Korean felt our spm English no standard, Too easy
Korean felt our spm English no standard, Too easy
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Aug 21 2020, 03:18 AM, updated 6y ago
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I did their English SAT before. Surprisingly hard!
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Aug 21 2020, 03:21 AM
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how many koreans can speak English again? BlueLion11, new in IT, and 60 others liked this post
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Aug 21 2020, 03:24 AM
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nice bait........
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Aug 21 2020, 03:44 AM
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too easy
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Aug 21 2020, 03:44 AM
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Raikkonen you agree? Raikkonen liked this post
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Aug 21 2020, 03:47 AM
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bereev Making her into a Malaysian Chinese girl can lah can lah? This post has been edited by Milupa: Aug 21 2020, 03:49 AM kkk8787 liked this post
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Aug 21 2020, 03:50 AM
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Koreans in general speak and write horrible English.
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Aug 21 2020, 03:53 AM
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But can they speak proper english though? Ever heard korean speaks english? They sound like they have cock in their mouth. BlueLion11, YamiBear, and 19 others liked this post
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Aug 21 2020, 03:58 AM
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Malaysia = manglish
Korea = konglish? kornglish? |
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Aug 21 2020, 03:58 AM
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Aug 21 2020, 04:00 AM
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SPM BM komponen sastera read like 10 novels
SPM English literature read comic book Renunglah This post has been edited by KLthinker91: Aug 21 2020, 04:01 AM |
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Aug 21 2020, 04:05 AM
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QUOTE(Daniel Joseph @ Aug 21 2020, 03:53 AM) But can they speak proper english though? The thing is that Koreans have tough English exams but all they do is memorize and regurgitate so they may not be fluent.Ever heard korean speaks english? They sound like they have cock in their mouth. On the other hand, Malaysians memorize and regurgitate for easy English exams and is still not fluent. Don't be too proud. |
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Aug 21 2020, 04:11 AM
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QUOTE(ReoAyanami @ Aug 21 2020, 04:05 AM) The thing is that Koreans have tough English exams but all they do is memorize and regurgitate so they may not be fluent. I’m not too proud because all these managers and vendors at my workplace from korea cannot even understand simple written english.On the other hand, Malaysians memorize and regurgitate for easy English exams and is still not fluent. Don't be too proud. If their english exams are harder than us why can’t they even understand? They can’t converse well in english, it’s okay I will write in english. They still can’t fucking understand. Working with them for 4 years now It seems that they’re the one that is too proud. Korea this great, korea that great. I’m not proud, just wondering. porselinaheart, totorohui10, and 2 others liked this post
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Aug 21 2020, 04:22 AM
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Our SPM no standard is true la, but its bout efective learning itself not memorizing the words. Our SPM based on O level format Lord Tiki Mick and imin liked this post
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Aug 21 2020, 04:32 AM
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QUOTE(zetshield21 @ Aug 21 2020, 04:22 AM) Our SPM no standard is true la, but its bout efective learning itself not memorizing the words. Our SPM based on O level format Memorising is first step to learningThat's one thing Chinese schools got right Our problem is that our Govt keeps yakking about kritis dan kreatif when we can't even accomplish step one (and they're happy to keep it that way because memorising doesn't create opportunity for songlap) |
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Aug 21 2020, 04:48 AM
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QUOTE(Daniel Joseph @ Aug 21 2020, 03:53 AM) But can they speak proper english though? Ever heard korean speaks english? They sound like they have cock in their mouth. dickybird and Daniel Joseph liked this post
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Aug 21 2020, 04:50 AM
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Aug 21 2020, 04:51 AM
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Lol our local English close eye can get A1/A+.
If there is an unfailable subject, it’s English. You will know if a person is truly dumb or not by seeing if they get anything less than an A in English . |
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Aug 21 2020, 04:53 AM
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Nope. Their english are worse than Malaysians.
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Aug 21 2020, 05:05 AM
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Aug 21 2020, 05:51 AM
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QUOTE(Username is for the weak @ Aug 21 2020, 05:05 AM) lol |
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Aug 21 2020, 06:13 AM
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so easy
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Aug 21 2020, 06:14 AM
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Why must we care about Korean lol
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Aug 21 2020, 06:15 AM
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QUOTE(Daniel Joseph @ Aug 21 2020, 03:53 AM) But can they speak proper english though? If I remember correctly they even have plastic surgery on their kid's tounge so that they will "sound better speaking english"Ever heard korean speaks english? They sound like they have cock in their mouth. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/as...sh-5361932.html |
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Aug 21 2020, 06:24 AM
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Aug 21 2020, 06:15 AM) If I remember correctly they even have plastic surgery on their kid's tounge so that they will "sound better speaking english" Dafuq lolhttps://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/as...sh-5361932.html |
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Aug 21 2020, 06:25 AM
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TOIEC and SPM are at the same level? I don't know because only go to school until standard 6. Parents with no money have to find a job myself.
