Still considered expensive due to TM Wholesale unflexible port pricing for other competing ISPs.

TNB Allo's allows ISPs to market symmetrical 100Mbps at RM89/mth with its Allo City Broadband offerings.

Other ISPs such as Maxis and DiGi cannot afford to do this because they have to take TM Wholesale and Time Fibre's wholesale pricing to cover all of them.

For comparison, this is what TNB Allo pricing model which other ISPs should be using as gauge.



All plans are symmetrical in speed.

DiGi's international routing is not good. It relies 98% on its parent company Telenor Global Services as its transit carrier for international routing.

AS4818 - DiGi Telecommunications Sdn. Bhd.
https://bgp.he.net/AS4818

If you dig right deeper into AS15932 Telenor Global Services AS, which handles 98% of its international traffic: https://bgp.he.net/AS15932

DiGi's parent Telenor Global Services is basically buying a bulk of its international traffic from TM Net which is makes up of 35.7% of its capacity.

Of ALL the Big 5 telcos in Malaysia: TM, Maxis, Celcom, Umobile and TIME

Only 2 of them are independent from TM. TIME has its sister company Global Transit for its international transit needs while Maxis sources NTT Asia to handle its bulk of international traffic.

Even Umobile also is using TM Net for its bulk of international traffic handling which accounts for 32% of its needs that's like 1/3 of its capacity.

AS38466 - U Mobile Sdn Bhd
https://bgp.he.net/AS38466

You mean they implement some sort of transparent proxy behind their dynamic IPs and they announce bogons fake ranges of IP addresses?

What Are Bogon IP Addresses?
https://ipregistry.co/blog/bogons

M247(Pronounced as M TWENTY-Four 7) is one of the ISPs which uses them:
https://badpackets.net/hunting-for-bogons-a...-announce-them/

Can try pinging these servers and help report results here:


Open a terminal on your computer and ping each one?

Windows: ping -n 10 <address>
Linux: ping -c 10 <address>

Cut and paste the average rate for each server here.

Thanks!

This post has been edited by Candy12: Oct 23 2020, 11:35 PM

Thanks for helping out with latency results. Here's mine as a reference for using a Maxis home fibre line as comparison.

My current location is Ipoh. It's some 200km in distance from KL gateway NOC and you should see an additional ~5ms added on top of what you're getting for Asian routes because of the additional distance to traverse between Ipoh-->KL.

Someone pointed out that their public IP is not really the standard public IPs as used by the bigger ISPs such as TM, Time or Maxis where they have many IP blocks to spare. It is believed that many of these IPs are temporary bogons which are announced by the company just for short term usage which are borrowed because they do not have enough to spare.

Bogons are reserved ip ranges which were originally used for local/private networks but fall between grey areas of a WAN.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bogon_filtering

They are in ranges of 10.x.x.x, 192.168.x.x and so forth...

Also it is suspected that DiGi employs some sort of transparent proxy behind their network to conserve their overall transit bandwidth and can sometimes cause your contents to load weirdly.

Just like last Saturday, I couldn't load this forum with my Firefox Mobile browser using my DiGi mobile data line. When I switch over to my home wifi it loaded instantly in the afternoon.

I'm not getting my FULL 30Mbps either with my Maxis Home Fibre. Only getting about 27-28Mbps maximum.

Funny thing that this doesn't happen with TM's own Unifi plans which they intentionally do it to stifle competition with their monopoly practices.If you subscribe to their Unifi plans, they'll always cap their own fibre modems(ONTs) at higher speed than the plan you subscribed to giving you the extra space to compensate the TCP overheads.

The problem is with TM, they intentionally capped their fibre modems(ONTs) exactly as what their retail ISP's plan causing the TCP overheads to make your line SLOWER than your subscribed speed.

They implemented a very inefficient method of double level throttling on its users unlike Time and TNB Allo's network where users are only capped via the account they use.

The throttling control for instance:

TM HSBB Wholesale with competing ISP:
TM's own fibre modem(ONT) is throttled by software by TM + retail ISP's user account(2nd level speed restriction)

This increases inefficiency and bandwidth utilization greatly where it's needed. The result, increased CPU utilization of routers to process packets, increased latency due to added processing needed and it indirectly contributes towards global warming for energy wastage. Just like implementing extra MiTM DPI equipment.

