,.. but there's also a loop hole,..

i'm just telling what i know,.. whats triggered your anger ???...

i
*
Bring your proof. He said she said your arse said anyone can do that. Otherwise it’s just more BS from you.

I’m quoting the Federal Constitution. Dual citizenship is plain illegal. There’s no need for anger. Just that this is not a cincai lar matter.
yeezai
post Oct 30 2020, 01:57 PM

-using no way as way-having no limitation as limitation-
*******
Senior Member
2,531 posts

Joined: Feb 2009
From: Land below the wind
QUOTE(taga @ Oct 30 2020, 12:14 PM)
Can authority especially malaysia check it
*
Can and no one knows it unless u tell it to everybody ...dont ask me how i know
KineticKill
post Oct 30 2020, 01:58 PM

New Member
*
Newbie
45 posts

Joined: Dec 2015


QUOTE(Liamness @ Oct 30 2020, 06:43 AM)
You may be right. Malaysia cant simply auto cancel your citizenship.

Infact, if they catch you, they will likely give you two options. Either cancel Malaysian citizenship or surrender over your foreign country passport.

You should always pick option b) surrender your foreign passport. As if that country allows dual citizenship, you can easily apply back in the future.
*
QUOTE(KineticKill @ Oct 30 2020, 06:07 AM)
Article 24 of the Constitution

Deprivation of citizenship on acquisition or exercise of foreign citizenship

(1) If the Federal Government is satisfied that any citizen has acquired by registration, naturalization or other voluntary and formal act (other than marriage) the citizenship of any country outside the Federation, the Federal Government may by order deprive that person of his citizenship.

(2) If the Federal Government is satisfied that any citizen has voluntarily claimed and exercised in any country outside the Federation any rights available to him under the law of that country, being rights accorded exclusively to its citizens, the Federal Government may by order deprive that person of his citizenship.
*
ye0073
post Oct 30 2020, 02:00 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
480 posts

Joined: Sep 2004
PR you can have many.

My friend got HK, US, Japan, Australia PR.
SUSLiamness
post Oct 30 2020, 02:02 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
445 posts

Joined: Aug 2018
QUOTE(KineticKill @ Oct 30 2020, 01:58 PM)

*
Keyword is May.

Meaning, it isn't automatic.
KineticKill
post Oct 30 2020, 02:06 PM

New Member
*
Newbie
45 posts

Joined: Dec 2015


QUOTE(Liamness @ Oct 30 2020, 07:02 AM)
Keyword is May.

Meaning, it isn't automatic.
*
I’m referring to your 2nd para.

They will revoke your citizenship. Read the news.

https://www.bharian.com.my/berita/nasional/...a-sejak-merdeka

On the practical side, why are we keeping these people anyway? If they want to go, just go.
PJng
post Oct 30 2020, 02:12 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
12,059 posts

Joined: Oct 2017


QUOTE(everest @ Oct 30 2020, 12:17 PM)
Marry Australian girl?
*
No, marry Vietnam girl
SUSLiamness
post Oct 30 2020, 02:14 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
445 posts

Joined: Aug 2018
QUOTE(KineticKill @ Oct 30 2020, 02:06 PM)
I’m referring to your 2nd para.

They will revoke your citizenship. Read the news.

https://www.bharian.com.my/berita/nasional/...a-sejak-merdeka

On the practical side, why are we keeping these people anyway? If they want to go, just go.
*
Personally, I couldn't care less too whether these people get their citizenship cancelled.

But likewise, the law says it isn't automatic cancellation either.

But I guess it wouldn't be the end of the world if they get their citizenship cancelled, since they are already living outside of Malaysia and have their own life in their adopted country. More power to them.

If Malaysia wants to modernized, they should drop this rule. Allow dual citizenship since we dont really have compulsory NS, what difference would it make if a citizen holds two passports or more?
KineticKill
post Oct 30 2020, 02:22 PM

New Member
*
Newbie
45 posts

Joined: Dec 2015


QUOTE(Liamness @ Oct 30 2020, 07:14 AM)
Personally, I couldn't care less too whether these people get their citizenship cancelled.

But likewise, the law says it isn't automatic cancellation either.

But I guess it wouldn't be the end of the world if they get their citizenship cancelled, since they are already living outside of Malaysia and have their own life in their adopted country. More power to them.

If Malaysia wants to modernized, they should drop this rule. Allow dual citizenship since we dont really have compulsory NS, what difference would it make if a citizen holds two passports or more?
*
Not worth it for Malaysia to become a dual citizenship country.

Politically, there’s no appetite for it.