Still, I can understand, read, write, and speak basic English. In fact, I thing any Malaysian 40s and below also the same. 3 or more classes per week for 11 years mandatory. 🤭 |
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Aug 21 2020, 06:25 AM
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Aug 21 2020, 06:15 AM) If I remember correctly they even have plastic surgery on their kid's tounge so that they will "sound better speaking english" even language also want plastic wtfhttps://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/as...sh-5361932.html |
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Aug 21 2020, 07:31 AM
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Aug 21 2020, 06:15 AM) If I remember correctly they even have plastic surgery on their kid's tounge so that they will "sound better speaking english" Wow! I did not know about this. Maybe they send their kid for surgery to cut that cock in their mouth hence improving their pronunciation. Hahahahttps://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/as...sh-5361932.html |
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Aug 21 2020, 07:31 AM
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bodoh SPM = O level
SAT= A level so stupid la strawberryyy |
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Aug 21 2020, 07:34 AM
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Aug 21 2020, 07:41 AM
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QUOTE(knives. @ Aug 21 2020, 04:51 AM) Lol our local English close eye can get A1/A+. you'd be surprised how many failed itIf there is an unfailable subject, it’s English. You will know if a person is truly dumb or not by seeing if they get anything less than an A in English . i was about to say people say always say how easy our SPM english is yet so many failed or cannot even score it thn came out of school can't even speak proper english for me it is easy but i also saw many struggle with it |
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Aug 21 2020, 07:45 AM
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isn't it obvious malaysians are better at english because some of us actually use it on a daily basis.
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Aug 21 2020, 07:48 AM
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Aug 21 2020, 07:55 AM
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bro SAT is A level
SPM is O level what are you on???? trying to compare wall of brick to a brick house? QUOTE(MR_alien @ Aug 21 2020, 07:41 AM) you'd be surprised how many failed it last time i took SPM yeah, some of my classmate wrote in BM out of desperation to finish the exami was about to say people say always say how easy our SPM english is yet so many failed or cannot even score it thn came out of school can't even speak proper english for me it is easy but i also saw many struggle with it at least they passed with E but god know what they were doing to get that grade |
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Aug 21 2020, 08:12 AM
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Ask her to try ktard England, even harder than Cambridge O level!
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Aug 21 2020, 08:16 AM
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Ts fails so hard at this.
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Aug 21 2020, 08:22 AM
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And ever heard a korean try to speak english while being angry.
Not a single proper word came out, you can only hear they made a cock sucking sound. |
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Aug 21 2020, 08:25 AM
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kpop to arah kuasa
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Aug 21 2020, 08:30 AM
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Why are we comparing who's better than who at speaking penjajah language lol
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Aug 21 2020, 08:34 AM
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Aug 21 2020, 08:36 AM
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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Aug 21 2020, 04:32 AM) Memorising is first step to learning Well, the Western style is to understand the concept, not to memorize first.That's one thing Chinese schools got right Our problem is that our Govt keeps yakking about kritis dan kreatif when we can't even accomplish step one (and they're happy to keep it that way because memorising doesn't create opportunity for songlap) |
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Aug 21 2020, 08:37 AM
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Aug 21 2020, 08:39 AM
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Aug 21 2020, 08:46 AM
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Often watch Running Man with my wife. The only cast who can speak proper English is Kim Jong Kook and it is only because he used to live in the USA. Others all sampah level having hard time trying to converse with the likes of Tom Cruise and Ryan Reynolds.
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Aug 21 2020, 08:49 AM
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Aug 21 2020, 08:51 AM
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What arh the Korean moi speak Engrand sound like Malaysia amoi?
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Aug 21 2020, 08:52 AM
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test 100% but cant speak also useless la...language is for communication....
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Aug 21 2020, 08:54 AM
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Koreans and Japanese are the worst at English
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Aug 21 2020, 09:02 AM
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Aug 21 2020, 09:07 AM
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Aug 21 2020, 09:14 AM
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Typical Malaysiqn students. Doesn't matter if 5 A or 12A..... If little bit 'out of syllabus' terus turn to shit. Only good at memorising stuff and vomit back out.
