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TSAxelredan
post Sep 7 2020, 09:48 AM, updated 5y ago

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Hi,

I've already decided to go the SARMs route after doing my own research. Will probably go with RAD140.

Wanted to check the legitimacy of Sven Pharma and Alpha Laboratories and SARMSCombo. Has anyone used these brands? Any reviews of them?

Feel free to recommend me any other legitimate sellers around. Cheers smile.gif

Stats:
Body Age/Weight/Height: 22 y.o. 66kg 169cm
Bench Press: 60kg plates x 5 reps (excluding bar)
Squats: 60kg plates x 10 reps(no belt support)

The photos of me are all 100% natty.

UPDATE 1 (4/1/2021):
Product: Decided to go with SarmsCombo RAD140 from Shopee. Testolone, 50 tabs of 15mg in a tiny bottle.

Dosage: I decided to split the dosage with my girl for safety reasons and cost effectiveness.

Both me and her are taking 15mg tabs EOD (every other day). Essentially this can be thought of as taking 7.5mg every day.

My reasoning:
1. 7.5mg of RAD140 should be equivalent or better than 15-20mg of Ostarine in terms of muscle gains.
2. 7.5mg obviously would be less suppressive than 15mg of RAD140.
3. Her taking 7.5mg is suitable for her as girls are way more sensitive to androgenic side effects.
4. And since she's more sensitive it should be very easy and quick to tell whether in fact the Sarms are bunk (ie: sugar pills) or in fact laced with prohormones (ie: Dbol).
5. RAD140 has a 60 hour half life so it doesn't clear the system (so 15mg EOD is fine). Yes I know 15mg ED is a lot better than 15mg EOD.

Conclusion: If it works for both of us expectedly then good. If it works for her, but not for me, then the sarms are real. If it doesn't work for her, the sarms is bunk. If it works too well and gives her massive sides, then the sarms we bought could be bunk. Time will tell.

Results: (last updated 10/01/2021)
Week 1: No strength gains. No muscle gains. No suppression. No side effects on both of us.
Week 2: Minor strength gains (could be placebo). No muscle gains (can't tell). No suppression. No side effects on both of us (minor headaches, nothing else).
Week 3: Minor strength gains. Natural progression. No side effects or suppression. Suspecting that the Sarms are fake.
Week 4: Minor strength gains. Natural progression. No side effects or suppression. Suspecting that the Sarms are fake.
Week 5: Fake sarms
Week 6: Fake sarms
Week 7: Fake sarms
Week 8: Fake sarms

Note: Be aware that the results are based on the particular dosage, brand, etc that I got and am currently doing. My results won't be indicative of yours as your mileage may vary simply due to dosage or other brands. Consider this a review. Also I am not a noob when it comes to weight training. I got most of my gains at 17 and have been on and off since (student life). So don't expect to look like me.

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post Sep 7 2020, 09:57 AM

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Cheap..most probably laced with prohormones. Avoid it
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post Sep 7 2020, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(OneFarEast @ Sep 7 2020, 09:57 AM)
Cheap..most probably laced with prohormones. Avoid it
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Don't think sarms are supposed to be that expensive anyways? Considering how much cheaper they are in alibaba
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post Sep 7 2020, 10:50 AM

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yeah, you can find bulk powder from China factory that's really cheap. I bet those sold are mostly repackaged and bottled up from China.


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post Sep 7 2020, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(Death Wings @ Sep 7 2020, 10:50 AM)
yeah, you can find bulk powder from China factory that's really cheap. I bet those sold are mostly repackaged and bottled up from China.
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Yup that's why I don't mind paying 100-200rm if they really used the china ones and repackaged for my convenience considering it's 8-12 weeks cycle. Cheaper than whey protein 🤣
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post Sep 7 2020, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(Axelredan @ Sep 7 2020, 10:20 AM)
Don't think sarms are supposed to be that expensive anyways? Considering how much cheaper they are in alibaba
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Well unless you actually send it to an independent test lab to actually verify, how would you know for sure? you might be getting a prohormone for all you know. At the end of the day its leap of faith. I've read plenty of shit on reddit where people taking the same compound from the same sauce, not everyone will have the same reaction. And for your first cycle you're immediately starting with the stronger sarm instead of milder (i.e. Ostarine).

so either

take cheap stuff and potentially f*ck up yourself
take expensive stuff and still potentially f*cking up yourself too.

choice is yours lol.