Economically, seeing that Malaysia is a socialist country with brain drain, there’d be more Malaysians working and paying tax outside the country than inside. But they would be entitled to use public services here, i.e public healthcare here should they need/want to. So, net loss.

Much better for Malaysians to hold PR. It’s working great for me at least.
RicoT
post Oct 30 2020, 02:27 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
200 posts

Joined: Feb 2009
If you didn't fucuk up your passport when arriving or leaving the country, you won't be checked. Also, have to use autogate if possible.

E.g. if you use Malaysia passport to enter the country, remember to use Malaysia passport to leave too.
SUSLiamness
post Oct 30 2020, 02:27 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
445 posts

Joined: Aug 2018
QUOTE(KineticKill @ Oct 30 2020, 02:22 PM)
Not worth it for Malaysia to become a dual citizenship country.

Politically, there’s no appetite for it.

Economically, seeing that Malaysia is a socialist country with brain drain, there’d be more Malaysians working and paying tax outside the country than inside. But they would be entitled to use public services here, i.e public healthcare here should they need/want to. So, net loss.

Much better for Malaysians to hold PR. It’s working great for me at least.
*
I agree. Hence why Im holding Singkie PR still and not convert to SG citizenship. Anyways, SG will auto cancel your malaysian citizenship , and notify malaysian government, so you don't have a choice really.

I will likely switch to SG citizenship if my kids start schooling in SG. It's cheaper and they will get access to the benefits in SG.

I used to hold Aussie PR since young and for 20+ years, but gave it up, after I considered my options and career move back to Asia and finally closed the chapter on Australia. At least I got a good pay-out from my superannuation. LOL.
lee_lnh
post Oct 30 2020, 02:28 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
115 posts

Joined: Oct 2008


many dual citizenship holders are businessman who still doing business in malaysia.. and have alot of money/land/property in bolehland..
if u cancel their citizenship.. next thing they will stop doing business in malaysia, sell all their stuffs and bring out all the money.. so gov is on the losing side..
hfi
post Oct 30 2020, 02:30 PM

On my way
****
Senior Member
598 posts

Joined: Aug 2006
You don't need Aus passport for PR status. You need citizenship to be eligible for Aus passport. Australia allows dual citizenship, Malaysia does not. You can keep both passport as long as you duduk diam diam.
chtan
post Oct 30 2020, 02:31 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
2,353 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
You got the money no problem then.
FauxHawk
post Oct 30 2020, 02:33 PM

<3
******
Senior Member
1,340 posts

Joined: Sep 2006
From: Selangor



My uncle got Aussie dual citizenship since the 80s. Every year also he come back vacation a month or so. Few years back only the immigration found out so now his IC and Malaysia passport mati already.
nko6213
post Oct 30 2020, 03:01 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
51 posts

Joined: Sep 2011
QUOTE(Liamness @ Oct 30 2020, 01:20 PM)
https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/entering-an...-a-dual-citizen

Dunno whether they enforce it but the rules clearly says you must enter using Australian passport.

Any ktard got try and successful before?? Hahaha.
*
Ini machiam transit lo the only choice
joedpa82
post Oct 30 2020, 03:03 PM

On my way
****
Junior Member
586 posts

Joined: Jul 2010


usually the second country will check with the original country.
hotdayum
post Oct 30 2020, 03:05 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
195 posts

Joined: Sep 2019


PR not citizen

Malaysia does not allow you to hold dual citizenship. If you become citizen of another country, your Malaysian citizenship is revoked.
KineticKill
post Oct 30 2020, 03:34 PM

New Member
*
Newbie
45 posts

Joined: Dec 2015


QUOTE(Liamness @ Oct 30 2020, 07:27 AM)
I agree. Hence why Im holding Singkie PR still and not convert to SG citizenship. Anyways, SG will auto cancel your malaysian citizenship , and notify malaysian government, so you don't have a choice really.

I will likely switch to SG citizenship if my kids start schooling in SG. It's cheaper and they will get access to the benefits in SG.

I used to hold Aussie PR since young and for 20+ years, but gave it up, after I considered my options and career move back to Asia and finally closed the chapter on Australia. At least I got a good pay-out from my superannuation. LOL.
*
Were I to marry my gf and move, I will probably go back working in the UK or get a job closer to her hometown in Munich. No need to change my citizenship as my kids will get their education and benefits from the govt over there nonetheless.

4 Pages « < 2 3 4Top
 

Change to:
| Lo-Fi Version
0.0241sec    0.83    5 queries    GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 21st December 2025 - 03:40 AM