So no surprise here,! |
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Aug 21 2020, 09:15 AM
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Korean and English dont go in same sentence
Their general public has shitty spoken English |
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Aug 21 2020, 09:17 AM
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majority of koreans still suck in speaking English tho
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Aug 21 2020, 09:19 AM
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korean english exam so susah
no wonder their english bad |
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Aug 21 2020, 09:20 AM
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we got english 1119
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Aug 21 2020, 09:26 AM
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Else why you think why out Malaysian education system uturn teaching science and math in English?????
The teachers also can't take it |
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Aug 21 2020, 09:26 AM
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That is a bait video .... many bites it
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Aug 21 2020, 09:33 AM
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Aug 21 2020, 09:33 AM
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Aug 21 2020, 09:39 AM
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Er, they're english exam might be very tough. But compare to the usage of English in their daily life it's quite low compare to most of us here in Msia as they speak Korean at work & with each other most of the time. Due to this they're not that confident to converse in English, true story shared by my Korean language teacher. This post has been edited by Cloudx: Aug 21 2020, 09:40 AM Kuncilagi liked this post
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Aug 21 2020, 09:39 AM
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QUOTE(R0ADTAX @ Aug 21 2020, 07:55 AM) last time i took SPM yeah, some of my classmate wrote in BM out of desperation to finish the exam if our english is "easy"at least they passed with E but god know what they were doing to get that grade thn there wouldn't be so much case of candidate saying "boleh cakap melayu tak or asking the interviewer can speak chinese or not" in interview being said in /k/ i saw our student struggle to even fill in the blanks what more asking them to write an essay |
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Aug 21 2020, 09:46 AM
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8:17 guy asking relevant question.
Why korea exam so hard. But speaking berterabur? |
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Aug 21 2020, 09:47 AM
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one thing is their listening skills not as good as ours.
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Aug 21 2020, 09:52 AM
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QUOTE(Majlis Bandaraya Puchong @ Aug 21 2020, 03:18 AM) Damn why the spm ques mcm retarded je karirzies liked this post
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Aug 21 2020, 09:56 AM
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korean english good? thats the biggest joke of the century man, those who said korean english good obviously never talked to korean in english before
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Aug 21 2020, 10:02 AM
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Aug 21 2020, 10:05 AM
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Exam harder got use? All is memorising only. After exam all forget gone already. Here in malaysia almost everyone can speak basic english even those without spm. I dont think average korean even understand english. Kuncilagi liked this post
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Aug 21 2020, 10:07 AM
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malaysian write well but speak horrible
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Aug 21 2020, 10:08 AM
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People should really stop pronouncing today as thudayyy, thodayyyyy, tudayyyy.
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Aug 21 2020, 10:21 AM
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Aug 21 2020, 10:26 AM
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LOL at some people actually trying to justify that Korean has better English than us.
We can all speak English,be it broken or not but enough for basic communication. Korean on the other hand, maybe can write well but conversation-wise no. |
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Aug 21 2020, 10:27 AM
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ofcourse SAT harder. its different level of compentency test compare to SPM
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Aug 21 2020, 10:39 AM
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QUOTE(aeonbig @ Aug 21 2020, 10:26 AM) LOL at some people actually trying to justify that Korean has better English than us. I doubt they can write well too.We can all speak English,be it broken or not but enough for basic communication. Korean on the other hand, maybe can write well but conversation-wise no. Actually english angmoh find korean punya english exam difficult too (you can find the videos in youtube). But korean students admitted that they were trained to answer those exam questions at schools -- in other words, the difficult questions become less difficult if you were trained for years to answer them, but can they really converse or write in english? not really. |
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Aug 21 2020, 10:42 AM
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Most of them can write essay but can’t speak fluently.
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Aug 21 2020, 10:47 AM
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Their university entrance exam is strict
Should be top quality graduates but they are not using english as medium of teaching in university (?) |
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Aug 21 2020, 10:54 AM
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never once met a korean that can speak comprehensible english. Most worst than kindergarten level
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Aug 21 2020, 10:58 AM
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you should know 10A in SPM doesn't mean you have perfect english, because it covers other subjects too..
you want a fair comparison, take this TOEIC to our Muet band 6 student then we talk... sembang kencang lar korean, padahal what is the country English proficiency median score? |
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Aug 21 2020, 11:01 AM
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can take exam =/= can use it proficiently
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Aug 21 2020, 11:03 AM
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Lol..certainly many people still don't really know how koreans' english level are. Generally, they are not only horrible at speaking, they also terrible at speaking, listening and writing. Malaysians' english level are way way better in every aspect. Not that Malaysians are that good, many are terrible also but in average we are quite okay. Just check the english proficiency ranking. At one point we even surpassed Singapore as no.1 in Asia, but now we dropped behind Singapore and Philippine.