My advice, try not to cheap-out on shit that you're gonna risk your health for. Try compare the price with overseas brands (Science-Bio or something that's popular in America) and make your decision.

I assume you won't even bother doing bloods and preparing some Nolva/clomids for PCT tongue.gif


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post Sep 8 2020, 02:49 AM

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QUOTE(axtray @ Sep 7 2020, 09:25 PM)
Well unless you actually send it to an independent test lab to actually verify, how would you know for sure? you might be getting a prohormone for all you know. At the end of the day its leap of faith. I've read plenty of shit on reddit where people taking the same compound from the same sauce, not everyone will have the same reaction. And for your first cycle you're immediately starting with the stronger sarm instead of milder (i.e. Ostarine).

so either

take cheap stuff and potentially f*ck up yourself
take expensive stuff and still potentially f*cking up yourself too.

choice is yours lol.
My advice, try not to cheap-out on shit that you're gonna risk your health for. Try compare the price with overseas brands (Science-Bio or something that's popular in America) and make your decision.

I assume you won't even bother doing bloods and preparing some Nolva/clomids for PCT  tongue.gif
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I added photos and 2 of my compound lifts to my topic. 100% natty obviously. No gym for entire covid season until gyms re-opened and came back and got my strength back up to where it previously was in about a month. 😋

My diet is subpar 1800-2000 calories. Save money on food too🤣. 60-80g protein consistently though.

Anyways I'd rather not waste my time with ostarine as I want to recomp with something potent without going the steroids route (My prostate is important to me 🤣). Will probably stick to 1800-2000 calories. RAD140 is perfect for my goals and so is LGD. Preferably 8 weeks to avoid too long suppression since no test base.

Don't wanna take cheap stuff just that, that's what is in shopee lol. Ostarine, test, dbol are cheaper 🤣. Also lowkey hoping to find a reliable source. Also how do I order the overseas ones to malaysia like the science-bio you mentioned?

Definitely will do PCT 100%, and if I get sides I'll half my dosages. As for bloodwork, I really want to do it but I'm worried it'll be expensive in private.

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post Sep 8 2020, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(Axelredan @ Sep 8 2020, 02:49 AM)
I added photos and 2 of my compound lifts to my topic. 100% natty obviously. No gym for entire covid season until gyms re-opened and came back and got my strength back up to where it previously was in about a month. 😋

My diet is subpar 1800-2000 calories. Save money on food too🤣. 60-80g protein consistently though.

Anyways I'd rather not waste my time with ostarine as I want to recomp with something potent without going the steroids route (My prostate is important to me 🤣). Will probably stick to 1800-2000 calories. RAD140 is perfect for my goals and so is LGD. Preferably 8 weeks to avoid too long suppression since no test base.

Don't wanna take cheap stuff just that, that's what is in shopee lol. Ostarine, test, dbol are cheaper 🤣. Also lowkey hoping to find a reliable source. Also how do I order the overseas ones to malaysia like the science-bio you mentioned?

Definitely will do PCT 100%, and if I get sides I'll half my dosages. As for bloodwork, I really want to do it but I'm worried it'll be expensive in private.
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Dude. How long have you been training? At your current stats i don't think you should be messing around with PEDs, especially something that will affect your hormone levels. You're still young at 22 and your growth plates are not even properly closed/settled yet. Your natural hormones are still at it's peak and you should make full use of it instead of relying on SARMs.

You can go to all of the forums and the veterans will probably say the same things that I'm gonna say below

1) Why are you even skimping on food? seriously? PEDs will only get you so far but if you don't fuel your body properly, you'll get no where.
2) Im suggesting a milder compound simply to see how the body will react. RAD and LGD from what I read is strong as hell. You'll definitely tank your T levels pretty damn fast, especially with your current nutrition and training which is at the moment pretty subpar (sorry, honest opinion)
3) Focus on your nutrition first. Actual foods and supplement second. Don't skimp money on that.
4) I'd focus on getting up to certain strength level for the big lifts (bench press, deadlift, squat and OHP). Maybe 4chan's 1/2/3/4 for 5 reps? Then maybe you can focus on hypertrophy.
5) If you don't get your nutrition and training right, you'll most likely to lose all of the gains you made in those 8 planned weeks (yes even tho on PCT) and be back at square one, with potentially lowered test levels etc.

