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 Korean felt our spm English no standard, Too easy

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post Aug 21 2020, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(Milupa @ Aug 21 2020, 03:44 AM)
Raikkonen you agree? biggrin.gif
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Hard to say.

My SPM format..long long time ago in a galaxy...🤣

Similar format as super unker bereev when he took his SPM 🤣


I think SPM are basics.

Can always upgrade with other courses.

If you went to serious english classes.

Of course you'll speak better.

I am fond of American english 😚

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post Aug 21 2020, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(Majlis Bandaraya Puchong @ Aug 21 2020, 03:18 AM)
I did their English SAT before. Surprisingly hard!


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based on this video, we can see that Malaysia's English syllabus actually teaches you to comprehend and understand English. Korea's however is just made hard for the sake of being hard which in all honestly is pointless, stupid and typical syiok sendiri exam.

Reminds me of an Enid Blyton children's book i read when i was a kid. The Enid Blyton Book Of Brownies. There is a land of clever ppl and everyone there speaks in rhyme. U speak in any other way = u r stupid and u get a nice spanking. Then everyday the smartest person will ask everyone a riddle, if u cannot answer it you're stupid and will kena spanking again. All the ppl in the land will answer the riddles with gibberish and they will get away with it. Those who questions the logic behind the riddle = u guessed it right.... spanking. Total syiok sendiri culture.

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post Aug 21 2020, 12:10 PM

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i thought we our spm english got 1119 one
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post Aug 21 2020, 12:16 PM

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post Aug 21 2020, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(arsenwagon @ Aug 21 2020, 11:49 AM)
Y u lose to him didn't get band 8 for muet . Oh wai-

Btw did u apply for local U that time? Inb4 local U too low keras
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No, I didn't have to apply for any local universities - because (and I will remember this for as long as I live - or at least until dementia decimates my hippocampal synapses) my Colombo Plan Commonwealth Scholarship award came in a thick A4 sized brown envelope on the eve of my final Biology (essay) paper of my STPM. To be honest, I almost didn't turn up for that paper because, well, I didn't need to - I was going to University to study medicine. But, being the stoic son of an Asian tiger mom, I turned up anyway, did what I had to do, and stepped out of the school hall like it was just another walk in the park.

And no, I didn't fumble on the last paper:

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So, no I didn't apply ... but, if I had, I would have applied for UM.

Whether I'd get in or not, well, that's a question I'll never know the answer.
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post Aug 21 2020, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Aug 21 2020, 12:30 PM)
No, I didn't have to apply for any local universities - because (and I will remember this for as long as I live - or at least until dementia decimates my hippocampal synapses) my Colombo Plan Commonwealth Scholarship award came in a thick A4 sized brown envelope on the eve of my final Biology (essay) paper of my STPM. To be honest, I almost didn't turn up for that paper because, well, I didn't need to - I was going to University to study medicine. But, being the stoic son of an Asian tiger mom, I turned up anyway, did what I had to do, and stepped out of the school hall like it was just another walk in the park.

And no, I didn't fumble on the last paper:

[attachmentid=10559049]

So, no I didn't apply ... but, if I had, I would have applied for UM.

Whether I'd get in or not, well, that's a question I'll never know the answer.
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wait, but it must have been a conditional offer right? They probably used your forecast results?

So Sydney U only needed 3 subjects maths physics and chemistry?
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post Aug 21 2020, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(arsenwagon @ Aug 21 2020, 12:38 PM)
wait, but it must have been a conditional offer right? They probably used your forecast results?

So Sydney U only needed 3 subjects maths physics and chemistry?
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Back in my days, that was the max you could take for the STPM. I'm a dinosaur, mate. That certificate is like more than 30 years old!

The offer was conditional on me securing the scholarship - what and how I did for the STPM was irrelevant to them, perhaps also because of this:

[attachmentid=10559055]
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post Aug 21 2020, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Aug 21 2020, 04:32 AM)
Memorising is first step to learning

That's one thing Chinese schools got right

Our problem is that our Govt keeps yakking about kritis dan kreatif when we can't even accomplish step one (and they're happy to keep it that way because memorising doesn't create opportunity for songlap)
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So more Chinese school graduates can speak English compared to national schools?
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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Aug 21 2020, 12:43 PM)
Back in my days, that was the max you could take for the STPM. I'm a dinosaur, mate. That certificate is like more than 30 years old!