It doesn't matter if their test are harder, but the average score for the test also much2 lower than our SPM despite they being so studious(to the point only sleep 3,4 hours only and spent the rest of time studying) and they took only few subjects compare to us. By the way, i've seen their english SAT and for me it's not really more difficult, they just trying to make it more 'fancy' with their sentences and questions. For me it's not really necessary, and it's not correct way to educate people to learn english so that might explain why their comprehension level are bad. I've taken IELTS before, and the difficulty level and how they construct the questions are slightly better, but it's more similar to our SPM than Korean english SAT. |
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Aug 21 2020, 11:05 AM
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tula..if u cant score in SPM....and u are rubbish
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Aug 21 2020, 11:08 AM
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from the 1st question, korean one more easy. malaysian one tricky.
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Aug 21 2020, 11:10 AM
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Sapa suruh makan kimchi bnyak sngat. Try makan nasi lemak. Knfirm esok boleh cakap english fluent
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QUOTE(aeonbig @ Aug 21 2020, 10:26 AM) LOL at some people actually trying to justify that Korean has better English than us. dats why, even our sjkc cacat england also much much better than their england, they cant even speak a sentence in englishWe can all speak English,be it broken or not but enough for basic communication. Korean on the other hand, maybe can write well but conversation-wise no. |
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Aug 21 2020, 11:12 AM
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QUOTE(Sagiez @ Aug 21 2020, 11:03 AM) Lol..certainly many people still don't really know how koreans' english level are. Generally, they are not only horrible at speaking, they also terrible at speaking, listening and writing. Malaysians' english level are way way better in every aspect. Not that Malaysians are that good, many are terrible also but in average we are quite okay. Just check the english proficiency ranking. At one point we even surpassed Singapore as no.1 in Asia, but now we dropped behind Singapore and Philippine. On Average,if we are 7/10, Koreans are 1/10.It doesn't matter if their test are harder, but the average score for the test also much2 lower than our SPM despite they being so studious(to the point only sleep 3,4 hours only and spent the rest of time studying) and they took only few subjects compare to us. By the way, i've seen their english SAT and for me it's not really more difficult, they just trying to make it more 'fancy' with their sentences and questions. For me it's not really necessary, and it's not correct way to educate people to learn english so that might explain why their comprehension level are bad. I've taken IELTS before, and the difficulty level and how they construct the questions are slightly better, but it's more similar to our SPM than Korean english SAT. |
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QUOTE(UrbanGraduate @ Aug 21 2020, 03:21 AM) Same, our standards down the drain since 1980 when buttseks minister take over as Edu minister. Even chinese and malays speak english worse than their grandparents. Also write also worse than speak since can't cut and paste. 50% here in /k can be good example. |
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Aug 21 2020, 11:23 AM
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btw, korean high school system is until 19 years, equivalent to A-level / STPM, unlike mesia at 17 years.
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Their English exam is so hard that it became a pushing factor/discouragement for them to pick it up
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Aug 21 2020, 11:29 AM
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QUOTE(Daniel Joseph @ Aug 21 2020, 04:11 AM) I’m not too proud because all these managers and vendors at my workplace from korea cannot even understand simple written english. If every exam you study for is tough and there is very few English media around you, how well do you think you will learn English in their environment? Some YouTuber from UK has explained it before, it's not that they don't know English, it's just that they lack speaking practice and the confidence to speak it because they had a hard time learning it.If their english exams are harder than us why can’t they even understand? They can’t converse well in english, it’s okay I will write in english. They still can’t fucking understand. Working with them for 4 years now It seems that they’re the one that is too proud. Korea this great, korea that great. I’m not proud, just wondering. Just be considerate. Not every country is like Malaysia. P.S. I have met Koreans with fluent English so let's not generalize. This post has been edited by ReoAyanami: Aug 21 2020, 11:32 AM |
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QUOTE(aeonbig @ Aug 21 2020, 10:26 AM) LOL at some people actually trying to justify that Korean has better English than us. even makcik kampung can speak better English than Koreans/JapaneseWe can all speak English,be it broken or not but enough for basic communication. Korean on the other hand, maybe can write well but conversation-wise no. |
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Aug 21 2020, 11:31 AM
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The exam hard then why korean nationals speak horrible english?
