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TSFerrari_83
post Aug 15 2007, 10:09 AM, updated 19y ago

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I have used my sony vaio quite a long time~~AND i found tat my sony vaio screen color production is much much better then my newly bought macbook...

The macbook screen production is not rich as vaio~~

Anyone comment~~~ it's just me or ~~~ the macbook screen is really cheap screen LCD

FYI~~ i found this
http://blog.wired.com/cultofmac/2007/05/macbook_screen_.html

This post has been edited by Ferrari_83: Aug 15 2007, 10:10 AM
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post Aug 15 2007, 10:47 AM

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Just saying "...is not as rich as..." is not enough of a test. That is too subjective. Let me put it to you this way, both screens are glossy am I right? You didn't list down the specs nor model of your Vaio so I can't really compare here. Bear with me and my assumptions. I assume that the Vaio screens are even more glossy than the MacBook one's seeing as according to you, "they produce richer colours". Well more gloss = more glare. Again, I need more information on both systems. Oh, and if you look at the article it says that everyone's doing it so.... No big deal.
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post Aug 15 2007, 10:54 AM

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Callibrate your MB screen. It will look much better.
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post Aug 15 2007, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(darkcurse @ Aug 15 2007, 10:47 AM)
Just saying "...is not as rich as..." is not enough of a test. That is too subjective. Let me put it to you this way, both screens are glossy am I right? You didn't list down the specs nor model of your Vaio so I can't really compare here. Bear with me and my assumptions. I assume that the Vaio screens are even more glossy than the MacBook one's seeing as according to you, "they produce richer colours". Well more gloss = more glare. Again, I need more information on both systems. Oh, and if you look at the article it says that everyone's doing it so.... No big deal.
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I would have to say both your arguments can't be held in total relation to colour reproduction. Glossiness of an LCD screen does not affect the colour reproduction as well as the glossier the more flare as it depends on the diffuser and the various layers on the LCD screen each laptop manufacturer might have.

When it comes to colour reproduction, each manufacturer will differ depending on which CCFL or LED supplier they will go for. Certain CCFL or LED's will have a different colour Gamut hence the various colour reproduction.

The various filters on the LCD (diffuser, polarizer, etc..etc..) will also determine how the image will turn up to the users (e.g. viewing angle, level of glare, etc...) also determines how the colour reproduction.

To have a good gauge, a comparison of the colour gamut from both these manufacturers would be able to determine a certain level of colour reproduction.

Hence we should all push for OLED monitors! tongue.gif
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post Aug 15 2007, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(darkcurse @ Aug 15 2007, 10:47 AM)
Just saying "...is not as rich as..." is not enough of a test. That is too subjective. Let me put it to you this way, both screens are glossy am I right? You didn't list down the specs nor model of your Vaio so I can't really compare here. Bear with me and my assumptions. I assume that the Vaio screens are even more glossy than the MacBook one's seeing as according to you, "they produce richer colours". Well more gloss = more glare. Again, I need more information on both systems. Oh, and if you look at the article it says that everyone's doing it so.... No big deal.
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Yes. agree with u .. "it's not as rich as".. Again both screens are glossy. LCD screen got specs?? My VAIO model is VAIO FS. Im not sure if my vaio screen is more glossy then macbook.. to me both are equally glossy. The macbook screen color look like washed out. it produce more 'white color' when i increase the brightness.

What kind of information u need.. i tot it just LCD screens??

another info~

http://www.plasticshards.com/archives/73



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post Aug 15 2007, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(zio @ Aug 15 2007, 10:54 AM)
Callibrate your MB screen. It will look much better.
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How do you calibrate the screen? Please PM me the instructions.
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post Aug 15 2007, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(TechnoDude94 @ Aug 15 2007, 11:34 AM)
How do you calibrate the screen? Please PM me the instructions.
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I also want to know
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post Aug 15 2007, 12:12 PM

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It's quite easy. Go into System Preferences > Displays > Color
There'll be a "wizard" to walk you through the calibration. The
important thing to set may be the gamma.

