and also flashing BIOS IINM.

lor, really ah? in that case, if i push my card to 800/4000, then rosak (what you expect? running perfectly?), then warranty still got ah?

i thought warranty void even if you do software oc...

As long as there's no parts on the card that fall from the card itself and there's no burntmark, you card is still valid for RMA.

Owh, and not to forget to make sure that you never leave any traces that you've opened the heatsink even on the original screws.

haha
now days got so many software 4 noobs to oc their things...

worth it or not depend the ratio of performance gained and money paid ..

for example 8800GTS series got few nice OC model ..those really worth money ... additional 10% increment for the same amount of money paid as well ..

but not all OC version worth the money paid ...

i see colorful, Palit and Galaxy are the best stock OC'ed GC... at lower price summo... unfortunately it's gonna change soon...

for me i personally think tat paying other ppl for OC is stupid.... it's something only daddy's boy will do... 1 of the company doing OC service for money is vadim... i can do tat for free myself...

i would go for default clock card and go try my luck in OC. i enjoy that.haha

proud of galaxy 8600GT OC Version DDR3 owner..

you can also get a pre-oc'ed GC, and then OC it even higher than what achievable with a non-oc'ed card.

xfx still my choice of preoc'ed card, even with that suky cooler lolz. But it can go higher with better cooling for sure.

wat the 60/60 , u guy have own opinion .... i'll choice oc edition .. because newbie in ocer

I thought you changed your cooler already!?!?

yes, this was what i had dream of with my last GC, BFG 6800GT OC (factory pre-OC GC)
and the HIS X1950Pro IceQ3 version (also factory pre-OC)

but then, from my experience, these both so call factory pre-OC GC was not that good in OC anymore,
as they had been trip down every potential of them by the ('factory') and OC was no-no for it.

somehow, with reference design GC, i can gain more OC with lower price.........

well for OC version at least if RMA.. we can can get oced speed by default..
rather than buy standard which cannot guarantee the OCability for the next card...

the important thing for me.. is the performance/price ratio...

well, IIRC, some ppl said that pre-oc-ed old series gc can't do much manual oc, compared to reference design gc..

but in my case, and all other ppl who're using the latest batch of pre-oc'ed gc, i see that the power can go even higher than the reference design gc..

so i can say that if this question were to be asked like last year or two, then probably the answer should be "no"

but for this year, and the upcoming ones (hopefully), it'll definitely be "yes"

Pre overclocked card does had its value, especially involving on the shader clocks in the latest graphic card where its still not support manual tweaking over software. One had to manual tweak and flash the video card bios to change those settings, where not many are actually expert into doing it.

which is y i said only mummy's boy will do so... pro tools for pro dudes... stock tools are for fools...

if there are two cards, one oced, the other non oc-ed, and the price difference is zero or minimal then might as well get the pre oced one. cos some brands are expensive at reference clocks while others are cheaper but at higher clocks. the extra cost is for the packaging for instance. getting a cheaper pre-oced cards that has bare packaging like palit/XV/colourful/galaxy beats game demos anytime. and some brands have better pcb design/pre overvoltage/better components which gives better headroom for ocing. if u dont like taking risks pre-oced is the way to go. if you love taking risks and want crazy clock speeds then pre oc-ed should be the way to go. but depends on luck too. it all depends on the price in my opinion.

yeah, not all OC version are worth

Too bad no manufacturer that willing just to sell their card without any bundle ... it would cut down lots of cost and make gc much more worth of purchase for us as consumer .... hahahah