Did the girl even know that lot of Koreans actually sent their kids to Malaysia to learn english as its affordable, good quality and lot of chances to practise it |
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QUOTE(ReoAyanami @ Aug 21 2020, 11:29 AM) If every exam you study for is tough and there is very few English media around you, how well do you think you will learn English in their environment? Some YouTuber from UK has explained it before, it's not that they don't know English, it's just that they lack speaking practice and the confidence to speak it because they had a hard time learning it. Then why they go make video kecam our engirsh exam low keras ? Just be considerate. Not every country is like Malaysia. P.S. I have met Korean with fluent English so let's not generalize. Later stpm educated band 6 hksgmy come whack them This post has been edited by arsenwagon: Aug 21 2020, 11:34 AM |
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beside my shop thr is a korean restaurant run by korean nationals, got chnged a few korean owners n staffs before, i think i met around 10 diff korean ppl since they opened
n not a single one of them can speak decent english or at least communicate well in basic english everytime they come we hav a hard time understnding wat they say, cannot pronounce words well n most of the time we just use hand or google the pic to communicate thr was a young korean guy that have decent english but his pronounciation is also very off n he can barely complete a sentence in english oso, most of the time just say one word oni, like if he wan to buy cable then he will just say "cable, cable?" instead of "u sell cable here?" |
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Aug 21 2020, 11:46 AM
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QUOTE(Milupa @ Aug 21 2020, 03:44 AM) Hard to say.My SPM format..long long time ago in a galaxy...🤣 Similar format as super unker bereev when he took his SPM 🤣 I think SPM are basics. Can always upgrade with other courses. If you went to serious english classes. Of course you'll speak better. I am fond of American english 😚 This post has been edited by Raikkonen: Aug 21 2020, 12:30 PM |
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QUOTE(Majlis Bandaraya Puchong @ Aug 21 2020, 03:18 AM) based on this video, we can see that Malaysia's English syllabus actually teaches you to comprehend and understand English. Korea's however is just made hard for the sake of being hard which in all honestly is pointless, stupid and typical syiok sendiri exam. Reminds me of an Enid Blyton children's book i read when i was a kid. The Enid Blyton Book Of Brownies. There is a land of clever ppl and everyone there speaks in rhyme. U speak in any other way = u r stupid and u get a nice spanking. Then everyday the smartest person will ask everyone a riddle, if u cannot answer it you're stupid and will kena spanking again. All the ppl in the land will answer the riddles with gibberish and they will get away with it. Those who questions the logic behind the riddle = u guessed it right.... spanking. Total syiok sendiri culture. Yenactiet liked this post
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i thought we our spm english got 1119 one
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Aug 21 2020, 12:16 PM
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Aug 21 2020, 12:30 PM
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QUOTE(arsenwagon @ Aug 21 2020, 11:49 AM) Y u lose to him didn't get band 8 for muet . Oh wai- No, I didn't have to apply for any local universities - because (and I will remember this for as long as I live - or at least until dementia decimates my hippocampal synapses) my Colombo Plan Commonwealth Scholarship award came in a thick A4 sized brown envelope on the eve of my final Biology (essay) paper of my STPM. To be honest, I almost didn't turn up for that paper because, well, I didn't need to - I was going to University to study medicine. But, being the stoic son of an Asian tiger mom, I turned up anyway, did what I had to do, and stepped out of the school hall like it was just another walk in the park.Btw did u apply for local U that time? Inb4 local U too low keras And no, I didn't fumble on the last paper: [attachmentid=10559049] So, no I didn't apply ... but, if I had, I would have applied for UM. Whether I'd get in or not, well, that's a question I'll never know the answer. |
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Aug 21 2020, 12:38 PM
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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Aug 21 2020, 12:30 PM) No, I didn't have to apply for any local universities - because (and I will remember this for as long as I live - or at least until dementia decimates my hippocampal synapses) my Colombo Plan Commonwealth Scholarship award came in a thick A4 sized brown envelope on the eve of my final Biology (essay) paper of my STPM. To be honest, I almost didn't turn up for that paper because, well, I didn't need to - I was going to University to study medicine. But, being the stoic son of an Asian tiger mom, I turned up anyway, did what I had to do, and stepped out of the school hall like it was just another walk in the park. wait, but it must have been a conditional offer right? They probably used your forecast results? And no, I didn't fumble on the last paper: [attachmentid=10559049] So, no I didn't apply ... but, if I had, I would have applied for UM. Whether I'd get in or not, well, that's a question I'll never know the answer. So Sydney U only needed 3 subjects maths physics and chemistry? |
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Aug 21 2020, 12:43 PM
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QUOTE(arsenwagon @ Aug 21 2020, 12:38 PM) wait, but it must have been a conditional offer right? They probably used your forecast results? Back in my days, that was the max you could take for the STPM. I'm a dinosaur, mate. That certificate is like more than 30 years old!So Sydney U only needed 3 subjects maths physics and chemistry? The offer was conditional on me securing the scholarship - what and how I did for the STPM was irrelevant to them, perhaps also because of this: [attachmentid=10559055] Raikkonen liked this post
