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post Aug 3 2020, 09:41 AM, updated 2y ago

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post Aug 3 2020, 09:42 AM

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https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/coliving-millennials

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A closer look at co-living
Racheal Lee

The Edge Malaysia

July 22, 2020 18:00 pm +08
This article first appeared in City & Country, The Edge Malaysia Weekly, on July 13, 2020 - July 19, 2020.

Room rates at Komune Living start from RM1,900 a month (Photo by UOA Hospitality)


Co-working and co-living are the rage in Malaysia, even though there are no clear laws or regulations on properties offering such concepts. While co-working spaces are mushrooming in the country, there are also more properties that offer both co-working and co-living under one roof.

What if these co-living units are available for sale? Are they any different from buying a small office/home office (SoHo)? What is the catch and what should buyers beware of?

Chur Associates founder and managing partner Chris Tan says the legal definition of “housing accommodation” is wide enough to cover premises meant partly for human habitation and partly for business.



Co-living units versus SoHos

Tan cites Section 2 of the Housing Development (Control and Licensing) (Amendment) Act 2012 (HDAA), which states that “housing accommodation” includes any building, tenement or messuage which is wholly or principally constructed, adapted or intended for human habitation or partly for human habitation and partly for business premises and such other type of accommodation as may be prescribed by the minister from time to time to be a housing accommodation pursuant to section 3A”.

“If a developer is selling a project for the purposes of co-living, such units should be governed by the HDA [Housing Development (Control and Licensing) Act 1966]. Nevertheless, the current lifestyle is such that the office will be equipped with a bathroom as well as a nap room. Units equipped with such facilities per se do not make them HDA property,” he explains.

Veena Loh, JLL Malaysia director, research and consultancy, notes that if a developer were to sell co-living units, these units will not be considered as SoHos, and therefore, they do not fall under the HDA.

The biggest difference between a SoHo and a co-living/co-working development, she says, is that the co-living/co-working space is run by an operator whereas there is no operator in a SoHo development.

“A SoHo unit is normally occupied and used by the unit owner or tenanted out for either residential or office use or both. It can be compared with a shophouse that allows the tenant (and his family) to work on the ground floor in the day and retire to their house upstairs at night — except that SoHos are mass-built into a serviced apartment,” she explains.

“A co-living development is targeted at a cluster of people (usually working millennials or expatriates) who share similar interests and enjoy communal activities as well as services provided by an operator. They can also include medical tourists and their families or relatives, travellers and students. Those who would consider staying in hotels or a serviced apartment may choose co-living instead. Today, most of the co-living/co-working developments are owned and run by a single operator.”

Both Tan and Loh expect more co-living and co-working developments to enter the market in the near future as more people are going into entrepreneurship. Tan notes that new entrepreneurs are very cost-conscious and flexible, reacting quickly to the dynamism of a fast-changing marketplace that does not require the traditional business space.


Loh concurs, adding that investment in traditional asset classes, such as offices, residential properties and retail malls, has been challenging for several reasons, including the supply concern, especially in Greater Kuala Lumpur.

She explains that the co-living/co-working concept has evolved from its initial purpose of offering opportunities for people in small start-ups who prefer a workplace close to their residence and business entrepreneurs looking for temporary premises before moving to a proper office building.

If co-living units are available for sale, Loh reminds buyers to undertake due diligence as these units do not come under the HDA. In addition, a co-living unit may not be the most suitable property to live in permanently as one’s needs change with age and a large family may wish to have their own activities and privacy.

“However, co-living could catch on as family size is decreasing now. It is also safer to live with more people than on one’s own and costs for cooking and transport can be shared. Small families or singles who are lonely may find that co-living is a solution to the empty-nest syndrome. This may have to be weighed against new tenants, who could also be a potential security risk,” she adds.

“Developers may offer a guaranteed yield upon the first few years of purchase to make the development more attractive. This may open a new investment opportunity and attract more buyers to purchase co-living units. Investors should carefully study the potential return on the development in the longer run, upon the expiry of the yield guarantee period.”

To understand the potential return outlook, other factors buyers should look into include the location of the development, potential size of the target market and demand drivers of the units. The need to observe rules and the lack of privacy due to space sharing should also be taken into consideration.

