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TSsgpdsmss
post Sep 6 2020, 04:46 PM, updated 6y ago

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hi ....

tank 1..
joven heater tank leakage ...still can repair? or must change new tank?
current shocking when touch the water tab on off during shower...
after that this heater no use anymore ..
very danger ...
should install elcb?

tank 2
another tank ....the circle part ..what happened to the copper pipe? will it be broken and water leak out soon ?


both tanks...any comment and suggestion?

thanks ...


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kk131
post Sep 6 2020, 04:53 PM

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Looks like you have dissimilar metal galvanic corrosion, copper/galvanised steel - the galvanised fittings will corrode preferentially.
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post Sep 6 2020, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(kk131 @ Sep 6 2020, 04:53 PM)
Looks like you have dissimilar metal galvanic corrosion, copper/galvanised steel  - the galvanised fittings will corrode preferentially.
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1st tank or 2nd tank that you referring?


both tanks
installation done by the joven technician...

thanks ..
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post Sep 6 2020, 05:17 PM

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Something like this? https://www.centralvahomeinspections.com/wa...vanic-corrosion
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post Sep 7 2020, 03:16 AM

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QUOTE(sgpdsmss @ Sep 6 2020, 04:46 PM)
hi ....

tank 1..
joven heater tank leakage ...still can repair? or must change new tank?
current shocking when touch the water tab on off during shower...
after that this heater no use anymore ..
very danger ...
should install elcb?

tank 2
another tank ....the circle part ..what happened to the copper pipe? will it be broken and water leak out soon ?
both tanks...any comment and suggestion?

thanks ...
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means got electricity leakage but not enough to kill you yet
so best to replace it and junk the old one (unless competently restored but usually not cost effective to repair)
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post Sep 7 2020, 08:13 AM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Sep 7 2020, 03:16 AM)
means got electricity leakage but not enough to kill you yet
so best to replace it and junk the old one (unless competently restored but usually not cost effective to repair)
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yes ..very lucky n lucky ...
yes ..planing to replace the tank ..

now new model come with isolation barrier..isnt can prevent electricity leakage ?


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blanket84
post Sep 7 2020, 08:49 AM

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How old is you tank?

No I’m worried. Should I proceed with buying joven storage heater tank or should I look for other brand? hmm.gif
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post Sep 7 2020, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Sep 7 2020, 08:49 AM)
How old is you tank?

No I’m worried. Should I proceed with buying joven storage heater tank or should I look for other brand? hmm.gif
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about 6 years old ...heating element changed 1 time b4...

or you can try solar heater ?
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post Sep 7 2020, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(sgpdsmss @ Sep 7 2020, 10:15 AM)
about 6 years old ...heating element changed 1 time b4...

or you can try solar heater ?
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That bad the quality? hmm.gif

Solar isn’t an option. Out of budget. I’m going with storage but haven’t decided on which brand to use.
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post Sep 7 2020, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Sep 7 2020, 01:13 PM)
That bad the quality? hmm.gif

Solar isn’t an option. Out of budget. I’m going with storage but haven’t decided on which brand to use.
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some people use for many years without problem ...

why not instant water heater ?
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post Sep 7 2020, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(sgpdsmss @ Sep 7 2020, 08:13 AM)
yes ..very lucky n lucky ...
yes ..planing to replace the tank ..

now new model come with isolation barrier..isnt can prevent electricity leakage ?
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It should be isolated from the design (i.e. non conductive hose/plastic part for storage WH).

Electricity leakage best prevented by installing a 10mA RCD for the WH circuit.

Example in https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=98013150 (the ABB one)

What this 10mA RCD do is like a very detailed accountant, whatever current in must balance current return out.
If current kena songlap more than acceptable value of 10mA, shut down whole thing because songlap means the current is leaking somewhere (typically thru the poor fella taking bath). Little bit of leakage at 10mA or so will not kill a person but it will trigger the 10mA RCD to trip. You should get one from a reputable brand (ABB Hager Schneider).
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post Sep 7 2020, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(sgpdsmss @ Sep 7 2020, 01:21 PM)
some people use for many years without problem ...

why not instant water heater ?
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Purely because of aesthetic reason.

Instant water heater looks out of place in the bathroom.
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post Sep 7 2020, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Sep 7 2020, 02:30 PM)
It should be isolated from the design (i.e. non conductive hose/plastic part for storage WH).

Electricity leakage best prevented by installing a 10mA RCD for the WH circuit.

Example in https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=98013150 (the ABB one)

What this 10mA RCD do is like a very detailed accountant, whatever current in must balance current return out.
If current kena songlap more than acceptable value of 10mA, shut down whole thing because songlap means the current is leaking somewhere (typically thru the poor fella taking bath). Little bit of leakage at 10mA or so will not kill a person but it will trigger the 10mA RCD to trip. You should get one from a reputable brand (ABB Hager Schneider).
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yes...the developer didnt install the rcd initiall...the wireman also didnt triggered about rcd...
now change new tank need to add 10mA rcd...
to prevent same incident happened again ...

QUOTE(blanket84 @ Sep 7 2020, 03:05 PM)
Purely because of aesthetic reason.

Instant water heater looks out of place in the bathroom.
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so the only way is storage tank heater...

 

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