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 [2020]iPhone 12 Pro/Pro Max Discussion Thread | V1, It’s a leap year.

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post Oct 16 2020, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(moniqee @ Oct 16 2020, 10:45 AM)
interesting video...
but i think somewhere i watch one utube that apple maybe concentrating on their subscription as everyone knows they got appletv / applemusic / applefitness / applegames
i believe this opinion has some valid truth...
hence someone was talking that the reason why this iphone12 has great upgrade over the 11 and upcoming iphone may not have such substantial upgrades due to the subscription basis...
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it is, based on research usually apple users are less likely to upgrade phones yearly vs android users

they use at least on average 3 years before they change. hence apple switching tactic now to retain their revenue

its just business tactics

build good product to attract customer > build customer base over the years with good product > add on value to their customer base through services

theres just so much selling hardware can do especially since smartphone was never same tier like desktops/laptops where commercial/enterprise is where they rake in the money than consumer market

most of the new phones that comes out since 2017 are generally aimed for 2-3 yr old iphone users to upgrade. last year users have no real need to upgrade unless you want to flex haha icon_idea.gif
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post Oct 17 2020, 01:08 AM

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QUOTE(alexliko @ Oct 16 2020, 04:13 PM)
Coming from Google Pixel. Is it easy to switch Android to iOS these days?

I'm used to google services like google photos, Gmail suite, google keep.
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actually the myth of stuck in ecosystem is kinda false these days

its easy to switch from one side to another, it depends on the type of apps you use. only issue is when you want to retain your paid apps. another bad thing would be the differences in how youve been using the phones

all google services available on iOS also, theres not much diff
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post Oct 17 2020, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(vez @ Oct 17 2020, 06:39 PM)
i like this phrase biggrin.gif
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sounds like a lyric from ariana grande biggrin.gif
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post Oct 21 2020, 12:22 AM

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QUOTE(daimon @ Oct 20 2020, 10:47 PM)
I dont understand why Apple has the Apple logo stickers and some other stickers in their box, who would use the stickers on what thing actually?

I would just keep them and feel they are wasting my space  lol
if they want to save the environment should take out the stickers too lol
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some people use stickers mah

at least its not as much, 1 piece only
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post Oct 23 2020, 12:22 AM

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QUOTE(westlife @ Oct 22 2020, 11:28 PM)
Is it confirmed that iPhone 12 Pro has 6GB RAM while 12 has 4GB?
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zollotech showed in geekbench 5 for ip12 and 12pro both have 4GB and 6GB respectively
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post Oct 23 2020, 12:59 AM

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QUOTE(westlife @ Oct 23 2020, 12:48 AM)
i see. then it may really make a deal breaker for one to go for iphone 12 pro due to the extra RAM. it does make a difference.
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yeah so now RM4899's Pro gives you 2GB more RAM, telephoto, stainless steel build quality, better starting capacity

its a much more convincing proposal than the base 12 than last year 11 vs 11pro
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post Oct 27 2020, 01:12 AM

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QUOTE(PeeEl @ Oct 26 2020, 08:45 PM)
My take on battery life for mobile phones in general and specifically on these iPhone 12s.

I have been saying for a long time that battery life is dependent on usage. So, whilst you can form an idea from other users but it will never be conclusive.

With that said, what is even more important is how much the battery drains when idling. iPhones historically have been very good in this department. But from reports, the 12s are faring badly. It could just be isolated cases thus far but it’s not something one should ignore if battery life is important to him/her.

