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ben3003
post Nov 3 2021, 08:46 AM

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QUOTE(Eithanius @ Nov 2 2021, 12:22 PM)
Now that is disappointing...

Less than 4 grand difference but no options for existing V spec owners to retrofit...
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standard one lo.. since when malaysia dealers will do retrofit to new accessories lol. Never saw in my life.

But i see now the new V sensing spec macam more worth the money edi. but honda city still using lever type handbrake ka?
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post Nov 3 2021, 08:47 AM

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QUOTE(Eithanius @ Nov 2 2021, 12:22 PM)
Now that is disappointing...

Less than 4 grand difference but no options for existing V spec owners to retrofit...
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standard one lo.. since when malaysia dealers will do retrofit to new accessories lol. Never saw in my life.

But i see now the new V sensing spec macam more worth the money edi. but honda city still using lever type handbrake ka?
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post Nov 7 2021, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(PoisonSoul @ Nov 7 2021, 03:11 PM)
For the RON97, nah. it wont clean it off but it will just create lesser carbon residue only compared to RON95 but it's just very very minor difference only. Pump whichever RON you like/can afford.

Try to tally up the price to as close as the price stated by HM maintenance list. Let's say for the next service, HM stated it's RM400, then make sure your final amount do not deviate more than + or - RM50 or so.
If you really want to know which are needed and which are not, you have to join some FB Honda *insert car model name* groups and slowly learn/gather data from the people that posts similar questions as you. Members will reply and tell which are needed and which are not. Slowly, you'll know which are needed and which are "scams" by SC.

Honestly, I'm in one of the groups and I saw that for a service of only RM300+-, the SC managed to get the owner to spend up till RM800++ by adding tons of unnecessary stuffs into the bill.
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actually carbon residue ron95 and ron97 already same cos already euro4m now nationwide.
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post Dec 7 2021, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(PoisonSoul @ Dec 7 2021, 11:45 AM)


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S -> RM75, 670
E -> RM83 ,080
V -> RM87, 860
RS -> TBD early 2022. Lol they going the same pathway as the City sedan RS. Why delay? LOL
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cos RS production slow. Need give way for current first.
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post Jun 27 2022, 10:19 AM

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guys, wanna ask after few months already driving for this new eHEv engine, any honest comment ka? Cos i thinking to get either RS or V new HRV, but think if macam got long distance, how is the RV engine, enuf power when over take or not those. and the fuel consumption really alot diff compare normal. cos HR-V V spec is 1.5T engine, seems very powerful for the car at that size.
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post Jun 27 2022, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(lyrilmaki @ Jun 27 2022, 10:38 AM)
Nice driving experience, smooth, instant throttle response.

Very bad if you always going thru road with many bumps, the recharging engine noise is very loud and weird. or (low-speed)

It will heavily affect the 253nm torque when ur battery required charging. (it is automatic @ 2nd bar level)

70% OKR & 30% highway got me 23km/l fc, full tank can get around 830km.
On highway speeding @ 130km/h only can get 17-19km/l, if you stay around 110km/h still possible to get 20-21km/l
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OKR is city driving? Normally drive also inside town only my place small town. So is like extra 1 tank saving compare normal. U mean if drive low speed or like go thru speed bump u need slow and accelerate, the car engine will noisy?
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post Jun 30 2022, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(lyrilmaki @ Jun 28 2022, 02:40 PM)
Slow speed will keep using electric only, and the battery drain fast, and charge fast as well. If you plan to drive in city, not really jam.

Less smooth highway, RS battery charging will be a lot, and quite noisy. Usually when you go above 60km/h the charging sounds different, and not rough

Try and test drive the RS, don't go fast, keep go slow only. You will know what is the rough charging sound is about.
It feels like diesel lorry in idle, and very loud if you listen from outside.

But I am okay with it, but I hope the sound proofing can be a lot better, to reduce charging noise
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ok thanks for the info. no chance to test drive, just bite the bullet and booked HR-V RS lol. saw UK spec is abit higher and bigger batt for HR-V, hopefully doesnt disappoint. I saw driving experience, alot say drive like an EV. Also wanna ask, if highway cruising 100-110km/h, got enuf power if wan overtake ka?
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post Jun 30 2022, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(lyrilmaki @ Jun 30 2022, 11:35 AM)
for City not enough power la.. Feels like Myvi acceleration after 110 above.

HR-V could be faster, as the engine PS is 12x, 20PS higher than City. I have thought to get Civic e:HEV after it officially launch tho,
e:HEV feels good when you drive with 2 people in car, if added 2 more people at the back. It actually not feeling good.

Yes the driving experience definitely better than normal car, but when it comes to power (above 100) meh..

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I have to mention this first, people buy e:HEV not for it's power, or acceleration.
It's main job to do is to save fuel.

I now forgot to visit petrol station, as I only refuel once a month, or once every 3 weeks.