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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Aug 21 2020, 04:32 AM) Memorising is first step to learning So more Chinese school graduates can speak English compared to national schools?That's one thing Chinese schools got right Our problem is that our Govt keeps yakking about kritis dan kreatif when we can't even accomplish step one (and they're happy to keep it that way because memorising doesn't create opportunity for songlap) |
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Aug 21 2020, 12:47 PM
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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Aug 21 2020, 12:43 PM) Back in my days, that was the max you could take for the STPM. I'm a dinosaur, mate. That certificate is like more than 30 years old! But you also took biology , means got 4 math +sci subjects in your stpm. The offer was conditional on me securing the scholarship - what and how I did for the STPM was irrelevant to them, perhaps also because of this: [attachmentid=10559055] Wah so last time spm so high keras can get u a seat in uni? Times have changed ... This post has been edited by arsenwagon: Aug 21 2020, 12:48 PM |
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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Aug 21 2020, 12:43 PM) Back in my days, that was the max you could take for the STPM. I'm a dinosaur, mate. That certificate is like more than 30 years old! All satu’s 😱The offer was conditional on me securing the scholarship - what and how I did for the STPM was irrelevant to them, perhaps also because of this: [attachmentid=10559055] |
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QUOTE(arsenwagon @ Aug 21 2020, 12:47 PM) But you also took biology , means got 4 math +sci subjects in your stpm. Our Malaysian education was highly regarded in the past. ASEAN scholars from Malaysia studying in Singapore were feared for their superior mathematics and science understanding. And I found that my education foundation in Malaysia was instrumental in helping me excel in my medical studies in Australia. Wah so last time spm so high keras can get u a seat in uni? Times have changed ... I don’t know what the situation is like today but back then, we wore the fact that we were Malaysian educated in the Malaysian school system like it was a badge of pride. |
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QUOTE(Lord Tiki Mick @ Aug 21 2020, 12:45 PM) yes in a way...very literal way. the memorizing method used in chinese school works... up to the point they converse. my experience talking to chinese school educated ppl, the one word i can put to it is literal. they don't understand the side meaning, puns, jokes, references ... nothing. so when conversing with them dont use fancy english, drop the bombastic words, go simple and the conversation will work. |
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Aug 21 2020, 01:01 PM
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QUOTE(Lord Tiki Mick @ Aug 21 2020, 12:45 PM) As a proportion of total student population? Measured by vocabulary? ProbablyIn fact it's quite likely more SJKC school graduates know more chinese words than SK school graduates know BM words, simply due to the stress placed on vocabulary by the SJKC system Note that I'm not extolling the complete mastery of a language by the SJKC system. For example one clear area they fail is in grammar, because the typical SJKC grad applies that big vocabulary in Chinese syntax, which is how we get the majority of Manglish and Singlish I'm just saying that memorisation is the first step of learning, and that the SK system already fails at this first point whereas the SJKC system doesn't. From there you can infer for yourself how effective our national education is. |
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Haha lelaki bodoh Tak boleh answer 😅
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Aug 21 2020, 01:09 PM
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their alphabet are different than us (hanguk-eo)..since we are more to bahasa malaysia which same with english (lingua franca) alphabet
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QUOTE(sk1l @ Aug 21 2020, 12:57 PM) yes in a way...very literal way. the memorizing method used in chinese school works... up to the point they converse. my experience talking to chinese school educated ppl, the one word i can put to it is literal. they don't understand the side meaning, puns, jokes, references ... nothing. so when conversing with them dont use fancy english, drop the bombastic words, go simple and the conversation will work. QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Aug 21 2020, 01:01 PM) As a proportion of total student population? Measured by vocabulary? Probably You can't say SK fails when most Malaysian can understands English and can speak English although most of them broken.In fact it's quite likely more SJKC school graduates know more chinese words than SK school graduates know BM words, simply due to the stress placed on vocabulary by the SJKC system Note that I'm not extolling the complete mastery of a language by the SJKC system. For example one clear area they fail is in grammar, because the typical SJKC grad applies that big vocabulary in Chinese syntax, which is how we get the majority of Manglish and Singlish I'm just saying that memorisation is the first step of learning, and that the SK system already fails at this first point whereas the SJKC system doesn't. From there you can infer for yourself how effective our national education is. |
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Easier test mean more meresian can become fresh grad, mean more meresian can become 20k tard, goodking ekonomy
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mai kong laosai wei
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IMO, it's not that it has no standard, it feels like the exam board here treats English as a language rather than a subject. And, it seems like the Korean exam board treats it as a subject...