The offer was conditional on me securing the scholarship - what and how I did for the STPM was irrelevant to them, perhaps also because of this:

[attachmentid=10559055]
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But you also took biology , means got 4 math +sci subjects in your stpm.

Wah so last time spm so high keras can get u a seat in uni? Times have changed ...

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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Aug 21 2020, 12:43 PM)
Back in my days, that was the max you could take for the STPM. I'm a dinosaur, mate. That certificate is like more than 30 years old!

The offer was conditional on me securing the scholarship - what and how I did for the STPM was irrelevant to them, perhaps also because of this:

[attachmentid=10559055]
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post Aug 21 2020, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(arsenwagon @ Aug 21 2020, 12:47 PM)
But you also took biology , means got 4 math +sci subjects in your stpm.

Wah so last time spm so high keras can get u a seat in uni? Times have changed ...
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Our Malaysian education was highly regarded in the past. ASEAN scholars from Malaysia studying in Singapore were feared for their superior mathematics and science understanding. And I found that my education foundation in Malaysia was instrumental in helping me excel in my medical studies in Australia.

I don’t know what the situation is like today but back then, we wore the fact that we were Malaysian educated in the Malaysian school system like it was a badge of pride.
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QUOTE(Lord Tiki Mick @ Aug 21 2020, 12:45 PM)
So more Chinese school graduates can speak English compared to national schools?
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yes in a way...very literal way. the memorizing method used in chinese school works... up to the point they converse. my experience talking to chinese school educated ppl, the one word i can put to it is literal. they don't understand the side meaning, puns, jokes, references ... nothing. so when conversing with them dont use fancy english, drop the bombastic words, go simple and the conversation will work.
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QUOTE(Lord Tiki Mick @ Aug 21 2020, 12:45 PM)
So more Chinese school graduates can speak English compared to national schools?
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As a proportion of total student population? Measured by vocabulary? Probably

In fact it's quite likely more SJKC school graduates know more chinese words than SK school graduates know BM words, simply due to the stress placed on vocabulary by the SJKC system

Note that I'm not extolling the complete mastery of a language by the SJKC system. For example one clear area they fail is in grammar, because the typical SJKC grad applies that big vocabulary in Chinese syntax, which is how we get the majority of Manglish and Singlish

I'm just saying that memorisation is the first step of learning, and that the SK system already fails at this first point whereas the SJKC system doesn't.

From there you can infer for yourself how effective our national education is.
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Haha lelaki bodoh Tak boleh answer 😅
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their alphabet are different than us (hanguk-eo)..since we are more to bahasa malaysia which same with english (lingua franca) alphabet
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QUOTE(sk1l @ Aug 21 2020, 12:57 PM)
yes in a way...very literal way. the memorizing method used in chinese school works... up to the point they converse. my experience talking to chinese school educated ppl, the one word i can put to it is literal. they don't understand the side meaning, puns, jokes, references ... nothing. so when conversing with them dont use fancy english, drop the bombastic words, go simple and the conversation will work.
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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Aug 21 2020, 01:01 PM)
As a proportion of total student population? Measured by vocabulary? Probably

In fact it's quite likely more SJKC school graduates know more chinese words than SK school graduates know BM words, simply due to the stress placed on vocabulary by the SJKC system

Note that I'm not extolling the complete mastery of a language by the SJKC system. For example one clear area they fail is in grammar, because the typical SJKC grad applies that big vocabulary in Chinese syntax, which is how we get the majority of Manglish and Singlish

I'm just saying that memorisation is the first step of learning, and that the SK system already fails at this first point whereas the SJKC system doesn't.

From there you can infer for yourself how effective our national education is.
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You can't say SK fails when most Malaysian can understands English and can speak English although most of them broken.
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Easier test mean more meresian can become fresh grad, mean more meresian can become 20k tard, goodking ekonomy
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u see them speak english you go wo pu chu tao ah
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IMO, it's not that it has no standard, it feels like the exam board here treats English as a language rather than a subject. And, it seems like the Korean exam board treats it as a subject...
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post Aug 21 2020, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(UrbanGraduate @ Aug 21 2020, 03:21 AM)
how many koreans can speak English again?
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Many can speak, like japanese

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