For the Science Bio, maybe you can google for their website. Remember tho it's still leap of faith. Our resident juice expert, Armesh will probably say just skip the SARMs and go straight for the juice. lol

This post has been edited by axtray: Sep 8 2020, 01:35 PM
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post Sep 9 2020, 12:45 AM

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QUOTE(axtray @ Sep 8 2020, 01:31 PM)
Dude. How long have you been training? At your current stats i don't think you should be messing around with PEDs... 
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My growth plates are closed 100% since I haven't grown single cm since 16. Consistently been training about 2 years back when I was 17. Since then uni started, so on-off for years. Ah when I said skimping I meant I'm on 400-500 calorie deficit. And I use the "if it fits my macros" approach with food hence why I said it's subpar. Student life 🤷🏻‍♂️. Just gain-taining slowly. My training is decent though tbh just upper-lower split. 20 sets per muscle/week. My progress is alright, just that my goals are high. And nah I'd prefer to stay away from steroids as much as I can simply cuz of the higher side effect profile. sciencebio is a little too expensive I feel. The powder is good but I'm not sure how to suspend. Thinking of the option below. More expensive than the shopee ones but should be legit as it's mmc?

https://www.musclemaniaclub.net/SARMS-Matri...s-R-140-RAD-140



This post has been edited by Axelredan: Sep 9 2020, 12:56 AM
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post Sep 9 2020, 01:03 AM

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QUOTE(Axelredan @ Sep 9 2020, 12:45 AM)
My growth plates are closed 100% since I haven't grown single cm since 16. Consistently been training about 2 years back when I was 17. Since then uni started, so on-off for years. Ah when I said skimping I meant I'm on 400-500 calorie deficit. And I use the "if it fits my macros" approach with food hence why I said it's subpar. Student life 🤷🏻‍♂️. Just gain-taining slowly. My training is decent though tbh just upper-lower split. 20 sets per muscle/week. My progress is alright, just that my goals are high. And nah I'd prefer to stay away from steroids as much as I can simply cuz of the higher side effect profile. sciencebio is a little too expensive I feel. The powder is good but I'm not sure how to suspend. Thinking of the option below. More expensive than the shopee ones but should be legit as it's mmc?

https://www.musclemaniaclub.net/SARMS-Matri...s-R-140-RAD-140
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All the best man. If you decided to hop on it, theres this saying the real battle starts after the cycle ends to keep as much of the gains you got. Maybe you can share your progress since at my age, im pretty damn interested on trying it as well. But maybe after 2-3 more years.

On the stuff if youre planning to get on shopee, i cant advice much since from the reddit im reading, most are from us, uk eur and aussies. The only potential uk brand being sold here is bioscience if im not mistaken.

Edit : i didnt even realize mmc is now selling sarms openly. I know they were selling prohormones last time but it quickly disappeared from the listing. You can give it a shot and update us on how it goes tongue.gif

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post Sep 9 2020, 02:22 AM

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QUOTE(axtray @ Sep 9 2020, 01:03 AM)
All the best man. If you decided to hop on it, theres this saying the real battle starts after the cycle ends to keep as much of the gains you got. Maybe you can share your progress since at my age, im pretty damn interested on trying it as well. But maybe after 2-3 more years.

On the stuff if youre planning to get on shopee, i cant advice much since from the reddit im reading, most are from us, uk eur and aussies. The only potential uk brand being sold here is bioscience if im not mistaken.

Edit : i didnt even realize mmc is now selling sarms openly. I know they were selling prohormones last time but it quickly disappeared from the listing. You can give it a shot and update us on how it goes tongue.gif
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Sure thanks for the advices though. One thing I wanted to ask is: do you know how much bloodwork costs here?
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QUOTE(Axelredan @ Sep 9 2020, 02:22 AM)
Sure thanks for the advices though. One thing I wanted to ask is: do you know how much bloodwork costs here?
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my usual blood and urine test cost around 150-200 iirc. But it doesn't include hormone/testosterone profile.

However in your case since you'll need to include the hormone profile it's gonna be more i guess. Make sure that the hormone profile includes the LH, FSH, DHT, Free test and your total test level.

Any clinic will do this, and they'll send it to some lab. Maybe you can go to a specialist hospital or even google for a specialize hormone clinic.

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QUOTE(axtray @ Sep 9 2020, 01:30 PM)
my usual blood and urine test cost around 150-200 iirc. But it doesn't include hormone/testosterone profile.

However in your case since you'll need to include the hormone profile it's gonna be more i guess. Make sure that the hormone profile includes the LH, FSH, DHT, Free test and your total test level.