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Aug 21 2020, 01:20 PM
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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Aug 21 2020, 12:43 PM) Back in my days, that was the max you could take for the STPM. I'm a dinosaur, mate. That certificate is like more than 30 years old! Wow~The offer was conditional on me securing the scholarship - what and how I did for the STPM was irrelevant to them, perhaps also because of this: [attachmentid=10559055] Respect; went overseas to further study? I think you're older than me 🤣 |
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Aug 21 2020, 01:24 PM
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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Aug 21 2020, 01:22 PM) I wouldn’t be surprised bro. I’m an oldfag. Old enough to get one of the last Colombo Plans on offer to Malaysians before they pulled the plug on that programme. Raikkonen liked this post
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Aug 21 2020, 01:25 PM
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QUOTE(James1983 @ Aug 21 2020, 12:49 PM) Yes. I am proud to be called a product of the SRK and SMK school system in Malaysia. Without that foundation, I wouldn’t be where I am today. akif93, ericangtzeann, and 2 others liked this post
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Aug 21 2020, 01:28 PM
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QUOTE(arsenwagon @ Aug 21 2020, 12:47 PM) But you also took biology , means got 4 math +sci subjects in your stpm. The scholarship board wasn’t keen on a flash in the pan performance. They were looking for consistency. From my SRP (I couldn’t find my certificate sadly), to the SPM and STPM (forecast results) and also the school report book and teachers’ testimonials. That’s what they wanted. Wah so last time spm so high keras can get u a seat in uni? Times have changed ... As it turned out, they were quite accurate in placing their faith in me - I didn’t flop my STPM which meant they didn’t have to withdrawal their scholarship offer. |
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Aug 21 2020, 01:29 PM
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QUOTE(Lord Tiki Mick @ Aug 21 2020, 01:11 PM) You can't say SK fails when most Malaysian can understands English and can speak English although most of them broken. chinese school english is not broken just lack of exposure and literal. u dont get to speak english to everyone in school and outside school unless you keluarpattern la.SK english is not broken but students who listen and learn properly gain, while those who play truant lose out big time. my time SK english teachers got cambridge qualification. some even go for master and other side courses funded by gov. i had 2 good indian teachers (cambridge), 1 good chinese teacher (cambridge+masters in english) and 1 good malay teacher over the years. the indian teachers were really free and easy, their spoken english enough to make you correct your own plus they forced students to participate in dialogues and scenarios. the chinese teacher was the technical 1. she stressed on this tense that tense so a lot of why do it like this why say it like that were answered. the malay chap was the youngest and a trainee but he brought his own ideas which were fresh and new for those of us used to the standard education module. |
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Aug 21 2020, 01:51 PM
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Well, atleast they understand and comprehend English better than most Malaysians.