But I'm surprised the built in display would need calibration, unless
Apple has changed their way of doing things!

- yap


Added on August 15, 2007, 12:14 pmUnless you're used to PC gamma which is darker than
Mac gamma.

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post Aug 15 2007, 01:09 PM

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It's just something you have to live with, like it or not, Macbook's screen is lousy. It also bleeds at the edges.
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post Aug 15 2007, 02:25 PM

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Ermm..chopsuey has already given the instructions.

It bleeds? Hrmm have to scrutinise my screen closer..
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post Aug 15 2007, 03:09 PM

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i will leave the color calibration to dafault
cuz wanna get the accurate color
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post Aug 15 2007, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(cRazYee @ Aug 15 2007, 03:09 PM)
i will leave the color calibration to dafault
cuz wanna get the accurate color
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Accurate colour does not come from an uncalibrated screen mate doh.gif
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post Aug 15 2007, 03:45 PM

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Hmm.. i do felt that my MB screens/color sux when i am using WinXP thru BootCamp ...


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post Aug 15 2007, 03:48 PM

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for me macbook screen is really good if compare to dell and toshiba lappie... currenly i have 1 toshiba A100 pro, macbookpro and dell 6400.. apple still the best among them!
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post Aug 15 2007, 09:17 PM

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you need a colour calibrator in order to calibrate your monitor
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post Aug 15 2007, 09:47 PM

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shite !!

Was planning to buy a macbook soon, but now i have my doubts doh.gif

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post Aug 15 2007, 10:03 PM

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yea..if can..someone who haf multiple laptops . Please post up picture to prove us Macbook LCD is not impressive or vice versa.
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post Aug 15 2007, 10:20 PM

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totally agree. I need something to make me buy it, coz i really2 want a mac. And i dont have a laptop tongue.gif
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sounds like u have a choice with a macbook with a better LCD screen ?
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post Aug 16 2007, 09:32 AM

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Conclusion~ the Macbook screen used 'cheap' LCD screen .
-The screen have poor/bad angle compare to sony vaio
-I wish apple could apply the sony vaio latest LCD screen to macbook smile.gif
-And one more thing.. the screen will flicker when u press on button. damn annoying

anyway.. im still happy to be owner of white macbook .. only the screen display is the drawback smile.gif

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post Aug 16 2007, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(Ferrari_83 @ Aug 16 2007, 09:32 AM)
Conclusion~ the Macbook screen used 'cheap' LCD screen .
-The screen have poor/bad angle compare to sony vaio
-I wish apple could apply the sony vaio latest LCD screen to macbook smile.gif
-And one more thing.. the screen will flicker when u press on button. damn annoying

anyway.. im still happy to be owner of white macbook .. only the screen display is the drawback smile.gif
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If your screen flicker when you press a button, you have a problem. Send it back for warranty claim.

If you want a better screen with a Mac, get the MBP with LED screen thumbup.gif
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post Aug 16 2007, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(civic98 @ Aug 16 2007, 11:06 AM)
If your screen flicker when you press a button, you have a problem. Send it back for warranty claim.

If you want a better screen with a Mac, get the MBP with LED screen  thumbup.gif
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OMG~~~ seriously arh ~~ it's problem~~~
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post Aug 16 2007, 12:00 PM

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Hmm, well its true if you say that the viewing angle on the MacBook's is quite bad. That won't argue. But what type of "gloss" coating that a manufacturer uses affects the colour reproduction. Why do you think that professional graphic designer's stay away from glossy screens? Because the colour on the screen is "richer" than what is actually shown and of course GD's need accurate colour reproduction.
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post Aug 16 2007, 02:52 PM

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darkcurse,

Is the artwork on Macbook LCD is quite accurate to printing output, rite?

