holy ****. go grab that one!!!

if u buy it there, let me know!

This post has been edited by apisgogo: Jan 8 2008, 04:55 PM

my eye fixed on 605...

now where to get best deal?

i'll buy, if around this time.

if the price is not much different, why not!



why not?

u do a community service lah

haha, tax we pay lah... mana aci if u bayar...

50% tax.. quite high already huh...
SGD 699 = RM1600 (approx.) + 50% tax (RM800) = RM 2400 approx.

here sells RM2500, plus no worries to go anywhere for warranty. hm... i think not worth, if kena tax lah
or is it true 50% tax will be applied? or less?

no way to avoid tax aa?

This post has been edited by apisgogo: Jan 9 2008, 11:18 AM

if 30%

SGD 699 = RM1600 (approx.) + 30% tax (RM480) = RM 2080 approx.

okay lah... then must add rx's charges lah...

605 lah if 705, i dah sapu...

Yammy equipped with those Burr-Brown thingy. should sounds good, but quite harsh on movies. I personally prefer onkyo and denon. This audio stuff u must auditioned them personally.


here at JBL 5.1 is around 1200.

go for bookshelf and floor standing speaker lah. Like denon speaker (dont remember what model) 2 floor, 2 bookshelves, 1 centre (RM1500) plus 800-700 for decent sub.

then ur speaker can match ur amp.

i wont suggest any 'cubical' or package speakers. depends on budget also at least speakers u always could buy 1 by 1. remember speaker is essential!

apparently axiom ships internationally.

http://www.axiomaudio.com

nice high-end speaker there...

after reading this:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=935808

im thinking to get 705 over the 605, because of its ability to matrix 5.1 PCM to 6.1/7.1 speakers. quite useful to me.

what say u guys? any user want to comments?

This post has been edited by apisgogo: Jan 14 2008, 01:36 PM

as for the SR605, Harvey list price is 2999.

do they entertain nego? (i remember one have 25XX)

okay, let me give u guys a little situation...

as we know, currently PS3 only outputting PCM (plus Dolby TrueHD) via HDMI, meaning decoding is done in the PS3. We never know when BitSreaming HBR will be added to the PS3 or might not.

So currently, does it means that we dont need those A/V receivers that have the capabilities of decoding HD audio? only those could handle PCM is adequate? no need to splurge large cash on receiver...

assuming PS3 is the blu-ray player, 5.1 speaker system.

hm.. the quality is the same? read on AVS forum, is the same, master rep. also.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=935808

just trying to justify myself

i dont know abt cheaper, but Yammy 661 have good review. able to matrix PCM to 6.1/7.1

if you dont care abt HDMI, onkyo 505 also could handle PCM well, but no HDMI. So stuck with Multichannel out (Sams 1400, Pana bd30) PS3 out of equation.

i have tested them,

yammy, sounds a bit harsh on movies, great on music, esp live concerts.

denon, excellent on movies, but dosent impress me on music.

onkyo 505/605 balance


but these according to my taste, different people, different outcome.

just found out, yam 661 is HDMI 1.2.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=738511

apparently, 661 is more future proof than 605.

661 able to allow processing on PCM sources. Onkyo 605 wont process it. but onkyo 605 able to accept bitstream HBR from players (sams 1400, pana bd30)

haiyo, Im torn between yams 661 and onkyo 605... i planned to purchase it end of the month (CNY bonus )

thinking to get standalone bluray (sam 1400 or pana bd30) but my finance minister wants PS3 (haha can u believe it, she wanted to play games as well).. no choice, have to heavily consider PS3. so im leaning towards yams 661.. need to go audition again!

This post has been edited by apisgogo: Jan 18 2008, 01:06 PM

wah rx, u like the denons dont u?

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=738511

most blu-ray player outputting PCM HBR audio (decodes Dolby THD, DTS HD MA and output it in PCM HDMI), only few could bitstream it (Pana BD30, Sams 1400, DTS HD MA is non currently).

while 605 could receive this HBR in bitstream, it also could take PCM, but cant apply any processing on it (also cant matrix to 6.1/7.1).

I dont know about the denons that u mentioned. but yams 661 able to accept HDMI PCM from bluray players plus apply processing on it (could apply DDPIIx, DSP, 6.1/7.1, bla bla)

i only could explain it in layman terms... proceed to avs to go further

This post has been edited by apisgogo: Jan 18 2008, 02:21 PM

u know, after scouting @ AVS forum, i be confuse and lost than ever... but i somehow manage to grasp few things.

as for ur Q, 661 definitely cant decode TrueHD and DTS HD MA.

As we know, TrueHD, DTS HD MA capable receiver only decodes these HD audio in bitstream (bit-to-bit). Currently there is no blu-ray player could bitstream DTS-HD MA, except PCM (thru HDMI or MultiChannel Analog out). DTS HD MA players that could bitstream it is Pana BD50 which hell's knows when it will be launched.

So most blu-ray (including our beloved PS3) sends this TrueHD in PCM via HDMI. (no DTS HD MA yet, god's knows when it is). So if the player send the audio as PCM to the receiver, TrueHD light will not appear.

So, 661 able to handle this PCM audio and able to matrix it to 6.1/7.1 and apply processing (PL IIx, DSP, EQ etc etc). plus we could get Yamaha's famous DSP processing as well. Plus, DAC in 661 is Burr-brown, correct me if im wrong.

Even onkyo 605 able to decodes TrueHD DTS HD MA (only in bitstream), it cant apply any processing on PCM audio. 705 can.

hope this helps.


as for 5.1 or 7.1, on my experience it quite impressive. Surrounds sound more depth.

This post has been edited by apisgogo: Jan 18 2008, 03:47 PM

that's why im not really cares what receiver that has HD audio decoding...

thats why most ppl pissed Blu-ray winning.. not complete yet

Tosh A35 could bitstream both. done!