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 menj kena tangkap [UPDATE 3.0], for surfing child porn

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post Sep 19 2020, 06:03 PM

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Parking dulu.

bigwolf keeps falsely accusing me as a dupe of menj, just because I also support the Malay-first PN/MN/BN which jives with the special Malay/bumi rights already enshrined in the 1957 Federal Constitution of Malaya/1963-Malaysia.
....... Anyone who supports DAP's Malaysian Malaysia, which seek to abolish the special Malay/bumi rights, is going against the Federal Constitution = possibly can be charged for Sedition and/or insulting the Malay/bumi race.
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post Sep 19 2020, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE(Desert Punk @ Sep 19 2020, 06:32 PM)
What happened to your previous account (Khuan0813)?
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Why do you falsely accuse me as dupe of Khuan0813.? Trolling.?

After his 30-day suspension on 16 July 2020, Khuan0813 has resurfaced about a week ago at the U Mobile thread. His lately post, .......

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=98216323
QUOTE(Khuan0813 @ Sep 18 2020 @ 12:00 PM)
Go to buy a U Mobile prepaid and try to use all the apps in all of your locations first, if the line is good in all locations, then you just go to subscribe the GX68 plan. smile.gif

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post Sep 19 2020, 07:39 PM

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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Sep 19 2020 @ 06:03 PM)
Parking dulu.

bigwolf keeps falsely accusing me as a dupe of menj, just because I also support the Malay-first PN/MN/BN which jives with the special Malay/bumi rights already enshrined in the 1957 Federal Constitution of Malaya/1963-Malaysia.
....... Anyone who supports DAP's Malaysian Malaysia, which seek to abolish the special Malay/bumi rights, is going against the Federal Constitution = possibly can be charged for Sedition and/or insulting the Malay/bumi race.
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QUOTE(steady bro @ Sep 19 2020, 06:09 PM)
hi menj, how are you?
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Are you serious.?
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post Sep 19 2020, 07:47 PM

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The BIG question is, how did Bkt Aman know that menj was surfing for child porn and downloaded them.? Does this mean Bkt Aman is spying on our web-surfing, if so how they do this.? hmm.gif
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post Sep 19 2020, 07:54 PM

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QUOTE(scorptim @ Sep 19 2020, 08:43 PM)
Hosting porn sites really can make that much until can buy a bungalow ah? Wtf....
Need more dirt on him for that to happen.

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IIRC, from reading old threads about menj, (= because LYN "pastor", unknown warrior, "fought" with menj), menj has an IT company helping businesses open their own websites and also has an online store selling some kind of stuffs.
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post Sep 19 2020, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Sep 19 2020 @ 07:47 PM)
The BIG question is, how did Bkt Aman know that menj was surfing for child porn and downloaded them.? Does this mean Bkt Aman is spying on our web-surfing, if so how they do this.?  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(rooney723 @ Sep 19 2020, 07:48 PM)
u didnt ask when u kena interrogated meh? hahahahha
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No lah. Don't know why the police drop my childporn case - maybe like how AG Tommy Thomas had dropped the cases against the DAP ADUN and members who supported and aided the LTTE terrorist organization. lol.gif


QUOTE(ken_hidaibuki @ Sep 19 2020, 07:58 PM)
Dah bayar bail menj?
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No need to bayar. The police drop my case. lol.gif
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PS - The Admins here can confirm I am menj. Please confirm with them that my above story is true. lol.gif
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This post has been edited by lurkingaround: Sep 19 2020, 09:58 PM
SUSlurkingaround
post Sep 19 2020, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(silent_stalker @ Sep 19 2020, 10:03 PM)
I think theres alot of questions regarding this. I didnt want to butt in, but ill explain abit.

Ok, 1st of all, our authorities,  i will not say which 1, is using a software called ICACCOPS or in full Internet Crime Against Children — Child Online Protective Services. Yea, its long, not sure who named it 😂. There are other software to detect terrorism. Since this is about porn, i will not go into that. Now this software is used to catch those surfing child porn. It has the algorithms to detect using keywords n such. And thats how they catch those watching child porns.

Now, i noticed some are asking about the "cjild porn n others" part. Well the others is actually involve hentai. As hentai is currently borderline art and porn, its categorized as others. It can be legal, and it can be not legal depends on the content.

Regarding normal porn. Technically its ok to watch online only. The problem is if u download n keep it in ur storage. Doesnt matter if cloud storage or local storage. U cant. Its illegal. U also cant share or distribute porn. So, lets say some dude upload a porn video in k, he is not only breaking the forum rules, but also the law.