Nithi Maniam leased a unit at Tan & Tan Developments Bhd’s Co-Living @ Damai Residence in Ampang.

“I chose to stay in a co-living space due to the short-term lease, with the utilities and fit-outs included. There are also facilities such as gymnasium and common areas, but what really makes it different, compared with a condominium, is its community element,” he says.

Meanwhile, Alicja likes the concept of community living in a co-living space, which provides facilities and organises activities. Housekeeping services are also provided twice a week.

She stayed at Komune Living for several months while looking for a place somewhere close to Bangsar South, as her husband’s office is located there.

“We like that we are not merely confined to our rooms. It is different from staying in a hotel or apartment because the co-living facilities on Levels 1 and 29 are so useful and provide us with lots of space to relax and hang out. It is also great for my husband and me that we are able to spend our leisure time doing what we like individually with the different facilities and activities available,” she says.

“Also, I enjoy cooking with some of the other guests in the community kitchen. We exchange recipes with one another and even try each other’s dishes. It is quite fun being part of that.”
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Co living is same as few occupants occupying each room in a house.

Same concept different wording.
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post Aug 3 2020, 10:16 AM

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There is already such a thing long long ago.. It is called a hostel
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post Aug 3 2020, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Aug 3 2020, 10:13 AM)
Co living is same as few occupants occupying each room in a house.

Same concept different wording.
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QUOTE(cy91 @ Aug 3 2020, 10:16 AM)
There is already such a thing long long ago.. It is called a hostel
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It is not new per se.

It is just a new approach, kind of like Grab/Uber with taxi

I brought this topic up since it solves two problems at one go (2 birds with 1 stone), : property overhang and affordable living

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nothing new, just a marketing gimmick
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Aug 3 2020, 10:33 AM)
It is not new per se.

It is just a new approach, kind of like Grab/Uber with taxi

I brought this topic up since it solves two problems at one go (2 birds with 1 stone), : property overhang and affordable living
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How does co living helps property overhang ? Less people will be buying ...no ?

Affordable living ...yes.

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Its just jazzing up the concept in which you rent out separate rooms. But this time more emphasis is placed on the shared space, i.e. the kitchen, living room etc.
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Its just jazzing up the concept in which you rent out separate rooms. But this time more emphasis is placed on the shared space, i.e. the kitchen, living room etc.
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Might as well u create a company, lease every whole unit there is available to rent, then partition and rent it out again by room hmm.gif
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Might as well u create a company, lease every whole unit there is available to rent, then partition and rent it out again by room  hmm.gif
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Isn't that what some of these people are doing?
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Well, either that or purchase something like the D'immersione project and call it "co-living" under 1 unit.
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Well, either that or purchase something like the D'immersione project and call it "co-living" under 1 unit.
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Some shoplots near to UTAR even better.. Partition the upper floor shoplot into 10 rooms #co-living space
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QUOTE(cy91 @ Aug 3 2020, 12:41 PM)
Some shoplots near to UTAR even better.. Partition the upper floor shoplot into 10 rooms #co-living space
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Some uncles and aunties go as far as to turn a house into a makeshift student hostel by partitioning many rooms into it. I recall it's able to house 10 or more students due to that arrangement.

My sis stayed in such an arrangement before during her uni days. Really cramped having to share a king-sized bed with 2 of her friends in one room.

I have a feeling that this 'co-living' will just be another 'passing' fad. Old wine in a new bottle.

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Silicon Valley thinks it invented roommates. They call it 'co-living'

Just another SV bullshit.
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QUOTE(digitalz @ Aug 3 2020, 12:33 PM)
Well, either that or purchase something like the D'immersione project and call it "co-living" under 1 unit.
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Good lord, imagine paying rm 1500 rent for a 300 sqf "smart" ensuite and call it a studio.

The "smart living" thing can be replicated easily.

IOT is not something new.
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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Aug 3 2020, 10:37 AM)
How does co living helps property overhang ? Less people will be buying ...no ?

Affordable living ...yes.
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https://www.propertyguru.com.my/property-ne...-into-co-living

As pointed out by this article, some of the over supplied office building can potentially be converted to co living space
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Nonsense concept just renting a house with a few friends

Just living the college days will only work single younger 20s generation

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