I had this Sony LCD & CRT monitors. but i always like to paint in LCD due to avoid eye strain. But the contrast in LCD always have more richer color than CRT.

I had to switch back to CRT to retouch up everything.

I am wondering Macbook LCD color brightness is suitable for digital painting or design work still?
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post Aug 16 2007, 03:18 PM

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no no no! do not use a glossy screen for accurate colour. even after calibration the colour is still inaccurate.

come on guys. you are the design people, I am not. why do I know more about this topic?
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post Aug 16 2007, 07:30 PM

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Can anyone verify is this 'screen flicker when you press a button' is an issue/problem .. I called and asked the sales person.. and he said this is normal and all macbook is like that.

Can anyone check your macbook and verify this ?
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post Aug 16 2007, 08:17 PM

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i dont think it's normal. I read about this problem in the official mac support forum, and many of them send their macbook for repairs. But some of them said the flickering comes back after a few months doh.gif


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QUOTE(Ferrari_83 @ Aug 16 2007, 07:30 PM)
Can anyone verify is this 'screen flicker when you press a button' is an issue/problem .. I called and asked the sales person.. and he said this is normal and all macbook is like that.

Can anyone check your macbook and verify this ?
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Never heard of it friend. I cant even imagine how is it anyway. Don't bother asking the salesperson lor, just send it to service centre.
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i have 2 MacBook here, one my own, one is MacAsia's demo set.
no flickering also. do you have a sample video or something? cos I never heard of this problem before... and its definitely *not& normal...
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richer screen is good for watching DVDs only...

what designers and photographers need is an accurate screen!
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QUOTE(Ferrari_83 @ Aug 16 2007, 07:30 PM)
Can anyone verify is this 'screen flicker when you press a button' is an issue/problem .. I called and asked the sales person.. and he said this is normal and all macbook is like that.

Can anyone check your macbook and verify this ?
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If Mac's quality is really this bad.. i wonder why will people still buy it. doh.gif

Oh,btw.... my MB screen doesn't flicker even when i press 10 button at once.... -.-
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post Aug 17 2007, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(ed0gawa @ Aug 17 2007, 02:26 AM)
If Mac's quality is really this bad.. i wonder why will people still buy it.  doh.gif

Oh,btw.... my MB screen doesn't flicker even when i press 10 button at once.... -.-
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i forgot to tell.. the button i press is the power button(the button to start mac). Only that power button and also when u start your mac from sleep smile.gif will coz the screen flicker/(flash) once b4 it boot into mac..

later on will give apple service center a call about this smile.gif

**Called apple service center(VR Technology) and verified with them also.. They said it's normal and it's not a problem smile.gif . Glad~~
Anywhere thanks for all you help rclxms.gif icon_rolleyes.gif whistling.gif

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QUOTE(Ferrari_83 @ Aug 17 2007, 09:21 AM)
i forgot to tell.. the button i press is the power button(the button to start mac). Only that power button and also when u start your mac from sleep smile.gif will coz the screen flicker/(flash) once b4 it boot into mac..

later on will give apple service center  a call about this smile.gif

**Called apple service center(VR Technology) and verified with them also.. They said it's normal and it's not a problem smile.gif . Glad~~
Anywhere thanks for all you help  rclxms.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif  whistling.gif
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i think it's possible that they lied to u, or they dunno what to do about it

u can read thru this forum http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?t...901016&tstart=0



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QUOTE(Ferrari_83 @ Aug 16 2007, 09:32 AM)
Conclusion~ the Macbook screen used 'cheap' LCD screen .
-The screen have poor/bad angle compare to sony vaio
-I wish apple could apply the sony vaio latest LCD screen to macbook smile.gif
-And one more thing.. the screen will flicker when u press on button. damn annoying

anyway.. im still happy to be owner of white macbook .. only the screen display is the drawback smile.gif
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VAIO - video audio intergrated operation
MAC - macintosh

vaio dedicated for Audio/video

 

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