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TSreddevil
post Sep 18 2020, 10:54 PM, updated 6y ago

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Hi everyone,

Can we start a thread to discuss Dividend Stock?
Any good recommendation aside reits?
Currently, am looking at SCIENTX (4731).......
Ziet Inv
post Sep 18 2020, 11:05 PM

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Here to drop some love for Maybank (that won’t be paying dividend this semi annual hahaha)

Backbone of Malaysia, attractive dividend yield of 6% if I l’m not mistaken. However future growth seems pretty gloomy especially when digital banks are popping up 1 by 1

REITs in general are the bread and butter dividend stocks in Malaysia but curious to see what others prefer smile.gif

Definitely a great thread to stick around for dividend lovers
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post Sep 18 2020, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(Ziet Inv @ Sep 18 2020, 11:05 PM)
Here to drop some love for Maybank (that won’t be paying dividend this semi annual hahaha)

Backbone of Malaysia, attractive dividend yield of 6% if I l’m not mistaken. However future growth seems pretty gloomy especially when digital banks are popping up 1 by 1

REITs in general are the bread and butter dividend stocks in Malaysia but curious to see what others prefer smile.gif

Definitely a great thread to stick around for dividend lovers
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post Sep 19 2020, 11:24 AM

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post Sep 19 2020, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(Ziet Inv @ Sep 18 2020, 11:05 PM)
Here to drop some love for Maybank (that won’t be paying dividend this semi annual hahaha)

Backbone of Malaysia, attractive dividend yield of 6% if I l’m not mistaken. However future growth seems pretty gloomy especially when digital banks are popping up 1 by 1

REITs in general are the bread and butter dividend stocks in Malaysia but curious to see what others prefer smile.gif

Definitely a great thread to stick around for dividend lovers
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Maybank?

A good exercise is to run some back day testing.

1.assume.. say back in 2013. You purchase Maybank for its dividend yields and for a time frame as far back as 2013, how would rate investing in Maybank for its dividends?

You would assume the investor would have made big profit right?

7 years plus of dividends wo.... Sure untung one la

Yes?


Now run and test it based on 2 scenarios assumptions...

1. One was able to invest in Maybank at the cheapest possible price for that year....
2. One was unlucky. Purchased at the highest price of the year.

Wanna guess the result?

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post Sep 19 2020, 04:12 PM

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I've been a long term dividend investor.. it's been a very rewarding journey but its not very popular in Malaysia since people prefer making a quick buck.
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post Sep 19 2020, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 19 2020, 04:05 PM)
Maybank?

A good exercise is to run some back day testing.

1.assume.. say back in 2013. You purchase Maybank for its dividend yields and for a time frame as far back as 2013, how would rate investing in Maybank for its dividends?

You would assume the investor would have made big profit right?

7 years plus of dividends wo.... Sure untung one la

Yes?
Now run and test it based on 2 scenarios assumptions...

1. One was able to invest in Maybank at the cheapest possible price for that year....
2. One was unlucky. Purchased at the highest price of the year.

Wanna guess the result?
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Don't get me wrong, at no point did I ever said Maybank is the best dividend stock, in fact I believe there are a lot more growing dividend stocks that are better worth your money.

Looking back historical data does prove your point, however those are mainly attributable to unavoidable events (hyflux default etc.)

Having said that, historical performance does not 100% depict the company's future performance. It is true, Maybank is a lagging bank supported by the Gov, but that also gives it a special spot in Malaysia as it is heavily supported by institutions.

Ideally, the best dividend stock, in my opinion, have at least some kind of growth in their capital value, while paying out healthy dividends to its shareholder.

You are however, entitled to your opinion. Though I'm sure there's a whole thread of Maybank shareholders over there for such discussion smile.gif
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post Sep 19 2020, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(Ziet Inv @ Sep 19 2020, 04:16 PM)
Don't get me wrong, at no point did I ever said Maybank is the best dividend stock, in fact I believe there are a lot more growing dividend stocks that are better worth your money.

Looking back historical data does prove your point, however those are mainly attributable to unavoidable events (hyflux default etc.)

Having said that, historical performance does not 100% depict the company's future performance. It is true, Maybank is a lagging bank supported by the Gov, but that also gives it a special spot in Malaysia as it is heavily supported by institutions.

Ideally, the best dividend stock, in my opinion, have at least some kind of growth in their capital value, while paying out healthy dividends to its shareholder.

You are however, entitled to your opinion. Though I'm sure there's a whole thread of Maybank shareholders over there for such discussion smile.gif
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Well.. here is my honest opinion.

Yup. It was a bad post from me. Guilty as hell.

But the truth is, I had tested the data and even if I was able to magically choose the lowest price possible and purchase Maybank and invest for its dividends... the yield or return is miserable.

