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 Armenian army don't have any answer to UAV TB-2

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KLthinker91
post Oct 4 2020, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(consolewarrior @ Oct 2 2020, 07:27 AM)

Rip russian defense systems and Turkish drones are scary af
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Not necessarily

Azerbaijan doesn't have many modern air defence systems, only Cold War era ones other than S-300 which is kinda expensive to use on this.

The drones are actually highly vulnerable (like US Predator) to more modern systems

Then there's also the issue of competence. Who knows how good the Azerbaijani air defence system really is?
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post Oct 4 2020, 06:35 PM

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QUOTE(consolewarrior @ Oct 4 2020, 06:11 PM)
Russian Electronic warfare is behind turkey currently, those russian defence systems couldn't do much againstTurkish developed UAV
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Russian drone project also face palm right now  sweat.gif
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Russians have far more drones than just Turkey's one hit wonder. They have many different kinds with different capabilities AND are able to employ them together effectively. They are still a formidable power, and Turkey is a follower not a leader in R&D.

Why do you say Russia's EW is behind Turkey? The Azerbaijani conflict is not any such indicator.
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post Oct 4 2020, 06:45 PM

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QUOTE(jibpek @ Oct 3 2020, 01:41 PM)
Individual army might do that, but that is certainly not what the order given.

As I said earlier, this drone is easy to jam. Wait another 2 weeks and see if they can still fight effectively.
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Theoretically they are targetable with AAA and SAMs too, but it depends on 1) how well-maintained those systems are and 2) how competent the crews are

Azerbaijanis possessing the weapon doesn't mean anything if they're not good at tactically employing them
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post Oct 6 2020, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(tim the director @ Oct 5 2020, 04:02 PM)
cold war era SAMs are built to deal with supersonic jets and high flying U-2s. difficult to believe that it cannot handle subsonic , low altittude , unstealthy opponents

i think what most likely happened is that the SAMs were the first targets to be taken out with help from ground based intel
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While you're right that the drones are in a sense quite vulnerable (which is why things like Predator and Reaper have been deemed useful only for insurgency work), they are also not quite as vulnerable as it might seem

Azerbaijan's SAMs are things like SA-4 and SA-6 on one end of the spectrum, and Iglas on the other. Both are pretty damn old and not optimised for the job.

They don't need ground based intel. Look up the Bekaa Valley, this isn't even the first drone vs SAM fight.

More importantly, what is the operational readiness and training proficiency of the Azerbaijani SAM operators...?

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post Oct 7 2020, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(boca120879 @ Oct 7 2020, 09:07 AM)
Assalamu'alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh to Muslim
& Good day to the rest

Armenians having hard time
with TB2 Bayraktars
according to their internal messaging
in RU platforms.

They are saying that
Harops are easier to handle
but TB2 drones are almost invincible
and ultra hard to shoot down.

They also accept that
none of them are downed so far.

(For your information,
this one only relate to drone issue,
not SAM)

source
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The confusion is probably because Harop is a loitering munition, basically a cruise missile. It hovers over the battlefield and then "suicide" attacks into a target. Therefore it is most likely that the attack is being confused as "shot down"


 

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