If your modem is wrongly capped at say 100Mbps, while your subscribed user account is 1Gbps you still WON'T be getting what you paid for. There are times when suddenly the user cannot get the speed they subscribed but the ISP under TM wholesale network says nothing wrong is with their account. That is when they need to check with TM if their modems have been messed with.

Allo Technology and Time Fibre:

All user lines/ports have equal maximum attainable speeds. Users are just throttled by their accounts which limits the speed that they're subscribed to. If the router at your house is assigned a 1Gbps account, you get 1Gbps speed. If you're assigned to a 50Mbps account, you get only upto 50MBps speed. That is why you'll always get some extra leaked speed when conducting speed tests and this impresses the customers making them happy since they are shown that they "always" get a little more than they subscribed to.

This post has been edited by Candy12: Nov 1 2020, 10:10 PM

Nope my download can never reach 30M, perhaps your Maxis Fibre has ASTRO IPTV subscription where they open up your download higher than regular plans for ASTRO VLAN?

Ask the other Maxis users on TM HSBB they know what I'm talking about.You can go to Maxis's section to ask.

There you go.

Even mine can't reach FULL 30Mbps or with some extra slight leaks.

2~3MB/s is awfully slow for a 500Mbps which suggest heavy throttling?

I also want to consider switching soon. Maxis is getting bad these days.Very lousy European routes and expensive also. They also becoming very rude and unhelpful.

Early termination contract also now following TM's unscrupulous method of imposing full remaining months penalty.

Problem is DiGi peering arrangement is 45% TM, European link seems good with Telia and Cogent.
They also have NTT America among their top 5 upstream provider.



Which region server you usually connect to?

This post has been edited by Candy12: Feb 22 2021, 12:44 AM

Second that!

Celcom has ONE major advantage over the others!

They have China Mobile as one of its Top 3 upstream provider besides GTT and VNPT??
They also have NTT America in the mix.

Among all ISPs now they offer the best value router which is the TP-Link WiFi 6 AX10 router?

Their early termination policy is the most fair among all competition! RM500 one-off penalty!
Downgrade from higher plan to lower only incur RM30 one time service charge while contract is still ongoing(NO RESET). Upgrade is FREE.

Celcom deal looks WAYYY better than DiGi's.

Celcom's upstream providers mix not bad!



Got China Mobile in the mix, got NTT America, got GTT Communications with TIME dotCom in the mix.

It has the best balance of all worlds. Great for China connectivity if you stream/download a lot from there.
Got GTT for Europe connectivity, Got NTT for US/Asia links, TIME for SG/local access.

Best router offer too TP-Link AX10 Wifi 6 router and fair early termination policy of one time RM500.

Torrent and private IP not much of a serious issue if you're not installing cloud based CCTV at home. There's already VPNs to bypass those restrictions.

Upstream means wholesale bandwidth providers which sells to you. Downstream are smaller ISPs which buys bandwidth from you downline.

Anyways Celcom is the only major ISP in Malaysia to have direct peering with China Mobile.

It accomplishes what Maxis has failed. Having good access into China while a mix of GTT, TIME dotCom, Cogent and NTT diversified peers gives it a great advantage to cover all major regions such as Europe, USA and Asia.

For Borneo states, the problem is the South China Sea Crossing challenge which you need to reach first before hitting elsewhere in the world. Singapore is always the main exchange point before your packets are sent either East(USA) or West(Europe).

Celcom's Symmetrical 30M plan is also the CHEAPEST among all TM HSBB retail ISPs.

Only RM80 per month plus 6% SST = ~RM85

This is the closest you can get with competitors with own infra such as Allo which sells its symmetrical 50M for only RM79?

This post has been edited by Candy12: Feb 24 2021, 05:48 PM

For Sarawak the case little special, if you want to bypass having to go through MY-SG, you can work with Telekom Brunei or the Borneo IX exchange they've setup.

For Sarawak, closest major city is Western Australian based? Perth based ISP?
Internode? ColoAU? Telstra Global?

For Perth, Western Australia which is most ideal from Sarawak Borneo side, it's just under 60ms.

Once you hit Australia shores, going from Perth to Sydney/Melbourne will just be another 50ms+ coast to coast.
So expect around 95-105ms.

Australia's most advanced backbone is actually its research network AARNET. Doubt foreign commercial companies can host their servers on it or allowed to use them.