But they can't speak. oof. Malaysian terbalik, boleh pronounce words, but die die have no idea on the English Literacy. |
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Aug 21 2020, 02:00 PM
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QUOTE(iSean @ Aug 21 2020, 01:52 PM) Well, atleast they understand and comprehend English better than most Malaysians. KEK, has you never met or worked with kolians before?But they can't speak. oof. Malaysian terbalik, boleh pronounce words, but die die have no idea on the English Literacy. Their koreanglish had a thick accents, you barely able to comprehend what they said. |
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Aug 21 2020, 02:07 PM
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QUOTE(iSean @ Aug 21 2020, 01:52 PM) Well, atleast they understand and comprehend English better than most Malaysians. i beg to differ. Our SPM level English paper is so easy yet the Korean girl had problems answering some very basic comprehension questions. She even questions the question lol like wtf ?But they can't speak. oof. Malaysian terbalik, boleh pronounce words, but die die have no idea on the English Literacy. Their Korean SAT English exam is not even testing your English proficiency. IMO you get more knowledge and understanding from our PMR English exam than their SAT. In the vid below, fast forward to 9:30 to view the explanation by Blimey. |
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QUOTE(msacras @ Aug 21 2020, 02:05 PM) KEK, has you never met or worked with kolians before? that's why I said they can understand what people are saying, yes, some of them have their Korean accent slang too thick for our understanding. Their koreanglish had a thick accents, you barely able to comprehend what they said. But then I have korean classmates in my Pre-University can speak English quite fine, side note, they went to international school locally in Malaysia for 3 years. I only met one actual Korean in my university engineering program, who's accent in Korean is extremely horrible that I can't even understand. But they have no issues understand the concepts explained in English at all. |
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then ask them to take muet for debate session and essay writing, spm english is ntg
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SPM?....child's play la...do STPM la sissy....
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QUOTE(Majlis Bandaraya Puchong @ Aug 21 2020, 03:18 AM) Good job brother for bagging this cute little Korean girl. Love her single eyelids. Raikkonen liked this post
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QUOTE(iSean @ Aug 21 2020, 02:14 PM) that's why I said they can understand what people are saying, yes, some of them have their Korean accent slang too thick for our understanding. u also noe hw to say the korean went to international school for 3 years, of course la he can speak wellBut then I have korean classmates in my Pre-University can speak English quite fine, side note, they went to international school locally in Malaysia for 3 years. I only met one actual Korean in my university engineering program, who's accent in Korean is extremely horrible that I can't even understand. But they have no issues understand the concepts explained in English at all. wat we are talking about is the average korean ppl out thr, not those working professionals working in big mnc's or whatsoever from my interaction wif real koreans also i found their english to be horrible, speaking cannot, n comprehension also most of them failed badly, ur case is u met koreans who are very educated n studied abroad, dats why the ones u met hav good english just make it simple la, now u go korea thr and u try to speak to their ppl thr in english ask for directions etc, u see how many can answer u |
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Aug 21 2020, 03:46 PM
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Their English education system is shit
Those score full mark still can't use English well. Also, TOEIC isn't hard at all. I got a full 990 and I wasn't even trying This post has been edited by focusrite: Aug 21 2020, 06:06 PM |
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so many /k triggered rilek la Raikkonen liked this post
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Aug 21 2020, 06:08 PM
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9,276 posts Joined: Jan 2005 From: KL. Best place in Malaysia. Nuff said |
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Aug 21 2020, 06:08 PM
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Aug 21 2020, 06:10 PM
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lol kalau dah nak downplaying malaysia tuh
education pun jadi padahal before this tak pernah ambik port pun not a single fuck given TS is really pretentious |
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Aug 21 2020, 06:13 PM
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they based it off on SPM level?
anyway i dont mind japanese also dont want to speak english just use a digital or human translator. good la, give others job as translators |
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Aug 21 2020, 06:16 PM
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9,276 posts Joined: Jan 2005 From: KL. Best place in Malaysia. Nuff said |
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Aug 21 2020, 06:20 PM
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Some kpop plotektor triggered and lipot me. Lol.
When cannot win argument, lipot them!;! Pandan betol! You know who you are. Lol. |
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Aug 21 2020, 06:23 PM
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Aug 21 2020, 06:16 PM) The tell tale sign is that our signs are usually either BM or BM + other language. Also our KM sign is not yellow check this out, it's in sin chew. but I understand no mandarin. https://www.sinchew.com.my/content/content_2079447.html |
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Aug 21 2020, 06:25 PM
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they only do it for the exams, after tat make exam result paper into aeroplane
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QUOTE(bronkos @ Aug 21 2020, 06:23 PM) check this out, it's in sin chew. but I understand no mandarin. Google translate kata fake sign.https://www.sinchew.com.my/content/content_2079447.html |
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Aug 21 2020, 06:40 PM
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Aug 21 2020, 07:33 PM
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y they speak like sinkie?
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Most like their English test no standard. Copy bulat bulat from other ppl thesis jer
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