snowmei`s skilless gallery, After A Very Long Rest
snowmei`s skilless gallery, After A Very Long Rest
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Aug 14 2007, 05:59 PM
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1,573 posts Joined: Oct 2004 From: Slave in Seremban... |
Time to get an external flash liao.
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Aug 14 2007, 07:20 PM
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632 posts Joined: Feb 2006 |
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Aug 14 2007, 07:26 PM
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295 posts Joined: Apr 2006 |
do more thinking mate, u'll get the solution... Don't just rely on ur camera functions to do the 'magic', or ask around too much.. Nothing wrong with those 2, but the most important thing is ur brain... USE IT...
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Aug 14 2007, 08:22 PM
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239 posts Joined: Oct 2006 |
QUOTE(snowmei @ Aug 14 2007, 05:43 PM) thanks for the comment... You use spot metering or matrix ? Must use spot matering.i got try ISO 800... but seems like useless as i am using internal flash... the girls overexpose like hell even i put flash -2.... i also try to raise up the shutter speed till max 1/250 aperture f/8 but i get the result same as what i posted up......... the background underexpose or the girls overexpose.... anyone can tell me how to solve this? so that next event i can try out on that... Even with internal flash also have TTL function right ? It should work. Unless your focus point is not on you subject but at darker background. So it intepret that need more flash. That's why overexpose on the model. |
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Aug 14 2007, 08:40 PM
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QUOTE(diwant @ Aug 14 2007, 07:26 PM) do more thinking mate, u'll get the solution... Don't just rely on ur camera functions to do the 'magic', or ask around too much.. Nothing wrong with those 2, but the most important thing is ur brain... USE IT... most of the time i will try different settings and different shooting modes and select the best one to shoot an event..that day so hard to scout lights at some place... especially without wide aperture... no choice had to use flash...... QUOTE(aaltong @ Aug 14 2007, 08:22 PM) You use spot metering or matrix ? Must use spot matering. MAPA fair.. i use manual mode with center weight metering...Even with internal flash also have TTL function right ? It should work. Unless your focus point is not on you subject but at darker background. So it intepret that need more flash. That's why overexpose on the model. if i use Av mode.. the shutter speed can go as slow as 1/5.... sure handshake....... Tv mode.. i didn`t use that much....... i more concern on the subject exposure than the background as i know my flash won`t reach the background..... |
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Aug 14 2007, 09:29 PM
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7,529 posts Joined: Jan 2003 |
Apart from that, if you think the subject is too bright with popup flash, you can change your FEC ma.. maybe stop down 1 stop
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Aug 14 2007, 09:43 PM
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632 posts Joined: Feb 2006 |
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Aug 15 2007, 09:49 AM
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239 posts Joined: Oct 2006 |
QUOTE(snowmei @ Aug 14 2007, 08:40 PM) i more concern on the subject exposure than the background as i know my flash won`t reach the background..... That is why i ask you to meter the background. Use manual mode and set the aparture and shutter speed.The lock focus on subject (spot metering), and let your camera judge how much flash required. If subject is very close to you, your flash must -1 or -2 stop. |
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Aug 15 2007, 10:10 AM
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3,758 posts Joined: Apr 2006 From: Selayang |
Too many things to do (for a newbie) in events like these dun u think so? By the time they're done, the girls already gone for lunch/dinner and back already
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Aug 15 2007, 10:30 AM
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21,256 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Pekopon |
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Aug 15 2007, 11:10 AM
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239 posts Joined: Oct 2006 |
QUOTE(ac98 @ Aug 15 2007, 10:10 AM) Too many things to do (for a newbie) in events like these dun u think so? By the time they're done, the girls already gone for lunch/dinner and back already if want to improve have to learn mah. Don't really like to hear people say that this is what they can get with their "lausy" equipment. Well, if they know the technique, P&S camera with manual mode can get as good as these if not better leh. |
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Aug 15 2007, 01:03 PM
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3,758 posts Joined: Apr 2006 From: Selayang |
You know what's the KEYWORD for many newbie digital photographers today? It's "LAZY" : lazy to learn, lazy to anticipate and lazy to experiment. There are so many things we need to do during our film time : You have to shoot, anticipate the results, spend money buying film and spend money developing, spend money printing pics for girls and yourself. Nowadays, newbies want their butt scratched, back rubbed and well spoonfed. When they are good enough, they want their shoes polished also ... there are actually forums for people just like that, hahaha!!
Over here we learn and learn and learn, if you can't catch up, give up. That's all they can do nowadays. Pity them spent thousands of hard-earned Ringgit, or worst off, parents' Ringgit. |
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Aug 15 2007, 01:27 PM
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632 posts Joined: Feb 2006 |
lao ye..
suddenly here become war zone..... i did meter the background at first... but the shutter speed really ridiculous for a newbie like me to hold it steady.... not mistaken is 0"3, 0"5 appear at my camera.... |
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Aug 15 2007, 01:35 PM
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21,256 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Pekopon |
thats y u need larger aperture lens
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Aug 15 2007, 01:45 PM
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3,114 posts Joined: Dec 2006 |
lao eh...ac98... you learning photography time using film kah?sure had to fork out a lot of money...salute to you...
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Aug 15 2007, 02:30 PM
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QUOTE(snowmei @ Aug 15 2007, 01:27 PM) lao ye.. hai yoh.. i think you didn't really raed what i wrote lar. suddenly here become war zone..... i did meter the background at first... but the shutter speed really ridiculous for a newbie like me to hold it steady.... not mistaken is 0"3, 0"5 appear at my camera.... increase ISO lar. canon very good in noise control. no worry to increase ISO. Added on August 15, 2007, 2:31 pm QUOTE(ac98 @ Aug 15 2007, 01:03 PM) You know what's the KEYWORD for many newbie digital photographers today? It's "LAZY" : lazy to learn, lazy to anticipate and lazy to experiment. There are so many things we need to do during our film time : You have to shoot, anticipate the results, spend money buying film and spend money developing, spend money printing pics for girls and yourself. Nowadays, newbies want their butt scratched, back rubbed and well spoonfed. When they are good enough, they want their shoes polished also ... there are actually forums for people just like that, hahaha!! yeah... i think you are right there.Over here we learn and learn and learn, if you can't catch up, give up. That's all they can do nowadays. Pity them spent thousands of hard-earned Ringgit, or worst off, parents' Ringgit. This post has been edited by aaltong: Aug 15 2007, 02:31 PM |
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Aug 15 2007, 04:58 PM
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QUOTE(aaltong @ Aug 15 2007, 02:30 PM) hai yoh.. i think you didn't really raed what i wrote lar. ya... i know the ISO thingy..increase ISO lar. canon very good in noise control. no worry to increase ISO. Added on August 15, 2007, 2:31 pm yeah... i think you are right there. i did increase till ISO 800.. i get 1/5... i dare not go over it as it become grainy... |
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Aug 15 2007, 04:59 PM
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743 posts Joined: Jun 2005 From: Penang |
how grainy will it become?
as long as it is not blur u can always use noise ninja n neat image to remove the noise? |
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Aug 15 2007, 05:29 PM
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3,758 posts Joined: Apr 2006 From: Selayang |
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Aug 15 2007, 06:54 PM
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