Just my take and something to take cognisance of. I will.
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yeah, but apple iphones have never been known for their battery life exceeding 1 day unless barely used. logically bigger battery = longer use hours and apple never give large batteries like android manufacturers

but peeps who game nonstop on mobile devices definitely need powerbanks. even on androids if youre a hardcore gamer a powerbank is a must for 4000-5000mAh behemoths

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post Nov 1 2020, 02:41 PM

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machines have 36 months instalment 0% interest for iphones wor

dem if only its applicable for Nov 13th new iphones haha
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post Nov 1 2020, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(moniqee @ Nov 1 2020, 02:43 PM)
i believe it's applicable for all iphones  brows.gif  devil.gif
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wonder should i haha, still using XR and have no issues with it

its mostly i want the smaller mini 12 but macam not so worth breaking my 1 new smartphone every 3 years rule
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post Nov 1 2020, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(Pat89 @ Nov 1 2020, 06:07 PM)
I mean XR still relevant in terms of iOS...no laggy or heating up issue...camera still almost the same as i12...

unlike me i7...heat up and lag with iOS 14..  ranting.gif so it's a must change for me liao....

I would stick with XR if you ask me unless you kenot tahan d  flex.gif
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Yeah i suppose so, nezt year will have another new iphone anyway

But for you, assuming launch 2016 thats due to upgrade ed that old ip7
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post Nov 1 2020, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(Pat89 @ Nov 1 2020, 06:22 PM)
Yerp, there were already rumors started that i13 or i12s will have 120 ghz pro motion display and under display touch ID  drool.gif  not sure how genuine but you can still wait with XR I suppose....

Yes, mine is 4 years now and it times to upgrade....although I'd hope it will work fine after replacing the battery...but h,,,  doh.gif
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oh those? nah not a big difference in what i want in iphones. i can buy android and get those now lol. i buy iphones for their combo hardware+software improvements in quality of life

i remembered i upgraded from 6 to XR primarily cause i wanted the new gesture controls + SmartHDR. those were the meaningful upgrades to me that caught my eye versus other iphones (didnt go for X cause it was like RM5k+)

MKBHD said dont buy iphones cause of those features but hey, i did lol and no regrets. SmartHDR is a huge life changer whenever i take photos. i remembered when i was in Cambodia and taking pic of friends using my XR and someone's 8+

>sunset at background while subjects in front of sunset against the dying light
>8+ managed to take pic of sunset but the subjects are dark and cant make out faces
>Xr managed a pic of balanced sunset and subject lighting and can see subject smiling

i was hugely impressed when watching them talk abt it in apple event and even more impressed when applied real life.

QUOTE(attw @ Nov 1 2020, 06:39 PM)
If they allow it without additional terms and conditions, then it's good. Normally they will force you to buy some accessories or their protection plan for 0% EPP, which is nonsense.
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QUOTE(J.alexander @ Nov 1 2020, 08:08 PM)
that would be a good option for me if can’t get it from Maxis.
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thats what i thought too then i enquired more, apparently if instalment for maybank its mandatory to buy the RM500+ protection plan

but citibank they said only T&C is iphone only, citibank card and 36 months fixed. maybe citibank benefit thru the yearly annual fees and service tax lol

bad news is they didnt tell me how long this citibank promo goes ughh
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post Nov 1 2020, 08:54 PM

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QUOTE(moniqee @ Nov 1 2020, 08:49 PM)
mac city i saw last time and enquired, they told me need buy accessories otherwise got extra charge to get the 36months 0% interest free installment

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post Nov 1 2020, 09:07 PM

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QUOTE(moniqee @ Nov 1 2020, 08:58 PM)
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i thought you already bought the rhinoshield? you can still join the rhinoshield bulk with 工藤新一
join the darkside with me  devil.gif
i also bought the mous and rhinoshield ler  flex.gif

marfccy now you making me sad also to know so many shops has T&C for their installment plan  cry.gif
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the never ending quest to find best installment plan available
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post Nov 1 2020, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(de_ghost @ Nov 1 2020, 10:18 PM)
As far as i know senheng/harvey norman EPP dont have other surcharge.

If u have maybank card u can try the 0% ezypay Plus promotion (normal rate 9%). With this then u can get from machine without having to buy accessory from them. Then u just need to login to m2u todo the application
MBB EZPAY PLUS
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niceee i have AMEX maybank tho

does it work?
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post Nov 2 2020, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(shazmiey @ Nov 2 2020, 09:29 AM)
last time from senheng, a friend use installment using his Maybank cc, no additional charge, just need to be  senheng member for about rm12. not sure how it works now. salesperson also told me, you can do like half cash half cc if you want. but that was in 2019, not sure these days.
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I alwiz thought senheng harvey etc all same pattern

They got some extra charges
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post Nov 2 2020, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Nov 2 2020, 10:17 PM)
I moved from 11 Pro to 12.