Any clinic will do this, and they'll send it to some lab. Maybe you can go to a specialist hospital or even google for a specialize hormone clinic.
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Wow not cheap
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post Sep 9 2020, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(Axelredan @ Sep 9 2020, 01:48 PM)
Wow not cheap
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Well thats the price you'll have to pay to use PEDs thatll affect your hormones.

And its recommended for you to do it before and after cycle to gauge how well your body tolerated the compound and how high dose of nolva/clomid you'll need for PCT. Some will be lucky to get away without having to do PCT tho

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I wouldn't try Bioscience tho. Their website is made up of stock images lol.

Off topic, are we allowed to discuss PEDs?

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QUOTE(Miracles @ Sep 9 2020, 08:19 PM)
I wouldn't try Bioscience tho. Their website is made up of stock images lol.

Off topic, are we allowed to discuss PEDs?
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I think he meant science.bio not bioscience. Yeah sure no problem. Discussion is good
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funny no such entity known as "Luis Scheering Pharmaceuticals GmbH" exists, either in Wedding-Berlin or Switzerland or the entirety of google for that matter. And their facebook just got scrubbed.

Theres AG Schering, Bayer-Schering.


One cant be too careful in stuff like these. At best, you get underdosed. At worst, you get Mast/T.prop in your expensive synth's.
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QUOTE(ieatchickens @ Sep 10 2020, 07:19 AM)
funny no such entity known as "Luis Scheering Pharmaceuticals GmbH" exists, either in Wedding-Berlin or Switzerland or the entirety of google for that matter. And their facebook just got scrubbed.

Theres AG Schering, Bayer-Schering. 
One cant be too careful in stuff like these. At best, you get underdosed. At worst, you get Mast/T.prop in your expensive synth's.
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Yup agreed. And yeah that's odd. I guess no cheap 90rm Sven Pharma for me lol. What about alpha laboratories? Found anything about that? I'm thinking of getting the Matrixlabs RAD140 from MMC though (link above in my other replies). Science.bio is too expensive and shipping might take 2-3 weeks+. The cost/safety ratio is important to me since I'm just a student so I wouldn't put my budget above 250rm for an 8 weeks cycle either.

This post has been edited by Axelredan: Sep 10 2020, 07:43 PM
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QUOTE(Axelredan @ Sep 8 2020, 02:49 AM)
I added photos and 2 of my compound lifts to my topic. 100% natty obviously. No gym for entire covid season until gyms re-opened and came back and got my strength back up to where it previously was in about a month. 😋

My diet is subpar 1800-2000 calories. Save money on food too🤣. 60-80g protein consistently though.

Anyways I'd rather not waste my time with ostarine as I want to recomp with something potent without going the steroids route (My prostate is important to me 🤣). Will probably stick to 1800-2000 calories. RAD140 is perfect for my goals and so is LGD. Preferably 8 weeks to avoid too long suppression since no test base.

Don't wanna take cheap stuff just that, that's what is in shopee lol. Ostarine, test, dbol are cheaper 🤣. Also lowkey hoping to find a reliable source. Also how do I order the overseas ones to malaysia like the science-bio you mentioned?

Definitely will do PCT 100%, and if I get sides I'll half my dosages. As for bloodwork, I really want to do it but I'm worried it'll be expensive in private.
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QUOTE(Axelredan @ Sep 8 2020, 02:49 AM)
I added photos and 2 of my compound lifts to my topic. 100% natty obviously. No gym for entire covid season until gyms re-opened and came back and got my strength back up to where it previously was in about a month. 😋

My diet is subpar 1800-2000 calories. Save money on food too🤣. 60-80g protein consistently though.

Anyways I'd rather not waste my time with ostarine as I want to recomp with something potent without going the steroids route (My prostate is important to me 🤣). Will probably stick to 1800-2000 calories. RAD140 is perfect for my goals and so is LGD. Preferably 8 weeks to avoid too long suppression since no test base.

Don't wanna take cheap stuff just that, that's what is in shopee lol. Ostarine, test, dbol are cheaper 🤣. Also lowkey hoping to find a reliable source. Also how do I order the overseas ones to malaysia like the science-bio you mentioned?

Definitely will do PCT 100%, and if I get sides I'll half my dosages. As for bloodwork, I really want to do it but I'm worried it'll be expensive in private.
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I've ordered my Rad140 from Chemyo, a really reliable source from US with many good reviews on sarmssourcetalk reddit.

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