So, if anyone here is keeping porn in their removable drive, thumb drive, cloud storage, local drive.... i suggest u clear it 😅

Hope that clears it
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Thanks for the information. .......

https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/201...n-users/1650523 - Experts laud new police system tracking child porn users - Tuesday, 10 Jul 2018
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Seems, many police departments in the world are sharing information on childporn purveyors who may reside in any part of the world. The world's police also use the popular P2P websites to trawl for such offenders by using keywords to look for childporn files uploaded and/or downloaded by the offenders.

Note that only P2P websites are involved in these police actions. So, the non-P2P prawnhub and axehamster websites are safe. smile.gif
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post Sep 19 2020, 10:39 PM

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https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5028395/+40 - monitor pc pun kena rampas = the related thread that ID the pedophile as menj, ie the old photos on LYN of menj's bookshelf and notice board match those in the OP video.
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post Sep 19 2020, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(reed90 @ Sep 19 2020, 10:51 PM)
Lol

Btw this tered manages to invite obe to come in
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Please tell, why is obefiend a legend at LYN.?
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post Sep 20 2020, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(Ewww! @ Sep 20 2020, 03:57 AM)
Holy/pious menj kena tangkap tengah gosok bebird?
Omg! Ujian tuhan?
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QUOTE(prince12 @ Sep 20 2020, 08:55 AM)
Thought this kind of people very holy one, but how come?
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QUOTE(DarkAeon @ Sep 20 2020, 08:58 AM)
don't be suprized in front like alim, behind tengok hentai, kiddy porn. it's probably the norm
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QUOTE(buysellaccount @ Sep 20 2020, 08:59 AM)
Outwardly ultra holy buggers always have some dirty ass sick fakking secrets.

Bani prime must be another dirty ass scat loving pedo.
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Actually, all of us are inwardly devilish or evil, eg we are prone to random thoughts of hate, anger, sexual lust, greed, selfishness, jealousy/envy, fears/worries, doubts, etc. Only difference between born-evil/devilish people is whether they are law-abiding or law-breaking wrt their deeds or actions, eg pedophilia, rape, murder, robbery, theft, cheating/scamming, perjury, defamation, criminal breach of trust, etc.
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menj, an IT computer expert, thought he could indulge in online childporn or pedophilia with his computer in secret by surfing P2P or torrent websites where many pedophiles share their childporn files and/or the police may plant such incriminating files as honeypots.
....... In effect, menj got caught by the thought-police for a thought-crime since he did not actually commit pedophilia = he did not had sex with underaged children.

If people can be arrested and jailed for watching porn or for having dirty sexual thoughts, nearly all of us would be in jail, ie except those few born blind.

Secretly deep in our hearts, nearly all of us would want to be born to become like the Great Great Leader Kim Jong Un or his sister; or like the Thai King or his consort = can have anything we desire.
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Hence there is little chance of saving this world or earth from a coming Apocalypse or Dooms Day.
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post Sep 20 2020, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Sep 20 2020 @ 10:05 AM)
....... In effect, menj got caught by the thought-police for a thought-crime since he did not actually commit pedophilia = he did not had sex with underaged children.
QUOTE(9m2w @ Sep 20 2020, 10:09 AM)
In the time it took you to post this, a quick search on the definition, history and nature of child porn will tell you thats a loaded and inaccurate statement. There's a reason why peddling of child porn is a serious offence.

You wanna ammend that statement?
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menj did not commit pedophilia or did not have sex with underaged children = fact.!

Did menj peddle in childporn.?

It is against Malaysian Law for a person to have childporn or adultporn files on his/her computer or phone. But only those having childporn files on their computers or phones are hunted down by the police sampai ke lubang cacing. So, those with adultporn files should not be too judgmental of menj because they are also guilty of a thought-crime.
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post Sep 20 2020, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(jamilselamat @ Sep 20 2020, 10:18 AM)
lurkingaround has probably watched 'Cuties' 10 times by now. laugh.gif

My stance on CP is simple. If making it involved real children put in the act, then anyone who did it, distributed it and enjoyed watching it should be punished to the full extent of the law.
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I only watched the Youtube commentary on "Cuties" once, just to find out what the controversy was about. laugh.gif

It is also against the Law for people to watch adultporn/AP. So, I think those guilty "criminals" who watched AP should not be too hypocritical or judgmental towards CP watchers like menj. It's like a robber should not be too condemning of a murderer. Get it.?
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post Sep 20 2020, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Sep 20 2020, 10:51 AM)
pedophilia does not mean have sex with children only.....
pedophilia means adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children.