After 24 hours, I'm very certain that battery life is a lot better on the 11 Pro. My usage is just WhatsApp, Safari, phone calls. No gaming at all. Take this into consideration before even going for the 12/12 Pro.

I believe 12 Pro Max would be fine but will still lose out to 11 Pro Max.
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meanwhile everyone in /k harping about 2-3hrs battery life from genshin lol
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post Nov 2 2020, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Nov 2 2020, 11:06 PM)
The 12 has bad battery life laugh.gif
I've even made a rest on my network settings yesterday.
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given the reduction and higher power consumption of A SoCs, i dont doubt it

but as long as it manages a day battery life im alright
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post Nov 3 2020, 07:11 AM

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QUOTE(blackmarket @ Nov 3 2020, 12:15 AM)
What makes you upgrade from 11pro to 12? Design? Camera ?
Saw the gaming test for i12 . It seems that a14= chip throttle too much . I wonder if software update will solve the issue ? Apple was known to polish the OS and apps before roll out to the market and seems like this is no longer the case..
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Didnt watch it so far, but was it only for genshin or other games?

Seems odd that its happening but havent heard outcry from users yet

Apple does polish the OS, but apps rely on devs. Sole blame cant go towards Apple

Like remember when everytime new OS updates always will have new updates or patches from devs for their apps? biggrin.gif
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post Nov 4 2020, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(J.alexander @ Nov 4 2020, 11:00 AM)
https://youtu.be/mF39nRW-eh8

Anyone watched this simple test of battery? The most straight forward so far as i’m concerned about the battery as i need it to last whole day.
Summary - for browsing and youtube video is comparable to iphone 11, (in fact ip11pro is weak which i’m really considering if i can’t afford ip12) but the most obvious is ip12 is VERY bad for gaming usage in the test! Just 3 hours compared to ip11 of 6! 11 Can’t be right? With the most advanced A14 chip?

Which got me thinking, could ip12 / 12 pro be incomplete and has very limited real world testing and launched to meet deadlines? That with a non-negotiable deadlines, just confirm overall 90% but got 100% hardware done and ship them out first? That it’s not fully fine tuned yet.
Anyone who’s a project manager/ construction/ engineering would understand - reverse engineer the process ie build the roof first and then later sort out the internals as long as the major building structure is out first because shortage or disruption to materials like what happened because of pandemic.

This is also from the other youtube about display sets having the ip12pro side band scratched badly just sitting on display. And the weird charging mechanism happening that matches only some and not common ones. Every expert working to make sure their own system works but all of them havent come together to sort out the kinks. Like something is not fully right with the materials.

And then it got me thinking (sorry one of those late night, too much thinking) that Apple might not be the same without Jobs anymore. In the past, it would aim for revolutionary products BUT might not be complete, now Apple would fine to refine existing products to be more widely used but not chasing for revolutionary. I would imagine Jobs daring not to launch ip12 until he’s happy 😃
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"sitting on display"

surely you jest? you do know how many people touch the display set iphones in apple stores especially for new iphones? doh.gif

plenty of display units have tonnes of scratches for older models last time but now its a hoohah cause someone posted it for new phones. this kind of news are just baiting you into something that would obviously happen. should see my caseless ip6 back then, the amount of scratches on it would make them cry then. people expect too mcuh thinking they have some scratchproof design, nothing is unscratchable in this world.


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post Nov 4 2020, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(attw @ Nov 4 2020, 06:24 PM)
Finally read the entire GSMArena's review and found something interesting for gamers: -
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


So the 12 Pro is a better buy than the 12 if you are into gaming due to the better cooling.
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feels so weird right? meanwhile youtubers letting rip saying apple new 12 phones are only 3 hr gaming phones lel

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