1 Full tank 35l / RM70 last me around 820km
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I see, yeah ppl buy RS for the hybrid tech, not for power. But then not cheap wei lol RS spec so high. If above 120km/h is always on hybrid? Will the electric motor eventually ran out of juice ka?
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post Jun 30 2022, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(lyrilmaki @ Jun 30 2022, 02:19 PM)
The battery will never run out of juice, it will always be in re-charging mode when at lowest 2nd bar level or 20%
The engine can push your car forward and at the same time charge ur EV juice

110km/h depend on road condition, if downhill or flat, it can run on EV, once u give more power it will use engine

Below around 40-60 only will use EV, any speed above that, using the engine to maintain/run will be more fuel-efficient than using EV
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i see. if normal recharging mode, the engine noise very loud ka? i think loud or not loud, the 1.5T should be even more loud if pedal to metal i believe. Saw most review say is like the car engine noise does not correlate with the speed u drive. I guess it might get some time to get used to it.

how would u rate this e:HEV car then? u feel positive or u have some buyer remorse on it, honestly haha.

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post Jun 30 2022, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(lyrilmaki @ Jun 30 2022, 02:47 PM)
It is loud when 0-30km/h and battery require semi charge and semi push, louder than normal engine acceleration, even louder than MYVI @ 3000 RPM?
Low speed it still force the to use the EV, but the EV does not have enough juice, so the engine instant charge the EV and EV direct output again.
I would say it maybe look like the pasar malam electric generator that kind of noise, but 30% less quiet than that, but still very loud.

The charging noise are different when you're above 60km/h, you know it is charging, but the noise is a lot quieter than low speed.

If I say what I hate the most, was the charging noise at low speed, or idle.
It suppose to be an EV like car, I could amaze others when I start engine and 0 noise.
But it always start the charging immediately, maybe it is due to cold boot.

Driving experience is great, the instant no delay acceleration at traffic light is madness, and very great for traffic jam.

I didn't go rage anymore after sitting in eHEV, compared to myvi. It is comfortable.

Quiet and 0 vibration, pretty good NVH, just listen to music and jam.

I would say it is a different experience than petrol engine.

And you get to enjoy the e-Pedal braking when you let go the acceleration pedal.
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okies thanks for the feedback. u say loud is like inside cabin also very loud? lol. how about vibration wise? i think if engine noise is still okayish if there is no much vibration. And also the start stop of the engine to charge battery, u will feel got jerk or wat ka? Cos i know previous honda civic hybrid older one, when at traffic light stop the car, then u lift brake pedal the engine restart back that jerk, sibeh annoying. Even bmw 5 series this function also very jialat can feel the jerk when engine restart. e-Pedal braking means don need press brake it sort of use engine to brake right? yeah my driving style i also prefer to lift of pedal and let car cruise abit to stop, instead of 100km/h hard brake to stop, probably gonna appreciate this regenerative braking thingy.

I also wan ask about the honda sensing, if traffic jam also can use one? it will auto stop car then auto follow back ka? i think x50 is can auto follow bak la.. not sure honda sensing.

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post Jun 30 2022, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(lyrilmaki @ Jun 30 2022, 03:18 PM)
no vibration no jerk at all
just feel acceleration very sluggish when the battery is charging / not enough juice
City just semi Sensing, not full spec. Only can follow after 70km/h, I have not tested the full Honda Sensing
Only available to Civic, not sure about HRV
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ah ok good no vibration no jerk, at least this part is well done, cos i cannot tahan can feel those jerk sometimes. i tot if need more power the engine direct drive the generator to provide output to motor lol.

i see, i see the ads say HR-V honda sensing is most complete ever lol. Lets see what they offer. thanks for alot of input, sorry offtopic about HRV at here but i think tis is the only place can ask about haha.

It seems like alot UK review complain about i-mmd the engine noise when pedal hard.. hmmm

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post Sep 15 2022, 03:20 PM

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Anyone driving rs version hybrid, can share experience like if the immd is suitable for jam condition or not. Will the FC almost same like normal petrol?
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post Sep 16 2022, 07:38 AM

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QUOTE(limkj @ Sep 15 2022, 08:56 PM)
I’ve been driving the RS version for a year. Average fuel consumption is 20.5 - 22 KM/L. This is for town driving with jams.  Definitely better than normal petrol Version.
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Ah okies, if jam also got 20+ is already very good. Thanks for the input. If during jam, the engine will always kicks in to charge the batt? And when it does, is it very noisy or is normal humming?
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post Oct 18 2022, 03:16 PM

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Just a quick question on city rs ehev. If let say driving at cruising speed >100km/h, which should be 100% engine drive. then suddenly u wan overtake, the electric motor will come in as assist, or switch to electric motor propulsion and engine is just charging the battery and power the generator? Cant find such scenario explained by honda anywhere..
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post Oct 26 2022, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(jackyfc @ Oct 26 2022, 11:14 AM)
Seeing some  youtube review, even at high speed (more than 100kmph), when you tekan kuat minyak, the motor will still contribute and work  in hybrid mode. I guess the full engine mode work when you are at high speed stable cruising..when you need more power, the motor will still kick in.
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seems like it. whenever u need power, the engine will use to power the generator then motor will drive. but the problem is the HP for the motor is low, so at higher speed it will reluctant to go up, but that is like 120-140km/h.. if drive around 110-120 cruising i see ok la.

i think those with RS can easily see from the power distribution..

 

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