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A person just having exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children is not a crime, even though it is a thought-crime. Which acts or deeds done by such a person or pedophile are actually against the Law.?

Afaik, they are ... a pedophile having sex with underaged children, peddling childporn files or having possession of childporn files.

Similarly, a person may have exclusive sexual attraction to adults and for him/her, it is against Malaysian law for him/her to peddle in adultporn files or have possession of adultporn files.
....... About 150 years ago, in Imperial China, it was against the Law for a person to commit adultery or fornication or having sex with adults outside of marriage = was executed. Today, in Saudi Arabia, adulterers are executed. Today in Malaysia, it is still against the Law to entice a married person to commit adultery.
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post Sep 20 2020, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(sidthesloth @ Sep 20 2020, 11:34 AM)
Lmao there's nothing hypocritical about a robber who condemn murder especially murdering children. Your argument is flawed
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It is hypocritical and too condemning/judgmental for /ktards who have illegally watched adultporn to post, "put menj in jail and throw away the key" or "menj, rot in jail and burn in hell" for watching childporn.
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post Sep 20 2020, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Sep 20 2020 @ 12:18 PM)
A person just having exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children is not a crime, even though it is a thought-crime. Which acts or deeds done by such a person or pedophile are actually against the Law.?

Afaik, they are ... a pedophile having sex with underaged children, peddling childporn files or having possession of childporn files.

Similarly, a person may have exclusive sexual attraction to adults and for him/her, it is against Malaysian law for him/her to peddle in adultporn files or have possession of adultporn files.
....... About 150 years ago, in Imperial China, it was against the Law for a person to commit adultery or fornication or having sex with adults outside of marriage = was executed. Today, in Saudi Arabia, adulterers are executed. Today in Malaysia, it is still against the Law to entice a married person to commit adultery.
QUOTE(RallyNight @ Sep 20 2020, 11:48 AM)
PDRM
Hellu police ada pedo sini.
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https://www.stopitnow.org.uk/concerned-abou...e-a-paedophile/
Is it illegal to be a paedophile?

It is important to distinguish between sexual preference and sexual behaviour. Having a sexual preference for children (paedophilia) is not in itself illegal.

It is acting on the interest which constitutes an offence.

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post Sep 20 2020, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Sep 20 2020 @ 12:10 PM)
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https://www.stopitnow.org.uk/concerned-abou...e-a-paedophile/
  Is it illegal to be a paedophile?

It is important to distinguish between sexual preference and sexual behaviour. Having a sexual preference for children (paedophilia) is not in itself illegal.

It is acting on the interest which constitutes an offence.

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QUOTE(justinr @ Sep 20 2020, 12:20 PM)
Quote UK law pahal. bodo
this is Malaysia.
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Fyi, Malaysian Law is based on UK Law, eg sodomy is still a crime in Malaysia because this law has not been changed since British colonial days. But in UK, the sodomy law has been abolished. Before the 1990s, the convicted in Malaysia could appeal all the way to the UK Supreme Court, ie from Malaysia's Federal Court to the UK Supreme Court.

Can you quote the Malaysia law which states it is a crime for a person to have primary or extreme sexual preference for underaged children.?
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post Sep 20 2020, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(steady bro @ Sep 20 2020, 12:33 PM)
UPDATE 20/9/2020

- as of 12.30pm 20/9/2020, menj's fb is still not updated, he used to post updates every single day without fail on his fb page, but his last update was 3 days ago (17/9/2020), and this video of his arrest appeared on 18/9/2020
- so is he still in lokap/remand?  hmm.gif
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Most likely menj is still in police lockup under a remand order of a few days for the police to complete their investigation on menj. Later, he will be charged in court and likely given bail if he pleads not-guilty.

PS - I am not menj.

Inb4 - he is also not suci murni.
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post Sep 20 2020, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(jagadis @ Sep 20 2020, 12:34 PM)
Malaysia follows UK laws. We also take UK cases as a precedent.