And if I am not lucky and I buy at the highest price instead of the lowest price of the year, I could even lose money despite getting the dividends.

This is a point I want to make this point.

Yeah... but hyflux was just a one off event. So what if one invest for its dividends and another hyflux event happen in the future?

And the problem with dedicated threads.. lol.. most just do not want to hear the negatives...

Negatives are risks. Stock market is all about managing the risk. Should one just buy any stock for its dividends and pretend that there is no risk involved? And that there is no risk in dividend investing?

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QUOTE(reddevil @ Sep 18 2020, 10:54 PM)
Hi everyone,

Can we start a thread to discuss Dividend Stock?
Any good recommendation aside reits?
Currently, am looking at SCIENTX (4731).......
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Dividend yield at 2%+?? em hai kua...
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post Sep 19 2020, 05:20 PM

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FPI not a bad company. Dividend stock with reasonable good free cash flow.
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post Sep 19 2020, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 19 2020, 05:10 PM)
Well.. here is my honest opinion.

Yup. It was a bad post from me. Guilty as hell.

But the truth is, I had tested the data and even if I was able to magically choose the lowest price possible and purchase Maybank and invest for its dividends... the yield or return is miserable.

And if I am not lucky and I buy at the highest price instead of the lowest price of the year, I could even lose money despite getting the dividends.

This is a point I want to make this point.

Yeah... but hyflux was just a one off event. So what if one invest for its dividends and another hyflux event happen in the future?

And the problem with dedicated threads.. lol.. most just do not want to hear the negatives...

Negatives are risks. Stock market is all about managing the risk. Should one just buy any stock for its dividends and pretend that there is no risk involved? And that there is no risk in dividend investing?
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You definitely have a strong point there, and I fully agree with you that one shouldn’t be blinded by what’s presented by the company.

In essence, the underlying business model is more important than ever - ability to stay profitable while being relevant as time progresses.

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post Sep 19 2020, 07:22 PM

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So how do we define a "good" dividend stock?
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QUOTE(Havoc Knightmare @ Sep 19 2020, 04:12 PM)
I've been a long term dividend investor.. it's been a very rewarding journey but its not very popular in Malaysia since people prefer making a quick buck.
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Can recommend some dividend stocks?
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post Sep 19 2020, 08:02 PM

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QUOTE(wkchia @ Sep 19 2020, 05:13 PM)
Dividend yield at 2%+?? em hai kua...
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i am newbie in klse.... what about the bonus share, not a plus to dividend?
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post Sep 19 2020, 08:43 PM

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Hey guys, got a question here regarding dividend stock.
For example this company.

I need to buy before before 28/9 (example 27/9) and I can sell after 29/9 (example 30/9)? I will get the full special dividend of 10cent? Meaning that for 200K I will get around 27k dividend (price around RM0.72). Am I right? or is there any special catch? I'm skeptical its gonna be this easy. Appreciate if anyone can enlighten me. Thank you in advance.

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post Sep 19 2020, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(reddevil @ Sep 19 2020, 07:58 PM)
Can recommend some dividend stocks?
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An easy one is RCE Capital.. I've been collecting for 2 years plus.
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post Sep 19 2020, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(l K l P l @ Sep 19 2020, 08:43 PM)
Hey guys, got a question here regarding dividend stock.
For example this company.

I need to buy before before 28/9 (example 27/9) and I can sell after 29/9 (example 30/9)? I will get the full special dividend of 10cent? Meaning that for 200K I will get around 27k dividend (price around RM0.72). Am I right? or is there any special catch? I'm skeptical its gonna be this easy. Appreciate if anyone can enlighten me. Thank you in advance.

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The problem is u are buying at a premium price now, once the div paid, the share price will drop maybe below ur breakeven price.

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post Sep 19 2020, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(reddevil @ Sep 19 2020, 08:02 PM)
i am newbie in klse.... what about the bonus share, not a plus to dividend?
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Bonus share got nothing to do with div, what u get after bonus share is a diluted div/share.
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post Sep 20 2020, 12:24 AM

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QUOTE(reddevil @ Sep 18 2020, 10:54 PM)
Hi everyone,

Can we start a thread to discuss Dividend Stock?
Any good recommendation aside reits?
Currently, am looking at SCIENTX (4731).......
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Interesting. In this current situation, I think I would go for Bank stocks.
Earning surely would come back and people who borrowed money will have to pay interest no matter what unless they bankrupt. That's the only big risk.


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post Sep 20 2020, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(wkchia @ Sep 19 2020, 11:30 PM)
Bonus share got nothing to do with div, what u get after bonus share is a diluted div/share.
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how is that?

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