Btw. Why can't you agree with the statement. Its the same as wanting to rob a bank and actually robbing a bank. Wanting to rob a bank is not punishable by the law until you start acting on it in some way!
QUOTE(C-Fu @ Sep 20 2020, 12:41 PM)
don't know if you realise it or just being ignorant, but pedo pedo-apologists often use robbing bank laws when doing a pedo analogy.

anyway you don't have to act on it. just by sharing bank schematics, or layout is a punishable offence. even when you say it's in the interest of education or some shit. so yeah maybe... use a diff analogy? or stop using analogies so people don't see you as being an apologist.
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Can you please quote the Malaysian law that mentally wanting to rob a bank is a crime.?
....... Sharing bank schematics or layouts is usually a bank staff/insider revealing the bank's confidential information which is against the bank's rules and regulations = may result in a civil suit by the bank - I don't think it is against Malaysian Law. Please quote the relevant Malaysian Law on this. OTOH, it is a crime in Malaysia to break the Official Secrets Act by revealing confidential government information.
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post Sep 20 2020, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(bigwolf @ Sep 20 2020, 01:14 PM)
Thinking is not a crime yes that is true. I thought of raping this or that actress, that is not a crime. Acting out the fantasy is definitely a crime. That is correct

But do you know watching child porn is already a crime by itself? Can't find the info now, but I recalled reading before cp is more serious (and higher priority) crime than your "normal" porn

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Ok here's what I found with quick google search:
https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/202...n-hot-w/1897863
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Even watching adultporn is against Malaysian Law, ie the MCMC Act = misusing your Internet facility to watch obscene or lucah stuffs. In normal practice, this law is seldom enforced, eg those who keep adultporn files in their laptops or phones for personal watching can get arrested at airport checks. Instead the MCMC prefers to block all the popular adultporn websites via the ISPs.

Watching childporn is more criminal than watching adultporn. The other difference between watching childporn and adultporn is that the former nearly always has to be first downloaded as files to your computer or phone, usually from P2P or torrent websites before watching = police can retrieve solid evidence from the computer or phone against the childporn watchers in court.
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post Sep 20 2020, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Sep 20 2020 @ 01:20 PM)
Can you please quote the Malaysian law that mentally wanting to rob a bank is a crime.?
....... Sharing bank schematics or layouts is usually a bank staff/insider revealing the bank's confidential information which is against the bank's rules and regulations = may result in a civil suit by the bank - I don't think it is against Malaysian Law. Please quote the relevant Malaysian Law on this. OTOH, it is a crime in Malaysia to break the Official Secrets Act by revealing confidential government information.
QUOTE(C-Fu @ Sep 20 2020, 02:56 PM)
it doesn't matter if you think it's "mental sharing" . that's just arguing for the same of making an argument, and ako malas nak layan benda macam ni la bro  doh.gif

banks schematics are not under OSA/ISA. maybe try learning about OSA and the process of OSA first before we continue?

or just you know, google about criminal intents? because seems like you have no clue about civil and criminal suits. at least lepak la dulu dengan loyer2 bro  confused.gif
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Since you seem a bit lazy, come, let me layan or "spoon-feed" you some pertinent legal information about the revealing of confidential bank schematics or layouts, .......
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https://asklegal.my/p/private-and-confident...h-of-confidence - What qualifies as "confidential information" in Malaysia? - 2018-09-01
There are no written laws about confidential information

This hardly means that we have no laws on it, but whether it’s an employer, a client, a supplier, a business partner - the way confidential information is protected will largely depend on the contract you sign. You’ll generally have a clause defining exactly what “confidential information” means in your contract, how long it will be confidential, and so on.

In layman definitions, we understand confidential information as:
“Privileged communication shared with only a few people for furthering certain purposes, such as with an attorney for a legal matter, or with a doctor for treatment of a disease. Receiver of confidential information is generally prohibited from using it to take advantage of the giver.” - emphasis added


One conclusion you can gather from that is that not everything that people say is “confidential” is actually “confidential”. In law, the rules are usually defined to very technical degree in your contract, like in this example of a Non-Disclosure Agreement (NDA). They come from some specific rules which determine if a set of information is really confidential:

1. The info must be restricted

2. It was reasonably clear that the information was confidential ...

So what kind of trouble can I get into?

If someone reveals confidential information entrusted to them, they can be sued by the owner for losses caused by the revelation. It’s called an action for breach of confidence, and you’d claim for things like loss of profits, damage to reputation, and so on. But that’s actually not very useful - if your secret recipe got leaked, it’s out there for good and no amount of monetary compensation will undo that.

Your best bet to protect any confidential information you have is through prevention, not a lawsuit. You could restrict access to the information, control who can use the information, and clearly outline liabilities in your contracts with employees, suppliers, sub-contractors, and business partners. An example of a commonly signed contract is the Non-Disclosure Agreement which we’ve mentioned above, which outlines the rights and responsibilities of parties with regard to how confidential information should be exchanged and protected (including what happens should there be a breach of confidence).

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